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A lot of debate about the YES gun...
Topic Started: Apr 4 2006, 08:10 AM (128 Views)
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Sauces tell me that the stadium gun in Oakland had him clocked as high as 96.

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His fastball did seem to have good life, clocked as high as 96 mph on the stadium radar gun, and for much of the night his slider had enough bite to produce off-balance swings by the A's hitters.



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The game was such a blowout that it could be a mistake to make too much of Johnson's start, and still you couldn't help but notice that in the seventh inning, with his 105th pitch of the night, he threw a 95 mph fastball past Jason Kendall. The A's catcher managed to foul off the pitch to stay alive, but barely.
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Apr 4 2006, 08:10 AM
Sauces tell me that the stadium gun in Oakland had him clocked as high as 96.

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His fastball did seem to have good life, clocked as high as 96 mph on the stadium radar gun, and for much of the night his slider had enough bite to produce off-balance swings by the A's hitters.



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The game was such a blowout that it could be a mistake to make too much of Johnson's start, and still you couldn't help but notice that in the seventh inning, with his 105th pitch of the night, he threw a 95 mph fastball past Jason Kendall. The A's catcher managed to foul off the pitch to stay alive, but barely.

I read in today's paper that he hit 93
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Apr 4 2006, 09:48 AM
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Apr 4 2006, 08:10 AM
Sauces tell me that the stadium gun in Oakland had him clocked as high as 96.

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His fastball did seem to have good life, clocked as high as 96 mph on the stadium radar gun, and for much of the night his slider had enough bite to produce off-balance swings by the A's hitters.



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The game was such a blowout that it could be a mistake to make too much of Johnson's start, and still you couldn't help but notice that in the seventh inning, with his 105th pitch of the night, he threw a 95 mph fastball past Jason Kendall. The A's catcher managed to foul off the pitch to stay alive, but barely.

I read in today's paper that he hit 93

Yeah, a lot of different answers in regards to his speed. My sauce was the daily news, they quote it at 95-96 at times.
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Nigga, I know 87 when I see it. Hasn't it been proven that sports writers don't know sh*t? That fastball was so slow, Jenny Finch was sitting at home saying, "Pfff...PUSSY!" On a serious note, you can tell 95-96. It's got that wizz. Just like you don't need a stop watch to tell 4.3/40 speed. You won't have the exact number, but you know "That's fast!" What he was throwing last night was not 95-96. Might not have been 87, but it wasn't that hard. And if his heater was sizzling, then why didn't he have more than 3 strikeouts?

And we had this same discussion after game 1 last season. I said he was throwing soft against the Sox and ya'll tried to refute it saying, "Oh, it was the weather" and Rob said, "Oh, he hit 96 a few times." BAAAAAAH! Then you wait until June to realize that he's throwing like Shelly Kabrewski of the Lincoln High softball team.
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Apr 4 2006, 11:53 AM
Nigga, I know 87 when I see it. Hasn't it been proven that sports writers don't know sh*t? That fastball was so slow, Jenny Finch was sitting at home saying, "Pfff...PUSSY!" On a serious note, you can tell 95-96. It's got that wizz. Just like you don't need a stop watch to tell 4.3/40 speed. You won't have the exact number, but you know "That's fast!" What he was throwing last night was not 95-96. Might not have been 87, but it wasn't that hard. And if his heater was sizzling, then why didn't he have more than 3 strikeouts?

And we had this same discussion after game 1 last season. I said he was throwing soft against the Sox and ya'll tried to refute it saying, "Oh, it was the weather" and Rob said, "Oh, he hit 96 a few times." BAAAAAAH! Then you wait until June to realize that he's throwing like Shelly Kabrewski of the Lincoln High softball team.

Reports say the stadium gun was flashing 95-96 on the scoreboard at times, including in the 6th and 7th inning. I guess it could be bullshit, but reports state the stadium gun did show these readings. I'd say he was more around 92-93, not 87 or 88 but probably not as high as 96 either. Again, I was just sharing what this one report said.
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My guess is low 90s. He didn't look like he was throwing slow, but I don't think I buy 95 either. I read somewhere, or maybe Kay said, that Farnsworth was only throwing 91. I don't think I buy that either, Even early in the spring he looked to be close to the mid 90s. If its true then I need to know what this crap is where every pitcher we pick up throws slower when he gets here.
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I said 92, 93 last night and I stick to that. He probably had his moments of 94, 95, but it's just something you can see. The pop in the catcher's glove. The way it looks, sh*t like that.
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The A's were late on every fastball they fouled off. At worst he was between 92-94.
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Randi doesn't throw 95+ anymore, he came here and turned in to a bitch. He might've hit 96 once but it wasn't on a consistent basis. I'm guessing 89-91.
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The YES gun sucks. And their new scoreboard sucks worse.
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Apr 4 2006, 02:41 PM
Randi doesn't throw 95+ anymore, he came here and turned in to a bitch. He might've hit 96 once but it wasn't on a consistent basis. I'm guessing 89-91.

The guy was dominant last night so shut the f*ck up.
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Apr 4 2006, 10:53 AM
And if his heater was sizzling, then why didn't he have more than 3 strikeouts?

3 of the first 5 outs were K's! When the Yankees scored 17,000 runs, he changed his game plan and was getting a lot more outs earlier in the count.


Judging by all the foul balls, and how well he pitched, I say he was 91-94 all night. Most of the hits the A's got were on sliders, they didn't hit the fastball.
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Apr 4 2006, 04:50 PM
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Apr 4 2006, 10:53 AM
And if his heater was sizzling, then why didn't he have more than 3 strikeouts?

3 of the first 5 outs were K's! When the Yankees scored 17,000 runs, he changed his game plan and was getting a lot more outs earlier in the count.


Judging by all the foul balls, and how well he pitched, I say he was 91-94 all night. Most of the hits the A's got were on sliders, they didn't hit the fastball.

I thought his hits were on fastballs, since he challenged batters more like you said with the scoreboard so much in his favor, but I kinda put my brain in autodrive after the game got out of hand. I notice hitters on both sides, they would deny it, do the same and just go up there to either get a hit or make out quickly. His slider looked fairly good and his split was effective at throwing off the batters timing. He was definitely encouraging yesterday. I think it's inevitable he'll give up HRs though, since he uses the fastball so much and it doesn't have any sinking action. He gets flyouts and challenges batters= HRs will happen. I just hope he has the slider and split and locates the fastball well
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I went to sleep after the game got out of hand. I gotta wake up at 6 for classes and other sh*t. And it ain't like I'm as emotionally attached to the team game-to-game as I used to be. So I can't really speak too much on it.

Rob, why you defending him? You went out and bought #41 jersey and you don't want to sh*t on him just yet?

YF, he hit 94-97 consistently one time last season. It was a game against the Cardinals. And it could've just been FOX bullshitting cuz they want to show off their "flames" graphic.

From what I saw last night, I'd say high 80s to real low 90s was about right. His fastball didn't have more zip than Mussina's usually does so I'd say 88-91. Which still leads to the question of where the blue f*ck did his 5-6 mph go? Did he forget them in his babymomma's crib (not this one, one of them that the media ain't found out about yet) after a November 2004 booty call?

Drew, what's wrong with the score box thing? All the networks are using that and I like it. It's detailed and above the action. Every now and then, the box on the side would get in the way. The long rectangle up top doesn't. You just love to complain.
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He was around 93 all game, Strizzle. That gun was inaccurate. There were more blatant examples where a pitch was registering in the 60s and stuff.
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Apr 4 2006, 02:59 PM
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Randi doesn't throw 95+ anymore, he came here and turned in to a bitch.  He might've hit 96 once but it wasn't on a consistent basis.  I'm guessing 89-91.

The guy was dominant last night so shut the f*ck up.

I didn't say he didn't pitch well and I didn't say he isn't capable of pitching well with out the fastball. Plenty of guys have gotten by with out the 97 mph heater. I'm just saying he's not the flame thrower we thought we were getting. And last night was just one game. After last season, he's Randi until he proves otherwise.
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Apr 4 2006, 06:12 PM
He was around 93 all game, Strizzle. That gun was inaccurate. There were more blatant examples where a pitch was registering in the 60s and stuff.

I ain't believing that. That was a Mike Mussina fastball he was throwing. We'll see when he pitches somewhere else or in a game with a different network broadcast and it's still saying 88-91.
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Enough Strider, you are wrong. Harden's fastball is sizzling and the YES gun has him at 86-89!!
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Apr 4 2006, 09:56 PM
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He was around 93 all game, Strizzle. That gun was inaccurate. There were more blatant examples where a pitch was registering in the 60s and stuff.

I ain't believing that. That was a Mike Mussina fastball he was throwing. We'll see when he pitches somewhere else or in a game with a different network broadcast and it's still saying 88-91.

Agreed, the YES gun is reading the same high 80 speeds as it was for RJ. Harden is easily throwing 95-96.
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Apr 4 2006, 10:30 PM
Enough Strider, you are wrong. Harden's fastball is sizzling and the YES gun has him at 86-89!!

Wrong! He's throwing like Greg Maddux. You know why? Cuz I just drafted the mo'f*cka for my fantasy team 2 hours ago. Fortune won't let him throw 96 if he's on my team - Yankees or fantasy league.

Johnson is a bitch.
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