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Dodgers want veteran OFer; may be willing to deal youngsters
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Jun 12 2008, 03:13 PM
His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.

Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP (100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.

Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP (100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.

:please:

You just hate white people.

This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.
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His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.

Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP (100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.

:please:

You just hate white people.

This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.

KILL WHITEYY!!!!!!!!!!!

I actually agree with you about Hamilton's staying power. This debate started when I said right now bradley is the most productive position player in the AL.
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?
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Jun 12 2008, 03:13 PM
His OPS is still top-five, leads the league home runs, second in hits.

Right, and Bradley leads the league in OPS (a full 140 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in hitting(19 points higher than Hamilton), leads the league in OBP (100 points higher than hamilton), leads the league in SLG (45 points higher than hamilton), and is top 5 in home runs, runs, doubles, and walks, and 7th in rbi.

:please:

You just hate white people.

This really doesn't matter in the middle of June. I think Hamilton will have more staying power, however.

I think you're on too something..or he only likes half whiteys..that's why he loves rob :hug:
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

He's going to get the Jimmy Legs.
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

Stop. The point is Bradley and Hamilton both DWARF Manny this year and you know it. Honestly what was the point of bringing up Manny?


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I think you're on too something..or he only likes half whiteys..that's why he loves rob
well I do heart Rob :think:
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha
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Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:
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Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
Quote:
 
Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:

OBP: .454 to .390
SLG: .629 to .551
2B: 20 to 14
XBH: 35 to 30
BB: 45 to 30
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Jun 12 2008, 05:23 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:59 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 03:58 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:41 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
Mantlemurcer
Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:

OBP: .454 to .390
SLG: .629 to .551
2B: 20 to 14
XBH: 35 to 30
BB: 45 to 30

That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:

OBP: .454 to .390
SLG: .629 to .551
2B: 20 to 14
XBH: 35 to 30
BB: 45 to 30

That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.

who would get your vote?

The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.
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Ramirez .322 RISP
Bradley .265 RISP

Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs
Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs
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Jun 12 2008, 06:31 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:41 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:38 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 04:22 PM
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Jun 12 2008, 03:20 PM
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:

OBP: .454 to .390
SLG: .629 to .551
2B: 20 to 14
XBH: 35 to 30
BB: 45 to 30

That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.

who would get your vote?

The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.

My vote for what? Who's the better player? Who has been the better player the 1st 60 games of this season? Who will have better numbers at the end of the year?


If you're asking who's been better the 1st 1/3 of the year, then it's Bradley. But Manny obviously dwarfs him over his career. And at the end of the season, there's a good chance Manny's numbers will in fact be dwarfing Bradley's, not the other way around.
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Homie - Manny Ramirez? ok now you are just being ridiculous.


So .305/.561/950 with 15 HR 48 RBI, 42 runs, scored .322 RISP is no good?

And his numbers on the road are better than Fenway.

Who says its no good? A good season deserves the MVP over a great one now? How does that even begin to make sense?

:laugh: that's only a good season? WTF are you smoking..how many percocet have you taken?

He's snorting it now.

We can tie this into the whole discussion and suggest he meet with Josh Hamilton, so he could teach him how to freebase it.

hahaha

Bradley .333-14-45
Ramirez .305-15-48

Runs
Bradley 46
Ramirez 42

OPS
Bradley 1.082
Ramirez .950

How's that dwarfing? :please:

OBP: .454 to .390
SLG: .629 to .551
2B: 20 to 14
XBH: 35 to 30
BB: 45 to 30

That's not exactly "dwarfing" him. You are making it sound like MM's comparing Marlon Anderson to Albert Pujols.

who would get your vote?

The OBP and SLG are significantly in favor of Bradley.

My vote for what? Who's the better player? Who has been the better player the 1st 60 games of this season? Who will have better numbers at the end of the year?


If you're asking who's been better the 1st 1/3 of the year, then it's Bradley. But Manny obviously dwarfs him over his career. And at the end of the season, there's a good chance Manny's numbers will in fact be dwarfing Bradley's, not the other way around.

I meant who had the better numbers over the first 1/3 of they year, and I agree with everything else you've said.
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You failed to mention

Ramirez .322 RISP
Bradley .265 RISP

Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs
Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs


Close and Late
Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS
Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS

As long as we're picking out random small samples...
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Jun 12 2008, 06:55 PM
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You failed to mention

Ramirez .322 RISP
Bradley .265 RISP

Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs
Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs


Close and Late
Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS
Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS

As long as we're picking out random small samples...

RISP isn't random.
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But this is:

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But this is:

:kelso:

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You failed to mention

Ramirez .322 RISP
Bradley .265 RISP

Ramirez .259 RISP w/2 outs
Bradley .130 RISP w/ 2 outs


Close and Late
Bradley:348 BA, .500 OBP, .783 SLG, 1.283 OPS
Manny: .250 BA, .340 OBP, .523 SLG, .863 OPS

As long as we're picking out random small samples...

RISP isn't random.

Those ABs could be in situations that don't matter, and the sample is less than 50 ABs, and AB with runners in scoring position is really just a means of knocking in runs for your team, something Bradley thus far has done better in fewer ABs.
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But this is:

:kelso:

Not bad, but how about this....

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