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Topic Started: Jun 11 2008, 02:53 PM (604 Views)
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Jun 12 2008, 04:20 PM
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.
Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP (100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.
Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP ( 100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.
:please:
You just hate white people.
This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:27 PM
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.
Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP ( 100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi. :please: You just hate white people. This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.
KILL WHITEYY!!!!!!!!!!!
I actually agree with you about Hamilton's staying power. This debate started when I said right now bradley is the most productive position player in the AL.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?
:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
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Jun 12 2008, 04:39 PM
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.
Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP ( 100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi. :please: You just hate white people. This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.
I think you're on too something..or he only likes half whiteys..that's why he loves rob :hug:
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
He's going to get the Jimmy Legs.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:58 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
Stop. The point is Bradley and Hamilton both DWARF Manny this year and you know it. Honestly what was the point of bringing up Manny?
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I think you're on too something..or he only likes half whiteys..that's why he loves rob well I do heart Rob :think:
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Jun 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
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Jun 12 2008, 05:08 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48
Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42
OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950
How's that dwarfing? :please:
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48 Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42 OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950 How's that dwarfing? :please:
OBP: .454 to .390 SLG: .629 to .551 2B: 20 to 14 XBH: 35 to 30 BB: 45 to 30
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Jun 12 2008, 05:54 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48 Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42 OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950 How's that dwarfing? :please:
OBP: .454 to .390 SLG: .629 to .551 2B: 20 to 14 XBH: 35 to 30 BB: 45 to 30
That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.
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Jun 12 2008, 06:31 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48 Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42 OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950 How's that dwarfing? :please:
OBP: .454 to .390 SLG: .629 to .551 2B: 20 to 14 XBH: 35 to 30 BB: 45 to 30
That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.
who would get your vote?
The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.
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You failed to mention
Ramirez .322 RISP Bradley .265 RISP
Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48 Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42 OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950 How's that dwarfing? :please:
OBP: .454 to .390 SLG: .629 to .551 2B: 20 to 14 XBH: 35 to 30 BB: 45 to 30
That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.
who would get your vote? The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.
My vote for what? Who's the better player? Who has been the better player the 1st 60 games of this season? Who will have better numbers at the end of the year?
If you're asking who's been better the 1st 1/3 of the year, then it's Bradley. But Manny obviously dwarfs him over his career. And at the end of the season, there's a good chance Manny's numbers will in fact be dwarfing Bradley's, not the other way around.
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.
So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good? And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.
Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense? :laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
He's snorting it now.
We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
hahaha
Bradley .333-14-45 Ramirez .305-15-48 Runs Bradley 46 Ramirez 42 OPS Bradley 1.082 Ramirez .950 How's that dwarfing? :please:
OBP: .454 to .390 SLG: .629 to .551 2B: 20 to 14 XBH: 35 to 30 BB: 45 to 30
That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.
who would get your vote? The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.
My vote for what? Who's the better player? Who has been the better player the 1st 60 games of this season? Who will have better numbers at the end of the year? If you're asking who's been better the 1st 1/3 of the year, then it's Bradley. But Manny obviously dwarfs him over his career. And at the end of the season, there's a good chance Manny's numbers will in fact be dwarfing Bradley's, not the other way around.
I meant who had the better numbers over the first 1/3 of they year, and I agree with everything else you've said.
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You failed to mention
Ramirez .322 RISP Bradley .265 RISP
Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs
Close and Late Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS
As long as we're picking out random small samples...
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You failed to mention
Ramirez .322 RISP Bradley .265 RISP
Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs
Close and Late Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS As long as we're picking out random small samples...
RISP isn't random.
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But this is:
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You failed to mention
Ramirez .322 RISP Bradley .265 RISP
Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs
Close and Late Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS As long as we're picking out random small samples...
RISP isn't random.
Those ABs could be in situations that don't matter, and the sample is less than 50 ABs, and AB with runners in scoring position is really just a means of knocking in runs for your team, something Bradley thus far has done better in fewer ABs.
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