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Melky + Gardner?
Topic Started: Jun 11 2008, 01:50 AM (264 Views)
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Melky vs RHP: .306 BA, .343 OBP, .435 SLG, 5HR
Gardner vs LHP: .348 BA, .436 OBP, ..606 SLG, 3HR

:think: :think: :think:

When Melky plays you have a fast-ass dude on the bench that plays a great CF
When Gardner plays you have a guy with a rocket arm on the bench that can play any OF position

You can rest Abreu more often because you can put Melky in RF
Shelly isn't pinch hitting for anyone anyway and he isn't even playing 1B against lefties anymore (Posada should be doing that, seriously)
No longer will Betemit be the Yankees fastest pinch runner (Yikes)

While your at it get Gonzalez up here for Moller.
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I like it....When Damon is gone I think Gardner will be his replacement...
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Jun 11 2008, 12:56 AM
I like it....When Damon is gone I think Gardner will be his replacement...

I think he's a 4th OFer type. He reminds me a lot of your boy Dave Roberts with better D. :rock:

When Damon leaves after 09 I think the Yankees are hoping Austin Jackson will be ready to take over.
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Jun 11 2008, 01:50 AM
Melky vs RHP: .306 BA, .343 OBP, .435 SLG, 5HR
Gardner vs LHP: .348 BA, .436 OBP, ..606 SLG, 3HR

:think: :think: :think:

When Melky plays you have a fast-ass dude on the bench that plays a great CF
When Gardner plays you have a guy with a rocket arm on the bench that can play any OF position

You can rest Abreu more often because you can put Melky in RF
Shelly isn't pinch hitting for anyone anyway and he isn't even playing 1B against lefties anymore (Posada should be doing that, seriously)
No longer will Betemit be the Yankees fastest pinch runner (Yikes)

While your at it get Gonzalez up here for Moller.

I agree 100%. Pretty much what I've been saying; bring up Gardner and Gonzalez. Good Job. :rock:
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Melky will be dealt
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Jun 11 2008, 08:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

Melky isn't going anywhere unless the Yankees need to include him in a MAJOR deal.
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Jun 11 2008, 08:46 PM
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Jun 11 2008, 08:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

Melky isn't going anywhere unless the Yankees need to include him in a MAJOR deal.

He will be dealt by the deadline for a pitcher or in the off season to make room for the CF we have in the minors....
Look for Melky to goto Pittsburgh.....
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Jun 11 2008, 07:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

I've always thought that too, but what's his value? Every team I could think of being interested has a similar player. Look at Pittsburgh...I wouldn't play Melky over Bay, McLouth, or Nady. Even Micheals is out hitting him.
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Jun 11 2008, 08:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

Melky isn't going anywhere unless the Yankees need to include him in a MAJOR deal.

I don't think it would take a major deal for Melky to get delt. With Gardner and Damon playing so well if the Yankees can upgrade the pen or rotation by trading Melky I think it will happen.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:06 PM
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Jun 11 2008, 07:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

I've always thought that too, but what's his value? Every team I could think of being interested has a similar player. Look at Pittsburgh...I wouldn't play Melky over Bay, McLouth, or Nady. Even Micheals is out hitting him.

That's why I say he will only be dealt in a MAJOR trade as part of a package. He is a "nice" player, but realistically...he's more valuable to the Yankees right now than any other team I can think of. He's pretty much a bench strengthener anywhere else but here right now.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:06 PM
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Jun 11 2008, 07:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

I've always thought that too, but what's his value? Every team I could think of being interested has a similar player. Look at Pittsburgh...I wouldn't play Melky over Bay, McLouth, or Nady. Even Micheals is out hitting him.

Yeah, this goes back to what I said in your thread about who you'd deal him for. I think he has the most value to the Yankees, whether it be as a regular or as a great 4th outfielder.
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Jun 11 2008, 08:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

Melky isn't going anywhere unless the Yankees need to include him in a MAJOR deal.

I don't think it would take a major deal for Melky to get delt. With Gardner and Damon playing so well if the Yankees can upgrade the pen or rotation by trading Melky I think it will happen.

He's not likely to fetch anything eye opening....or someone who can impact the pen in a positive way immediately....so I don't see that as good leverage of resources.
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Jun 11 2008, 07:44 PM
Melky will be dealt

I've always thought that too, but what's his value? Every team I could think of being interested has a similar player. Look at Pittsburgh...I wouldn't play Melky over Bay, McLouth, or Nady. Even Micheals is out hitting him.

That's why I say he will only be dealt in a MAJOR trade as part of a package. He is a "nice" player, but realistically...he's more valuable to the Yankees right now than any other team I can think of. He's pretty much a bench strengthener anywhere else but here right now.

Oh ok, I missunderrememberstood what you meant. I thought you were saying the Yankees wouldn't move Melky unless they got blown away or something.

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Melky will be dealt for Marte
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Jun 11 2008, 09:21 PM
Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?
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Jun 11 2008, 08:21 PM
Melky will be dealt for Marte

The Pirates don't need an outfielder though.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:24 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

I don't...Marte isn't what he was.
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

I don't...Marte isn't what he was.

yes he is. He's always been a touch overrated. Maybe he isn't as good as his career year in Chicago, but he is what he's been in Pittsburgh. He's been stellar since a bad April.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:29 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

The Pirates don't need an outfielder though.

they do - they will move Nady , whose 30 and on a ONE year deal, having a career , possible, year. He's gonna cash in - Melky has a Corner OF arm - youth and can switch hit. He'd be a perfect fit in the softossing NL.
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

Cashman LOVES Marte....they've tried to land him some 4-5 times already....
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Jun 11 2008, 09:50 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

Cashman LOVES Marte....they've tried to land him some 4-5 times already....

Do you like the deal?
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Jun 11 2008, 08:49 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

The Pirates don't need an outfielder though.

they do - they will move Nady , whose 30 and on a ONE year deal, having a career , possible, year. He's gonna cash in - Melky has a Corner OF arm - youth and can switch hit. He'd be a perfect fit in the softossing NL.

They have Andrew McCutchen in AAA. They have no use for Melky as anything but a 4th OFer if they move Michaels. If they plan to trade Bay maybe it would be different.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:51 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

Cashman LOVES Marte....they've tried to land him some 4-5 times already....

Do you like the deal?

I go back n forth on Melky - I like that he's a homegrown - I like his arm , however not sure if he's a reliable gap to gap CF ...and IMO in the AL he's not a Corner OF.
Do we need Marte if we deal Hawkins and Cox is what he is advertised as?
I'm gonna say as of now, I'd like the deal , only because I have zero faith in any Pen guy not named MO.
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Jun 11 2008, 09:57 PM
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Melky will be dealt for Marte

The Pirates don't need an outfielder though.

they do - they will move Nady , whose 30 and on a ONE year deal, having a career , possible, year. He's gonna cash in - Melky has a Corner OF arm - youth and can switch hit. He'd be a perfect fit in the softossing NL.

They have Andrew McCutchen in AAA. They have no use for Melky as anything but a 4th OFer if they move Michaels. If they plan to trade Bay maybe it would be different.

Bay's deal is coming to an end - he could be dealt as well to a team like the Dodgers.
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I think its going to take more than Melky to land Marte...relief pitching is at a premium as always....and the closer we get to July...the higher the price for a good solid reliever like Marte. There is no reason for them to sell low to the Yankees, if they sell him off at all.
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Jun 11 2008, 08:58 PM
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Jun 11 2008, 09:21 PM
Melky will be dealt for Marte

Do you actually like that deal?

Cashman LOVES Marte....they've tried to land him some 4-5 times already....

Do you like the deal?

I go back n forth on Melky - I like that he's a homegrown - I like his arm , however not sure if he's a reliable gap to gap CF ...and IMO in the AL he's not a Corner OF.
Do we need Marte if we deal Hawkins and Cox is what he is advertised as?
I'm gonna say as of now, I'd like the deal , only because I have zero faith in any Pen guy not named MO.

I don't think its a terrible deal either, and thats coming from a guy who thinks lefty specialists are overrated. Its not a steal by any means, but sometimes deals are fair.

I just don't think a team with 4 OFers that are out hitting Melky and one of baseballs best prospects in AAA will trade a guy like Marte for a 5th OFer this year who will be their 4th OFer next year and maybe start the year after that.
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I'm not trading a 23 yr old for a 33 yr old.
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Jun 11 2008, 10:10 PM
I'm not trading a 23 yr old for a 33 yr old.

Is Marte 33? I didn't think he was any more than 30 or so.
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I'm not trading a 23 yr old for a 33 yr old.

You wouldn't trade Jeff Marquez for Tim Hudson?
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Jun 11 2008, 10:10 PM
I'm not trading a 23 yr old for a 33 yr old.

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