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Burrell was curiously absent from the Phillies lineup last night. :think:

I'd prefer Andrew Jones, Abreu or SorianO over righty Burrell if they insist on getting an outfielder, but in my opinion Cabrera has shown enough and we'd be better advised to keep the prospects for pitching help. I'd move Duncan for Eyre in a heartbeat as the starting pitching pickin's are mighty slim. :peace:
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Burrell was curiously absent from the Phillies lineup last night. :think:

I'd prefer Andrew Jones, Abreu or SorianO over righty Burrell if they insist on getting an outfielder, but in my opinion Cabrera has shown enough and we'd be better advised to keep the prospects for pitching help. I'd move Duncan for Eyre in a heartbeat as the starting pitching pickin's are mighty slim. :peace:

Jones or Sori, I say yes. No to Burrell or Abreu. And under NO circumstances do I want to see Hughes moved, for ANYONE! We need a home grown stud in the worst way, especially in the pitching arena!
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Agreed, I want NO part of Pat the Bat!
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Burrell K's alot but he also walks a ton. If the price is right I wouldn't mind pencilling him in batting 6th in front of Posada.
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Burrell K's alot but he also walks a ton. If the price is right I wouldn't mind pencilling him in batting 6th in front of Posada.

His defense is pretty bad though.
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Burrell K's alot but he also walks a ton.  If the price is right I wouldn't mind pencilling him in batting 6th in front of Posada.

His defense is pretty bad though.

Yeah, He's no Melky :smirk: :peace:
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If Bernie can play RF at Yankee Stadium I think Burrell could handle it. He'd also get time at DH and maybe even 1B. He came up a 3B, then moved to first, then the outfield. Melkey in left, Burrell in right, when Sheffield comes back he DH's most of the time.
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If Bernie can play RF at Yankee Stadium I think Burrell could handle it. He'd also get time at DH and maybe even 1B. He came up a 3B, then moved to first, then the outfield. Melkey in left, Burrell in right, when Sheffield comes back he DH's most of the time.

I'll pass.
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.



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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.
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But if it came down to trading away the prospect for a solid bat or overpaying for a pitcher not worth it then what?
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But if it came down to trading away the prospect for a solid bat or overpaying for a pitcher not worth it then what?

Then just sit back and wait. Gotta stop depleting the system some time. As of right now, betweem Melky, Burrell, and Abreu, I think Melky is the better choice, and I'm not sold on him, but he's produced when he had every reason to crumble!
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But if it came down to trading away the prospect for a solid bat or overpaying for a pitcher not worth it then what?

Then just sit back and wait.



Exactly.


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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.

Willis is pitching to an era of about 5 right now. Even if he comes over here and pitches to a 4.30 era, how much of an improvement is that over any of our guys besides Johnson(not moving) and Wright(5th starter)? Based on the Beckett and Mulder trades Willis would cost us more prospects(that we don't really currently have) than any Bat currently would for again, a pretty minimal improvement. Put Willis' probable AL numbers against Mussina, Wang, Chacon, Johnson, and Wright, then put an impact power bat up against Crosby, Thompson, Long, and Bernie. Which improves the runs scored to runs given up ratio more?

Zito like Willis enjoys the benefits of a pitchers park in a pitchers division. Also like Willis, Zito would cost us quite a bit in the way of prospects. Ralistically we don't get either of these guys without loosing Hughes AND one of Wang/Cano/Cox/Melky... Zito's era against boston last year was 5.73(6.00 in fenway) and 5.11 against Baltimore(6.00 in camden yards). Those numbers were MUCH worse in 04, including a 13.04 era in fenway and a 6.11 against Baltimore.

I know pitching is important, but the bigger upgrade in this case is also the cheaper upgrade. My Ideal trades right now would be a bunch of little Chacon-type trades that don't deplete the farm.
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A bat like Sanders, or someone like him, that would come cheaper would be a much better option. If a Jason Schmidt becomes available then you have more chips to get him.
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)
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A bat like Sanders, or someone like him, that would come cheaper would be a much better option. If a Jason Schmidt becomes available then you have more chips to get him.

I agree on Sanders as long as he comes cheap. :rock:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.

:please: Farnsworth has flat out sucked. Get yer head outta yer azz. :peace:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.

:please: Farnsworth has flat out sucked. Get yer head outta yer azz. :peace:

:please: you're embarrassing your generation.
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I don't know about one of the best relievers in baseball, but I like Eyre. Don't know If I'd deal Duncan right now considering his value is so low, I mean look at Melky's stats before this year. An 20 year old AFL MVP should have more trade value than a good setup man.
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.

:please: Farnsworth has flat out sucked. Get yer head outta yer azz. :peace:

:please: you're embarrassing your generation.

:please: Silliness. You must be sunshine drunk if you think Farnsworthless is the answer. :peace:


:no: Answer the question. What good starting pitcher we gonna get? :agent:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.

:please: Farnsworth has flat out sucked. Get yer head outta yer azz. :peace:

:please: you're embarrassing your generation.

:please: Silliness. You must be sunshine drunk if you think Farnsworthless is the answer. :peace:


:no: Answer the question. What good starting pitcher we gonna get? :agent:

This isn't a defense of Farnsworth - it's a defense of not trading a prospect for a reliever who has a 4.38 lifetime ERA. Did you know that? Did you know he's walked 15 in 27 innings this year? :yes:
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As I've said a million times we should not be trading any of the few prospects we have for a bat. Bats are a dime a dozen. Decent guys can be picked off the waiver wire after July 31 if need be.

For now, give Thompson a shot.

If you want to improve this team, improve the rotation. If Zito or Willis are available, make a call. We know Beane won't give Zito away, but you never know with Florida.

I'd rather use prospects for a Bat that I know will produce than for Zito or Willis who may or may not pitch to a 4.30+ era and get bitch slapped by Boston.

A starting pitcher is more important.


Like who?? Which good starter can we realistically get, Sunshine ?????

That's why I'm saying to deal prettyboy duncan for Eyre. He immediately makes the bridge to Mo rock solid and when Dotel returns, if he's good, we have about the best pen in baseball. ;)

Duncan for Eyre is just plain assanine. You don't trade a top prospect for a set up guy :please:

dunkin = Top Prospect? .209 :laugh2:

Eyre is one of the best releivers in beisabol. The only reason he's potentially available is The Cubs are out of it. Our bullpen has sucked lately (except for Mo and possibly Villone). Eyre would be a huge upgrade over your boy Farnsworthleess...

and you didn't answer my question. What good starting pitcher can we get?? I don't see us getting anything special... thus, the best way to improve our pitching is to improve the bullpen. Nothing assinine about that, ya Focker. :agent:

:laugh2: A huge upgrade over Farnsworth. You make him sound like Mo.

:please: Farnsworth has flat out sucked. Get yer head outta yer azz. :peace:

:please: you're embarrassing your generation.

:please: Silliness. You must be sunshine drunk if you think Farnsworthless is the answer. :peace:


:no: Answer the question. What good starting pitcher we gonna get? :agent:

This isn't a defense of Farnsworth - it's a defense of not trading a prospect for a reliever who has a 4.38 lifetime ERA. Did you know that? Did you know he's walked 15 in 27 innings this year? :yes:

:please: He's struck out 31 with a 2.00 era. :rock:


How we gonna improve our pitching? What starting pitcher we getting, Bozo??? :wtf:
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How we gonna improve our pitching? What starting pitcher we getting, Bozo???  :wtf:


I don't have a problem trading Duncan for starting pitching. You improve our starting pitching and then the pen isn't so taxed. :peace:
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