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Yankees among teams interested in Tony Pena's son
Topic Started: May 25 2006, 11:59 AM (138 Views)
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Young Pena will be pricey

By Juan C. Rodriguez
South Florida Sun-Sentinel

May 24, 2006

This year's most significant amateur signing may not come from what many consider a weak draft.

Among the biggest prizes is a 16-year-old Dominican prospect with an attractive baseball pedigree.

The Marlins are among the teams in the mix for Francisco Pena, the son of former Royals manager and Yankees coach Tony Pena. Like his former all-star father, Francisco is a catcher who already has drawn the attention of deep-pocketed teams like the Yankees and Mets.

According to a source that has spoken with the Marlins, how long they stay in the running will depend on whether the bidding gets out of hand. The younger Pena is expected to command a seven-figure signing bonus.

One Marlins player believes it's a reasonable price. Catcher Miguel Olivo is from the same province as the Pena family and knows Francisco well. When Olivo was in the American League and Pena managed the Royals, Olivo would run into Francisco in Kansas City.

"I think he's worth more than [$1 million]," Olivo said. "If he was eligible for the draft here, for me he would be a first-rounder. Good arm. He throws almost as good as me, and he has good size. I knew from seeing him he would be a professional. His father would work him out. Tony Pena has baseball in his blood, and his kids are the same."

Pena already has one son in pro ball. Tony Pena Jr. is a shortstop in the Braves system and made his major league debut earlier this season.

If money doesn't eliminate the Marlins from contention, family ties might. The Braves may be a sleeper to land the 6-foot-2, 205-pound Pena, who some believe wants to play with his older brother.

The Marlins, who are thin at the upper levels of the organization at catcher, do have one factor going for them. Albert Gonzalez, their new director of international operations, spent the previous 13 seasons in the Royals organization and has relationships with Pena and his son.

The signing period for international players begins July 2.

"If it turns into a bidding war, the smart thing to do is get out," said one baseball official who is following the situation. "He's a good kid and has got some ability. When the Yankees and Mets get in it ... you know how it is."


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He's one of two teenage catchers they are looking at. The other is a 15 year old from Venezuela that only the Yankees or Mets will be able to sign. Once he turns 16 this year there should be a bidding war. I forget his name, but I'll look him up. He's supposed to be a super prospect.
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He's one of two teenage catchers they are looking at. The other is a 15 year old from Venezuela that only the Yankees or Mets will be able to sign. Once he turns 16 this year there should be a bidding war. I forget his name, but I'll look him up. He's supposed to be a super prospect.


Maybe the Mets can sign him whiles he's still 15, MLB can find out, void the contract, then the Yankees can sign him the day he turns 16. Oh wait, that already happened with Wily Mo Pena.

I'd sign Tony Pena's son, if possible, for sure. His dad was amazing defensively. It'd be nice to groom him and it can be done slowly since he's only 16. To get a guy who is considered first round talent without using a draft pick is almost a no brainer.

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One guy is a 16 year old son of a former Major League catcher, the other was a no-talent ass clown from Cuba who lied about his age. I don't see the similarities.
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He's one of two teenage catchers they are looking at. The other is a 15 year old from Venezuela that only the Yankees or Mets will be able to sign. Once he turns 16 this year there should be a bidding war. I forget his name, but I'll look him up. He's supposed to be a super prospect.


Maybe the Mets can sign him whiles he's still 15, MLB can find out, void the contract, then the Yankees can sign him the day he turns 16. Oh wait, that already happened with Wily Mo Pena.

I'd sign Tony Pena's son, if possible, for sure. His dad was amazing defensively. It'd be nice to groom him and it can be done slowly since he's only 16. To get a guy who is considered first round talent without using a draft pick is almost a no brainer.

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One guy is a 16 year old son of a former Major League catcher, the other was a no-talent ass clown from Cuba who lied about his age. I don't see the similarities.

Think David Parrish...
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That's a better example. There are successful offspring of former big leaguers too though.
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I don't think Parrish is a good example at all. He was a low risk, low ceiling college player typical of the "Tampa-Mafia" drafting philosophy. The two teenagers, Jesus Montero is the other guys name, both fit the mold of recent yankees draftees and signings. I haven't read too much about Pena, but Montero has Sick tools, is 6-2, 200 pounds, and probably the top international prospect this year. The only drawback is he may grow out of the catching position.
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May 25 2006, 10:40 PM
I don't think Parrish is a good example at all. He was a low risk, low ceiling college player typical of the "Tampa-Mafia" drafting philosophy. The two teenagers, Jesus Montero is the other guys name, both fit the mold of recent yankees draftees and signings. I haven't read too much about Pena, but Montero has Sick tools, is 6-2, 200 pounds, and probably the top international prospect this year. The only drawback is he may grow out of the catching position.

I'd like to get Jeff Clement from the M's. He's blocked by Jojihma.
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May 25 2006, 09:52 PM
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May 25 2006, 10:40 PM
I don't think Parrish is a good example at all.  He was a low risk, low ceiling college player typical of the "Tampa-Mafia" drafting philosophy.  The two teenagers, Jesus Montero is the other guys name, both fit the mold of recent yankees draftees and signings.  I haven't read too much about Pena, but Montero has Sick tools, is 6-2, 200 pounds, and probably the top international prospect this year.  The only drawback is he may grow out of the catching position.

I'd like to get Jeff Clement from the M's. He's blocked by Jojihma.

If a catcher with Jojima's upside was in last years draft, Clement would have been drafted over him. If Jojima was with Seattle last year, I think there would still be a good possibility they take Clement. I don't think a prospect of Clement's caliber can be blocked by a guy like Jojima. I've already heard rumors of him not working well with pitchers. Getting Clement would cost a ton.
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May 25 2006, 10:40 PM
I don't think Parrish is a good example at all. He was a low risk, low ceiling college player typical of the "Tampa-Mafia" drafting philosophy.

It's a better example than Andy Morales, who has absolutely nothing in common with Pena's son. At least Parrish was the son of a big league catcher and also a catcher himself. I agree though, this isn't using a first round pick like Parrish required.
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May 25 2006, 10:47 PM
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I don't think Parrish is a good example at all.  He was a low risk, low ceiling college player typical of the "Tampa-Mafia" drafting philosophy.

It's a better example than Andy Morales, who has absolutely nothing in common with Pena's son. At least Parrish was the son of a big league catcher and also a catcher himself. I agree though, this isn't using a first round pick like Parrish required.

So how come Pena's son doesn't live in the US? Why didn't Pena move his family here once he signed?
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It seems to me that maybe he is down there for the school year, but not some summers because Olivo mentioned he used to run into him when he'd visit KC as an American League player. You want to know my guess? Tony Pena knew his son could circumvent the draft, get a huge bonus, and choose his own destination. Guys like Rivera had their kids going to school back at home, then up here for the summer, but he switched that up after those relatives died in his pool and moved them up to Westchester with him.
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May 25 2006, 11:13 PM
It seems to me that maybe he is down there for the school year, but not some summers because Olivo mentioned he used to run into him when he'd visit KC as a American League player. You want to know my guess? Tony Pena knew his son could circumvent the draft, get a huge bonus, and choose his own destination. Guys like Rivera had their kids going to school back at home, then up here for the summer, but he switched that up after those relatives died in his pool and moved them up to Westchester with him.

I figured it was either that or a part time dad type situation because of a bad relation with the mom. I know Juan Samuels son and its kinda the latter.

Mo used to live in the same appartment building as a friend of mine here in new rochelle. Not a fancy building by any means, this was back in 96 when Mo was still making the league minimum. My buddie saw him in the loby the night of a big playoff game and got a bunch of stuff autographed. This really hot girl we both used to sweat got to baby sit his kid.
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What does your friend say about Samuel's disastrous half season as a Met? What an awful trade that was. They dealt Lenny Dykstra and Roger McDowell to Philly, played Samuel out of position in center, and then traded him immediately that offseason to LA for Alejandro Pena (one of my favorite hispanic baseball names of all-time, right up there with Hipolito Pena -- the Pena part is a coincidence) and Mike Marshall.

Nice. One of my best friends lives in Mamaroneck and sees Mo around here and there. I think he might be in Rye now, but I am not sure. I know Torre is in Harrison. I'll give you a honk when I fly by New Rochelle on Saturday on my way to Mamaroneck.

Your Francisco Pena theory is very possible too.
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Your Francisco Pena theory is very possible too.
The Kids name is Fransisco? Thats weird, thats Juan Samuel's son's first name too. We call him Cha-Chi, I don't really ask him much about his dad other than what club he's with or if he's in line for any bigger jobs.

If your taking 95 to Mamaronek get off the New Rochelle exit 16 and take post road/route 1/main street to Mamaronek. Its not much longer and you save $1.25 toll money. Tell your boy to take you to 'The Marimo'. Its type steep, but really good japanese food. Also, tell him Mamaronek is wack :peace:

On edit I'm thinking of Larchmont, but I'm pretty sure they are basically the same town.
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Yeah, didn't you read the article MM posted? That's the only way I know his name, although I have heard his son was highly sought after before.

I don't mind the $1.25 toll if it means getting there quicker. It's the gas in a Jeep and the Throgg's Neck toll that adds up. I'll ask him if he's gone to that place. We'll have to check it out another time. Not this time. This is for his daughter's 3rd birthday party. She's my goddaughter.

Yeah, they're basically the same thing. They're two towns, but right next to each other, and very similar from what I can tell. He lived in Larchmont when he was single and then when he first got married.
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May 25 2006, 11:57 PM
Yeah, didn't you read the article MM posted? That's the only way I know his name, although I have heard his son was highly sought after before.

I don't mind the $1.25 toll if it means getting there quicker. It's the gas in a Jeep and the Throgg's Neck toll that adds up. I'll ask him if he's gone to that place. We'll have to check it out another time. Not this time. This is for his daughter's 3rd birthday party. She's my goddaughter.

Yeah, they're basically the same thing. They're two towns, but right next to each other, and very similar from what I can tell. He lived in Larchmont when he was single and then when he first got married.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if Larchmont was its own town or just part of Mamaronek that they called something different. I used to work in larchmont, some of the people are kindof annoying and pretentious, but to be fair I'm programed to think that from my basebal/track days when Mamaronek was the rival school. They have some decent bars down there too, but I'm sure you've drank there if its where your friend lives.

Anyway back to baseball....There aren't any can't miss prospects in this years draft so getting one of these two guys is pretty important for the Yankees.
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My friend is from my hometown. He moved up there to get his masters degree at Manhattanville, met a really cool chick, and never left. Her family isn't snobs at all. They're middle class in a somewhat upper class town.

It seems like a no brainer. Hell, sign both, and see which one pans out best!
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May 26 2006, 12:24 AM
My friend is from my hometown. He moved up there to get his masters degree at Manhattanville, met a really cool chick, and never left. Her family isn't snobs at all. They're middle class in a somewhat upper class town.

It seems like a no brainer. Hell, sign both, and see which one pans out best!

I'm sure your boy is cool. I meant the people where I worked, which to be fair was a beach club so snobs should be expected.

I agree. Sign both. Combined they'll be way cheaper than Womack was.
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I know you didn't mean that. I meant I could see what you mean as an outsider. His street is affordable, although he still spent around half a million on it before fixing it up. They're both teachers though, nothing too crazy.

I doubt they could sign both, but that thought is sickening, right? For less money than Womack, they can sign two of the most highly sought after catching prospects.
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