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Arod looks awesome so far
Topic Started: Apr 18 2007, 02:26 PM (345 Views)
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Just because I'm being a dick about the fact that I'm right doesn't mean I lick A-Rods sack. It seems like I do because for some reason people undervalue the guy and to point out that they are wrong I have to mention when he does something good. Since that happens SOO often with him it seems like I'm on his sac. It was the same way when BC hated Jeter years ago. I wasn't on his sac either, but in pointing out that BC was wrong so often it seemed like I was. Its also like when everybody thought Nick Johnson was a bust. I got labeled an appologist and a Nick Johnson dick rider when the only thing I really did wrong was be right. We've been going back and forth with this A-Rod thing, don't act like its been me the whole time. I expose people's short sightedness and hypocrisies if/when it accentuates how right I always am. So I'll "let it go" when you admit your views on A-Rod are unreasonable and based on nothing that sets him appart from any Yankee save Mariano.
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I figured A-Rod would do the typical thing and have a big year and opt out, sticking it to us. But what he's doing with the clutch hits, that's something I didn't expect.

He found a way to compile in 2 of his 3 seasons. I don't how you can compile such nice stats, and it's silly to say, but I think most will agree. A-Rod was not a star 2 of the 3 years here. The numbers will show he wasn't a bust, but that's just looking at a stat sheet. Most that saw him day in and day out weren't satisfied and justifiably so.
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A-Rod was not a star 2 of the 3 years here.
Not being the Texas/Seattle A-Rod and not being a star are two very different things. He was the best player in the league 1 of his 3 years, the best 3Bman in the league both others.
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I don't how you can compile such nice stats, and it's silly to say, but I think most will agree.
In my mind its mostly perception. I know I'm the minority, but people have had MUCH worse "clutch" seasons/careers here and flew way under the radar. Many were even viewed as extreemly clutch by most, like Tino for example.
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The numbers will show he wasn't a bust, but that's just looking at a stat sheet. Most that saw him day in and day out weren't satisfied and justifiably so.
Its different to not be satisfied and to say some of the things that have been said about him. He wad good post season series' his first year here, he straight up put this team in the playoffs his second year here, all while swithcing positions and getting shitted on. Could he have been better? Yes. Should he have been better? Maybe. Was he as bad as people are making him out to be? No way. He's also led baseball in go ahead and game winning RBI in that time. Those are important hits whether they are in the 2nd or 9th innings.

I don't love the guy or think he was as good as he could have been in 04/06, but i'm going to look at what he's done realistically and not jump on him like some have.
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People will miss A-Rod when we have some piece of sh*t who can't hit worth a lick playing at third next season. I'm no A-Rod lover, but I'm realistic about them trying to "replace" him as well. And on top of losing his bat and weakening the offense, we're still going to have one dog sh*t starting rotation, which has been the main problem, the last 3 years especially and looks to be a problem again this season.
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Yanksfan03
Apr 20 2007, 01:12 AM
People will miss A-Rod when we have some piece of sh*t who can't hit worth a lick playing at third next season. I'm no A-Rod lover, but I'm realistic about them trying to "replace" him as well. And on top of losing his bat and weakening the offense, we're still going to have one dog sh*t starting rotation, which has been the main problem, the last 3 years especially and looks to be a problem again this season.

As you've said many times, getting rid of A-Rod solves nothing.
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The ball's in A-Rod's court though. We'd be absolutely lost without him.
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A-Rod would be a fool if he decided not to opt out.
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I'm not gonna jump the A-Rod cock though. Yes, we've needed his bat to get to post-season. But he's not exactly been Mr. Clutch or came through when we needed it the most. We wouldn't have missed the A-Rod of the last 2 of 3 years much if we got a top level 3B, despite him being statistically still the best. This A-Rod though, the one we paid for, is indispensible.
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In the 2004 Post Season he was awesome against Minnesota, and if Mo does his f*cking job, A-Rod is the MVP of that ALCS. Unfortunately, his bat went silent after game 4, but his wasn't the only one to go. If we had any pitching to speak of the last few years, we'd have been fine. Yes, A-Rod has been bad in the playoffs in 05, and 06, I won't deny that, but so has Matsui, Jeter hasn't been what he was during the Dynasty years, Sheffield was crap, Matsui was crap, Damon, the list goes on. When nobody is hitting, and Jaret Wright is starting elimination games, I have a hard time faulting just one guy for the problems. If anything, I put it on the fools running this team for thinking that you can get through October on big bats alone, it's happened, but not often.
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Apr 20 2007, 02:34 AM
In the 2004 Post Season he was awesome against Minnesota, and if Mo does his f*cking job, A-Rod is the MVP of that ALCS.  Unfortunately, his bat went silent after game 4, but his wasn't the only one to go.  If we had any pitching to speak of the last few years, we'd have been fine.  Yes, A-Rod has been bad in the playoffs in 05, and 06, I won't deny that, but so has Matsui, Jeter hasn't been what he was during the Dynasty years, Sheffield was crap, Matsui was crap, Damon, the list goes on.  When nobody is hitting, and Jaret Wright is starting elimination games, I have a hard time faulting just one guy for the problems.  If anything, I put it on the fools running this team for thinking that you can get through October on big bats alone, it's happened, but not often.

That's well put honestly. But I would just say that a superstar of A-Rod's caliber is supposed to lift his team up with some key hits, and A-Rod had many an opportunity to be that catalyst. Instead, he choked.
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A-Rod will opt out in hopes of getting a new contract with the Yankees. He won't opt out because he wants to leave.

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The ball's in A-Rod's court though. We'd be absolutely lost without him.


I disagree. The ball is really in our court. The Yanks are gonna have A-Rod for 4 years at a bargain. We know that, A-Rod knows that and Boras knows that. It's time to pay the piper. 120/6.

BTW, assuming A-Rod would stay healthy he'd be stupid to opt out. Between the 81 million more he's guranteed plus what he'd get in the contract after that he'd get a lot more money than if he got a new contract now. He's just going for the security of a long term deal God forbid anything happen to him .
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He still has, what, 3 years left? I really can't see why he would want to opt out now. However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.
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Apr 20 2007, 10:35 AM
He still has, what, 3 years left? I really can't see why he would want to opt out now. However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.

LOL...why? Because he'll make more money.
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Apr 20 2007, 10:35 AM
He still has, what, 3 years left? I really can't see why he would want to opt out now. However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.

You'd give A-Rod and Scott Boras a blank check? For a Jew, you've gotta step your business game up, young'n.
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Apr 20 2007, 10:35 AM
He still has, what, 3 years left?  I really can't see why he would want to opt out now.  However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.

You'd give A-Rod and Scott Boras a blank check? For a Jew, you've gotta step your business game up, young'n.

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He still has, what, 3 years left?  I really can't see why he would want to opt out now.  However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.

You'd give A-Rod and Scott Boras a blank check? For a Jew, you've gotta step your business game up, young'n.

But he's A-Rod :love:
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He still has, what, 3 years left?  I really can't see why he would want to opt out now.  However, if he does, I would give him a blank check.

You'd give A-Rod and Scott Boras a blank check? For a Jew, you've gotta step your business game up, young'n.

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A Rod has been treated unfairly. Has he been the A Rod of Seattle or Texas??? No, but he was pretty damn close to it his MVP year here. Has he failed in the playoffs??? Sure, but who hasn't. There have been a lot of guys guilty for us since 2004, let's not forget the Twins series in '04 like Homie said. He is just under a HUGE microscope, and if you are the highest paid player on the most famous team in all of sports, that is going to happen. There have been plenty of times to be rough on A Rod, nobody can dispute that, a lot of the fans have taken it overboard though.
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Apr 20 2007, 03:00 PM
A Rod has been treated unfairly.  Has he been the A Rod of Seattle or Texas???  No, but he was pretty damn close to it his MVP year here.  Has he failed in the playoffs???  Sure, but who hasn't.  There have been a lot of guys guilty for us since 2004, let's not forget the Twins series in '04 like Homie said.  He is just under a HUGE microscope, and if you are the highest paid player on the most famous team in all of sports, that is going to happen.  There have been plenty of times to be rough on A Rod, nobody can dispute that, a lot of the fans have taken it overboard though.

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Apr 20 2007, 03:00 PM
A Rod has been treated unfairly. Has he been the A Rod of Seattle or Texas??? No, but he was pretty damn close to it his MVP year here. Has he failed in the playoffs??? Sure, but who hasn't. There have been a lot of guys guilty for us since 2004, let's not forget the Twins series in '04 like Homie said. He is just under a HUGE microscope, and if you are the highest paid player on the most famous team in all of sports, that is going to happen. There have been plenty of times to be rough on A Rod, nobody can dispute that, a lot of the fans have taken it overboard though.

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