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Topic Started: Dec 29 2006, 11:45 PM (97 Views)
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 29 2006, 11:45 PM
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Ankle injury, wont play vs. skins.
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Strider
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Dec 30 2006, 02:30 AM
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Good. This only helps the cause. Besides, it ain't like they'd be throwing to him or getting him downfield anyway. Shiancoe can get thrown to 5 times and finish with 3 catches for 28 yards, too.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 03:27 AM
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- Dec 30 2006, 01:30 AM
it ain't like they'd be throwing to him or getting him downfield anyway. Shiancoe can get thrown to 5 times and finish with 3 catches for 28 yards, too.
I heard that.
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Dec 30 2006, 03:31 AM
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I really, really don't want them to win tomorrow. A win could set them back for a years, like how Strider said the Super Bowl run did.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 05:21 PM
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I want this game. Save a little face. Make the playoffs. Maybe win a game. Make up for some of the sh*t these cocksmokers made us eat this year....
Then I want Coughlin gone. I want him in the dumpster behind the Meadowlnads A.S.A.P.
Stick him wit Jimmy Hoffa someplace. Hufnagel too. And everybody else...Start fresh...
Give Fat Charlie a boatload of money to get him out of his Notre Dame contract...And get him in here to work with Eli....Cause the way I see it, this kid has 1 year left to show me improvemnt by leaps and bounds or I am officially declaring him bust, and looking to have him whacked too....
Get rid of Plastico, buh bye Tiki, Get that gay bitch Strahan to retire....
I want a fresh slate...
But I will take a playoff birth and a first round win before we start takin suckas out...
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Dec 30 2006, 05:56 PM
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You're setting yourself up for a let down.
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Venom
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Dec 30 2006, 06:11 PM
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May the Force be with you
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At least he isn't Jewish.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 06:13 PM
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- Dec 30 2006, 05:11 PM
At least he isn't Jewish.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 06:14 PM
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- Dec 30 2006, 04:56 PM
You're setting yourself up for a let down.
Tell me something I dont already know.....
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Dec 30 2006, 06:14 PM
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Dec 30 2006, 06:46 PM
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I want this game. Save a little face. Make the playoffs. Maybe win a game. Make up for some of the sh*t these cocksmokers made us eat this year.... Then I want Coughlin gone. I want him in the dumpster behind the Meadowlnads A.S.A.P. Stick him wit Jimmy Hoffa someplace. Hufnagel too. And everybody else...Start fresh... Give Fat Charlie a boatload of money to get him out of his Notre Dame contract...And get him in here to work with Eli....Cause the way I see it, this kid has 1 year left to show me improvemnt by leaps and bounds or I am officially declaring him bust, and looking to have him whacked too.... Get rid of Plastico, buh bye Tiki, Get that gay bitch Strahan to retire.... I want a fresh slate... But I will take a playoff birth and a first round win before we start takin suckas out... :ph34r:
I have a friend who thinks that playoffs and a chance is better than nothing. I think that's foolishness. This team CAN'T win in the playoffs. f*ck saving face (not that there's a face to be saved when you start 6-2 and end 8-8 or 7-9), they need that face hacked up. The face is ugly. Them making the playoffs would be slapping makeup on a fugly bitch and saying, "You're kinda cute." f*ck that. This whore needs the Extreme Makeover and one of them Jenny Jones makeovers, too.
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But I have to disagree about them making the playoffs. No more games and a better draft pick is better than one more meaningless game. This season ended after the loss to the Bears. It was their 3rd guage 'em game and their 3rd loss in such games. The Colts - they missed opportunities (could've picked Manning off 4 times and won). Missing opportunities has become a trend for these losers. The Seahawks - all the flaws were exposed. Eli threw 3 INTs, one of which was off a bobble from Dhalsim. The defense was torn apart and the secondary, which the organization foolishly thought was fixed with the signings of has-been Sam Madison and never-been Will Demps, was exposed. Sans the garbage time stat-pad touchdowns, they were BLOWN-THE-f*ck out. The Bears - More wasted opportunities, horrible coaching and the inevitable implosion. They're up 13-3 and miss out on opportunities to score more. The Giants should've had AT LEAST 23 points in the first half. Coughlin decides to go for a 52-yard field goal against the wind, despite the fact that Feely had missed from 33 against the wind earlier and the team was down 4 w/ 11 minutes left. A good punt pins Grossman inside the 10. A missed field goal - and from 52 yards into the wind, you almost have to expect it to miss - at the very least sets the Bears up with good field position. And at the very worst it lands in the hands of Devin Hester. Then they rolled over and allowed Chicago to run away with it.
After that, I knew they wouldn't make anything of the season - nothing substantial. Teams like this don't have real success, even if they're able to compile 10 wins and make the playoffs. Teams that make as many mistakes, fold as easily, turn the ball over as much, commit as many penalties, commit as many STUPID penalties, have stretches of absolute ineptitude and have a propensity to fall apart and quit. And that's just the players. The coaching sucks, too. But I'd need about 1,500 words to get into detail about the coaches.
That said, the 2006 season has BEEN over. f*ck this team. If you don't think your team can make a run at the Super Bowl - at this point, even the players don't think they can - then it's all about building towards that. It's already the off-season so let's look toward 2007. And that means the draft. The Giants are in desperate need of a good cornerback. Unfortunately, good corners are getting signed for $50+ million contracts and the Giants, as usual, don't have that much cap room. They'll have to draft one, and good corners go early. They also need an OT to groom as Petitgout's replacement. Should've sought that last year (Jonathan Scott), but...spilled milk. Those are 2 positions on which a premium is placed. The good CBs and OTs go high, and often in succession. So the better draft pick they can secure, the better chance they have of landing someone who might be useful.
They could also use a center (O'Hara is solid, but they need more power on the o-line and he's the only one not locked into a long-term deal), free safety (Pretty Willie was a bad signing), outside linebacker (I like Gerris Wilkinson, but Emmons was a horrible signing and Arrington might be released). They might even need two corners, come to think of it. Who has been pleased with Corey Webster? They'll also need a 3rd down type of back to compliment Jacobs. They might even need a receiver. Toomer, I think, is due to make over $5 million next season. That's too much for a split end so he might be a cap casualty. Do you have 100% confidence in Sinorice or Timmy taking over opposite Charleston Chew?
Lot of holes. Some will be filled through free agency, but this will have to be a big draft for them. I want them in the best possible position. Having them make the playoffs and get blown out wouldn't be worth losing a few slots in the draft.
Think a few slots doesn't matter much?
2000 - In the 1st round, the Giants take Ron Dayne at #11, 2 slots after the Bears got Urlacher. Five slots before they took Cornelius Griffin in the 2nd, Marvel Smith (Pro Bowl tackle for the Steelers) went. In the 3rd, two spots before we took Ron Dixon, the Eagles got Darwin Walker.
2001 - The Giants draft Will Allen at #22. The 17th pick was Steve Hutchinson, now the best guard in the league. The 19th pick was 3-time Pro Bowler Casey Hampton. The 21st pick was 2-time Pro Bowler Nate Clements. In the 3rd round that year, they picked Will Peterson 5 spots behind Steve Smith.
2002 - They got Shockey, who they wanted, at #14. Had they won an extra game and been picking, say, 18th, either the Browns or Raiders would've scooped him.
2003 - Even for later in the draft. Four spots before we took Rod Babers (remember him) in the 4th round, the Pats got Asante Samuel, who's a Pro Bowler this year. In the 6th round, we got Willie Ponder right after the Colts took Cato June.
I could look for more examples, but you get the point.
As a fan, I can't root for them during the game to screw up. I can't see Eli drop back and hope he throws a pick. But being objective, I think they'd be better off getting blown out in embarassing fashion. Maybe that would bring about the necessary changes.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 06:49 PM
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Them making the playoffs would be slapping makeup on a fugly bitch and saying, "You're kinda cute." f*ck that. This whore needs the Extreme Makeover and one of them Jenny Jones makeovers, too.
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BleacherCreature
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Dec 30 2006, 06:53 PM
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But I have to disagree about them making the playoffs. No more games and a better draft pick is better than one more meaningless game. This season ended after the loss to the Bears. It was their 3rd guage 'em game and their 3rd loss in such games. The Colts - they missed opportunities (could've picked Manning off 4 times and won). Missing opportunities has become a trend for these losers. The Seahawks - all the flaws were exposed. Eli threw 3 INTs, one of which was off a bobble from Dhalsim. The defense was torn apart and the secondary, which the organization foolishly thought was fixed with the signings of has-been Sam Madison and never-been Will Demps, was exposed. Sans the garbage time stat-pad touchdowns, they were BLOWN-THE-f*ck out. The Bears - More wasted opportunities, horrible coaching and the inevitable implosion. They're up 13-3 and miss out on opportunities to score more. The Giants should've had AT LEAST 23 points in the first half. Coughlin decides to go for a 52-yard field goal against the wind, despite the fact that Feely had missed from 33 against the wind earlier and the team was down 4 w/ 11 minutes left. A good punt pins Grossman inside the 10. A missed field goal - and from 52 yards into the wind, you almost have to expect it to miss - at the very least sets the Bears up with good field position. And at the very worst it lands in the hands of Devin Hester. Then they rolled over and allowed Chicago to run away with it.
After that, I knew they wouldn't make anything of the season - nothing substantial. Teams like this don't have real success, even if they're able to compile 10 wins and make the playoffs. Teams that make as many mistakes, fold as easily, turn the ball over as much, commit as many penalties, commit as many STUPID penalties, have stretches of absolute ineptitude and have a propensity to fall apart and quit. And that's just the players. The coaching sucks, too. But I'd need about 1,500 words to get into detail about the coaches.
That said, the 2006 season has BEEN over. f*ck this team. If you don't think your team can make a run at the Super Bowl - at this point, even the players don't think they can - then it's all about building towards that. It's already the off-season so let's look toward 2007. And that means the draft. The Giants are in desperate need of a good cornerback. Unfortunately, good corners are getting signed for $50+ million contracts and the Giants, as usual, don't have that much cap room. They'll have to draft one, and good corners go early. They also need an OT to groom as Petitgout's replacement. Should've sought that last year (Jonathan Scott), but...spilled milk. Those are 2 positions on which a premium is placed. The good CBs and OTs go high, and often in succession. So the better draft pick they can secure, the better chance they have of landing someone who might be useful.
They could also use a center (O'Hara is solid, but they need more power on the o-line and he's the only one not locked into a long-term deal), free safety (Pretty Willie was a bad signing), outside linebacker (I like Gerris Wilkinson, but Emmons was a horrible signing and Arrington might be released). They might even need two corners, come to think of it. Who has been pleased with Corey Webster? They'll also need a 3rd down type of back to compliment Jacobs. They might even need a receiver. Toomer, I think, is due to make over $5 million next season. That's too much for a split end so he might be a cap casualty. Do you have 100% confidence in Sinorice or Timmy taking over opposite Charleston Chew?
Lot of holes. Some will be filled through free agency, but this will have to be a big draft for them. I want them in the best possible position. Having them make the playoffs and get blown out wouldn't be worth losing a few slots in the draft.
Think a few slots doesn't matter much?
2001 - The Giants draft Will Allen at #22. The 17th pick was Steve Hutchinson, now the best guard in the league. The 19th pick was 3-time Pro Bowler Casey Hampton. The 21st pick was 2-time Pro Bowler Nate Clements. In the 3rd round that year, they picked Will Peterson 5 spots behind Steve Smith.
2002 - They got Shockey, who they wanted, at #14. Had they won an extra game and been picking, say, 18th, either the Browns or Raiders would've scooped him.
2003 - Even for later in the draft. Four spots before we took Rod Babers (remember him) in the 4th round, the Pats got Asante Samuel, who's a Pro Bowler this year. In the 6th round, we got Willie Ponder right after the Colts took Cato June.
I could look for more examples, but you get the point.
As a fan, I can't root for them during the game to screw up. I can't see Eli drop back and hope he throws a pick. But being objective, I think they'd be better off getting blown out in embarassing fashion. Maybe that would bring about the necessary changes.
Strider you are absolutely 100% right....No doubt..
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As a fan, I can't root for them during the game to screw up. I can't see Eli drop back and hope he throws a pick.
Thats where I am at right now...As a fan, I want the win and the palyoff birth...
But you know what...
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But being objective, I think they'd be better off getting blown out in embarassing fashion. Maybe that would bring about the necessary changes.
Once again, you are dead on balls brah....
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Strider
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Dec 30 2006, 07:05 PM
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Yeah. When the game starts, I'll be rooting for...sh*t, not the team, but I'll be rooting for stats. Every time Tiki gets a carry, I'll be hoping he breaks one for 70 yards. Every time Eli throw, I'll be hoping it goes for a TD. But right now, and if I take a step back and keep it real, I f*cking hope they lose 114-0 and Bob Whitfield powerbombs Coughlin onto the Gatorade bucket.
Then hopefully I'll hear tomorrow that Coughlin was fired and the team is expecting to undergo a bunch of changes for 2007. I'm so f*cking sick of this group.
And it's still a maybe. Because personally, I think Coughlin keeps his job. This organization never does what I want. I can think of 3 times only: (1) Draft Shockey. That was an obvious move cuz we had f*cking Howard Cross' jiggly titty-havin' ass trying to run 3-yard routes. (2) Sign Kareem McKenzie. They overpaid, but we needed a RT and he was the best available. (3) Draft Brandon Jacobs. They surprised me on that one because he had been one of my "I'm on his dick and nobody else is" sleepers from January of '05 and I was surprised Accorsi even knew who the f*ck he was. That's it. And if they do SOMEHOW fire Coughlin, they'll bring in some cocksucker who I might hate even more.
btw - After I posted that, I added some examples from the 2000 draft.
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