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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 11 2008, 06:55 PM (263 Views) | |
| YankeeBaseball | Jun 11 2008, 06:55 PM Post #1 |
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The Yankees are aggressively shopping right-hander LaTroy Hawkins, two rival executives say, intending to clear a spot for a reliever who currently is at Class AAA. Righty J.B. Cox, who missed all of last season after undergoing elbow-ligament transplant surgery, is one candidate; he began the season at Class A, but has since moved to AAA, where he has allowed one run in 12 1/3 innings. Righty David Robertson, who began the season at AA, also has been impressive at AAA. Hawkins, signed to a one-year, $3.75 million free-agent contract, has a 6.08 ERA in 22 appearances . . . fox :peace: :rock: |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 11 2008, 07:13 PM Post #2 |
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Unfortunately Cox just went on Scranton's DL. I'm not sure what the injury is, but the good news is that it's just a 7-day DL down there. It's nice to see they're thinking of getting rid of Hawkins though. |
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| KOCUR | Jun 11 2008, 08:48 PM Post #3 |
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Lets make this simple...Give him away - to whoever wants him....we didn't trade for him - so don't be stupid and want something back for sh*t on a shingle..... |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 11 2008, 08:51 PM Post #4 |
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Merged |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jun 12 2008, 07:21 AM Post #5 |
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Agreed. Get him the feck outta town and bring up one of our Prospects. Cashman shoulda known better. Hawkins has the worst record at YankeeStadium in history! :wall: So we bring him here??? :wtf: And before homie comes back at me with who would you have wanted instead, any of our prospects would have yielded as good or better and saved the 3.something millions....... plus by trying prospects, we likely find a gem. :peace: |
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| HomieYank | Jun 12 2008, 02:57 PM Post #6 |
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Dude I totally agree with you. Thats what I wanted them to do from the beginning. I wanted Veras getting the job instead of him. Cash was basically trying to luck out and get a draft pick out of Hawkins. And to be fair, about the Yankee Stadium thing. He's been much better at Yankee Stadium then on the road. He's only given up runs in one of his appearances at Yankee stadium, and it was April 4th. Other than that day his home era is 0 |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 12 2008, 03:01 PM Post #7 |
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A small little factor is no longer a factor in terms of the Yankee Stadium thing: he no longer faces the Yankees! |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:04 PM Post #8 |
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Hawkins has always sucked |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 12 2008, 03:07 PM Post #9 |
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Oh absolutely, but the Yankee Stadium stat was a skewed stat since he was facing great Yankees lineups. He's definitely sucked for a very long time. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 03:07 PM Post #10 |
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No matter how bad he's been, I really can't complain since his contract is only for one year. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:08 PM Post #11 |
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Cox is out for 3 weeks so maybe we'll see Melancon soon. |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 12 2008, 03:09 PM Post #12 |
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Yeah, anything for more than one year, and I would have been furious. I didn't think it hurt to give the guy a chance with a one year deal to replace Vizcaino. If he didn't work out, he'd be gone, and it looks like that will happen. It wasn't terrible to go with three veterans, albeit two sucky ones, in the pen along with the kids. Now it's time to hand the keys completely over to the kids, sans Mo. I'd like to see Melancon, MM. |
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| HomieYank | Jun 12 2008, 03:14 PM Post #13 |
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3 weeks? Damn! Whats the injury? It will be Robertson before Melancon. They are still having Melancon throw 2-3 innings at a time to build up his arm strength. He's thrown 47 innings already. I'm not sure we'll see him this year. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 03:14 PM Post #14 |
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Right shoulder tendinitis |
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| Grandy4MVP | Jun 12 2008, 03:34 PM Post #15 |
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Any move to get rid of Hawkins is a good one, he's just god awful! |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:39 PM Post #16 |
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Bullshit...a 1 year deal doesn't make it "not a bad deal". It was a horrible deal. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 03:41 PM Post #17 |
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It was worth a shot at the price and at that length. If he gave us something, it would have been a bonus. While he's been terrible, he's been taken out of high-leverage situations and will soon be moved out of town - partly because his contract is cheap in comparison to other relievers. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:43 PM Post #18 |
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No it wasn't because we already knew he sucked. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 03:45 PM Post #19 |
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Did you want Linebrink or Mahay for a ridiculous amount of money? |
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| HomieYank | Jun 12 2008, 03:46 PM Post #20 |
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He was very good last year with Colorado. He was basically a hope to get lucky type signing. An extra arm for the pen with the chance of ending up more. It would have been better to just go with youth, but the way the young guys are getting hurt this would have been a good signing if it worked out. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:47 PM Post #21 |
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We've seen his long term track record. That speaks volumes. And he's not a strikeout pitcher. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:48 PM Post #22 |
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I would have given Linebrink 3 years, though he was overpaid....especially in light of Farnsworthless. I wanted no part of Mahay. |
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| HomieYank | Jun 12 2008, 03:49 PM Post #23 |
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Didn't Chicago give up a draft pick for Linebrink? |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 03:49 PM Post #24 |
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And what if Linebrink was awful here? We'd still be stuck with him for another 2+ years. Hawkins will be moved. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jun 12 2008, 03:59 PM Post #25 |
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Linebrink has had a lot more success, but I wouldn't have gone after him any way with the money he wanted. That was just in response to your question. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 04:03 PM Post #26 |
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I understand. I didn't have high expectations for Hawkins at all - and it's not a shock that he's been terrible - so I'm not trying to defend him by any means. If he could have replicated what he did for Colorado last year, it would have been great, but he simply just hasn't worked out. I feel that they needed a veteran presence in the bullpen, so for one year and $3.75 million, it was worth the gamble. |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 12 2008, 04:07 PM Post #27 |
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I would like to agree with that statement, Giambi_MVP_25. He as been a disappointment has a member of this bullpen. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Jun 12 2008, 04:08 PM Post #28 |
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:laugh: How are we doing has of 66 games? |
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| HomieYank | Jun 12 2008, 04:15 PM Post #29 |
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Wait a minute MM. If you do a realistic NL to AL conversion then Hawkins has been better than Scott Proctor this year. Doesn't this conflict with your theory that Scott Proctor had such great trade value last year. Proctor isn't a strikeout pitcher either. |
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| Mattingly23 | Jun 12 2008, 04:20 PM Post #30 |
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We could really equate him to Morgan Ensberg too. It was worth a shot, it didn't work out, and he's gone. Looking past his big year a few seasons ago, he has sucked of late. It was a low risk signing. |
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