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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 11 2007, 09:11 PM (325 Views) | |
| YankeeBaseball | Jul 11 2007, 09:11 PM Post #1 |
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Apparently the teams considering him are Yanks, Twins and Braves... Since Hillenbrand's only gonna cost the minimum, nothing to lose but Foolips. :smirk: |
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| HomieYank | Jul 11 2007, 09:17 PM Post #2 |
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Sure there is something to lose. You could give him playing time and see worse results than the current automatic out platoon. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 11 2007, 09:27 PM Post #3 |
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:please: With Foolips and Cairo, it can't get any worse... :peace: |
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| HomieYank | Jul 11 2007, 09:32 PM Post #4 |
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This year Hillenbrand is one of the few players that is actually being out hit by those two. I don't think a lot of people really realize how poor he's been playing. Plus Phillips is a world better defensively. Also Hillenbrand is a bigger asshole than Milton Bradley. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 11 2007, 09:44 PM Post #5 |
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We know how bad Foolips is and Cairo should be our utility guy, not platooning at 1st base, FFS. I'd give Hillenbrand a shot. If it doesn't work out, release him and no harm done. :peace: |
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| Bleedrngrblue | Jul 11 2007, 09:47 PM Post #6 |
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Is there any fight left in the dog.....?
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Gotta look to take a chance at this point! The status quo is by no means cutting it! |
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| Yanks473 | Jul 12 2007, 12:31 AM Post #7 |
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And the Band played on......
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This would be a great move. He's exactly the spark we need. |
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| Grandy4MVP | Jul 12 2007, 12:38 AM Post #8 |
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This guy is straight up VC, we sign off on this move! |
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| HomieYank | Jul 12 2007, 03:29 AM Post #9 |
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.254, 5 walks, 8 xbh, 64 total bases....in 197 ABs. I'll mail you 5 dollars if you can name for me 10 players doing worse in as many or more ABs. |
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| Yanks473 | Jul 12 2007, 12:58 PM Post #10 |
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He's a better player than that. Unless you want to claim that Josh "cut from 5 teams and soon to be a 6th" Phelps is better. |
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| HomieYank | Jul 12 2007, 01:02 PM Post #11 |
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I don't have to make that claim. So far this year its been pretty obvious, and Phelps isn't on the team anymore anyway. Since Hillenbrand left Toronto you can argue there hasn't been a worse player in major league baseball. I'll make it easier. How about 5 players that have performed worse in as many ABs? |
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| Yanks473 | Jul 12 2007, 01:14 PM Post #12 |
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So he's had a bad year. He's a guy that hits anywhere between .280-.300, has decent pop, hits doubles and puts the bat on the ball. Big f*cking deal he doesn't draw walks. We have 7 other guys in this lineup that can do that. Now come back and tell me how bad he's been this year again. |
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| HomieYank | Jul 12 2007, 01:27 PM Post #13 |
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This year AND last year. What else really matters? Are you expecting him to be a long term solution and have multiple years to "come around". He has never hit outside of hitters parks. If you want to say something like "well Phillips and Cairo are terrible so why not take a chance?" then whatever, but don't pretend this is going to be a good signing that will make any type of difference. You are guarenteed much less defense than Phillips with a decent chance that he'll hit as good and a slim chance he'll hit better. |
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| Yanks473 | Jul 12 2007, 01:55 PM Post #14 |
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That's all I'm saying. I know he's no long term solution. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jul 12 2007, 03:30 PM Post #15 |
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Give me Hillenbrand. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 12 2007, 10:42 PM Post #16 |
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What about trading some low level minor leaguer for Carlos Pena. He's pretty locked in. If not for a nice catch by Melky, he woulda had a double and been 2-3 with a walk tonight. Get this: The guy's hitting .287 20hr 52rbi at the all star break... beats the pants offa your boy Foolips, Homie. ;-) On edit: Just saw your thread about Pena, Vinnie. Great minds think alike! ;) |
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| HendoBaby | Jul 14 2007, 04:16 PM Post #17 |
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YB, you seem to think Pena's 1000 OPS, 20 HR first half is going to be overlooked by the Devil Rays. They have no reason to trade him, and if they did, they'd be commanding a lot. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jul 14 2007, 04:27 PM Post #18 |
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Plus the Devil Rays never make deals because they always ask for too much. |
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| HendoBaby | Jul 14 2007, 04:34 PM Post #19 |
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Couldn't they have had Teixiera for Joe Kennedy back in the day, but they wanted more for Kennedy? Maybe I heard wrong. Lamar's gone though now. I'm sure they are easier to work with. I just don't see why Pena would be had for anything short of a lot if at all. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 14 2007, 05:02 PM Post #20 |
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He was a scrub up until this year. That's why (although unlikely) it might be feasible for one of our B pitchers. :peace: |
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| HendoBaby | Jul 14 2007, 05:09 PM Post #21 |
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No owner in their right mind is going to ignore a young top notch defensive 1B hitting 20 jacks in the first half. If he was tradeable, it'd be costly. Once players breakout, you aren't getting them nearly as cheap if at all. |
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| HomieYank | Jul 14 2007, 05:17 PM Post #22 |
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If we're getting a Devil Ray to play first its Wigginton who is way better than what we've been throwing out there offensively, but still :puke: They aren't trading Pena. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jul 14 2007, 05:18 PM Post #23 |
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They would be smart to trade Pena if they got front line pitching in return. They have plenty of offensive talent, but the pitching blows. |
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| HomieYank | Jul 14 2007, 05:20 PM Post #24 |
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Its hard to get frontline pitching no matter who you are trading. Better players than Pena have been traded without getting anything that remotely resembles front line pitching. |
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| HendoBaby | Jul 14 2007, 06:39 PM Post #25 |
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Why do I never hear Dmitri Young's name for trade? I'm starting to think with how little is on the market, he'd actually get the Nationals something good. And even if they didn't get a lot, they should be looking to sell as the guy is having his best year and they don't need him |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 15 2007, 05:54 PM Post #26 |
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I'd give them the Yankee Clippard for him and he's got decent potential. :peace: |
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| HendoBaby | Jul 15 2007, 06:10 PM Post #27 |
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2 HRs for Carlos Pena this series. Am I the only one that thinks this guy is going to be a valuable major league 1B from now on? MM seems to not have a doubt in the world Pena is going to become a releasable player again. I don't think he was releasable to begin with back in Detroit. |
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| HomieYank | Jul 15 2007, 09:14 PM Post #28 |
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I liked him more than most when he was with the tigers. Even when he is going bad he is productive because he draws walks and hits for power. Now we see that when he's going good he's an all star calliber player. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Jul 16 2007, 09:30 AM Post #29 |
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and to think we had this jewel languishing in AAA in favor of foolips..... :wall: |
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| Mantlemurcer | Jul 16 2007, 10:41 AM Post #30 |
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Our biggest problem this year has been against lefties and Pena is hitting .200 against them. This guy is having a super year and maybe it will last for the rest of his career, but I wouldn't make book on it. YB's ass pimple is better than Foolups. |
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