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Macha fired
Topic Started: Oct 16 2006, 04:34 PM (115 Views)
Giambi_MVP_25
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Oh sh*t
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Beane is an idiot.
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Great GMing. :thumbup2:
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Why does this make Beane an Idiot? Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did. Macha didn't do anything special.
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Wow, they finally get passed the first round and he fires him? Sillinesxs!
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Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot? Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did. Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.
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Unbelievable.
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Good move. Macha is almost as comatose as Torre.
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Oct 16 2006, 04:54 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot?  Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did.  Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.

Whats the relation?
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Oct 16 2006, 07:43 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 04:54 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot?  Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did.  Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.

Whats the relation?

If Torre kept his job than Macha should have kept his or if Macha is fired then Torre should have been since they both had the best talent in their respective division. One thing the A’s lineup is a sally league special and Macha did win the division series which is more than Torre can say this year.
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Reports have said Macha didn't have great communication with his young players and would alienate guys who were out with injuries. And you can't do that when one of those guys is Bobby Crosby.
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Oct 17 2006, 02:42 AM
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Oct 16 2006, 07:43 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 04:54 PM
HomieYank
Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot?  Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did.  Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.

Whats the relation?

If Torre kept his job than Macha should have kept his or if Macha is fired then Torre should have been since they both had the best talent in their respective division. One thing the A’s lineup is a sally league special and Macha did win the division series which is more than Torre can say this year.

Oh ok, I wasn't sure what he meant. Personally I don't think you can put any organization in the same boat as any other. If the Owner/GM and manager aren't on the same page it isn't going to work. I'm sure Macha made some moves that aren't conducive to Beane's philosophy so now he's gone. Torre and Cashman(bad decisions by Torre aside) complement eachother. Beane and most managers don't.
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Oct 17 2006, 10:12 AM
Reports have said Macha didn't have great communication with his young players and would alienate guys who were out with injuries.  And you can't do that when one of those guys is Bobby Crosby.

Young players are important, but unless Macha personally handles rehab(I'm certain he doesn't) then why would he need to deal with injured players at all? They need to get healthy and come back or they are useless to the team. If I was a healthy player it would bother me if the manager was wasting time on players that can't help the team win. To be honest if I was said injured player I wouldn't like that. I'm not saying he should be a dick to them and if that was the case then they have a point, but I think its pretty self absorbed for a player to get annoyed at a manager who is trying to win for not paying enough attention to him if he can't even play. Bobby Crosby isn't even all that nice to begin with.
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Bobby Crosby isn't even all that nice to begin with.


Holla.
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Oct 17 2006, 04:59 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 07:43 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 04:54 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot?  Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did.  Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.

Whats the relation?

If Torre kept his job than Macha should have kept his or if Macha is fired then Torre should have been since they both had the best talent in their respective division. One thing the A’s lineup is a sally league special and Macha did win the division series which is more than Torre can say this year.

Oh ok, I wasn't sure what he meant. Personally I don't think you can put any organization in the same boat as any other. If the Owner/GM and manager aren't on the same page it isn't going to work. I'm sure Macha made some moves that aren't conducive to Beane's philosophy so now he's gone. Torre and Cashman(bad decisions by Torre aside) complement eachother. Beane and most managers don't.

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Didn't Beane try to fire Macha last year but brought him back?
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Oct 17 2006, 07:22 PM
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Oct 17 2006, 04:59 PM
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Oct 17 2006, 02:42 AM
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Oct 16 2006, 07:43 PM
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Oct 16 2006, 04:54 PM
HomieYank
Oct 16 2006, 05:22 PM
Why does this make Beane an Idiot?  Oakland had the players to win a weak division and it did.  Macha didn't do anything special.

Just like Joe Torre.

Whats the relation?

If Torre kept his job than Macha should have kept his or if Macha is fired then Torre should have been since they both had the best talent in their respective division. One thing the A’s lineup is a sally league special and Macha did win the division series which is more than Torre can say this year.

Oh ok, I wasn't sure what he meant. Personally I don't think you can put any organization in the same boat as any other. If the Owner/GM and manager aren't on the same page it isn't going to work. I'm sure Macha made some moves that aren't conducive to Beane's philosophy so now he's gone. Torre and Cashman(bad decisions by Torre aside) complement eachother. Beane and most managers don't.

:yes:

Didn't Beane try to fire Macha last year but brought him back?

Haha, yeah I think I remember something like that happening, All the Howe's and Melvins, and Macha's are pretty much lumped together for me. He needs a young guy, I don't know why he keeps going with old school managers. I think he likes firing people.
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