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Trade Idea; Good one
Topic Started: Mar 29 2006, 01:37 AM (129 Views)
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Ryan Church was optioned today. Why I can't fathom. .287, .353, .466 last year(.301 .368 .472 away from RFK). He plays all 3 outfield positions well. He could allow any of our 3 OFers to DH and hit enough to justify it. It would push Bernie into the Sierra role, which is probably best for him and the team. Not to mention Crosby wouldn't be relied on for anything except pinch running and late game defense if he was kept on the team.

Scott Proctor lowered his spring era to 1.06 with todays 5 inning, 1 run, 3 hit, 5K, 1BB performance in todays loss. He looked good for him, and Phillie can hit. Washington is pretty desperate for pitching and before you say Bowden isn't that stupid, yeah, he is. I also saw alot of pop-ups from Proctor tonight. RFK is one of the few places that can neutralize a fly ball pitcher some.

Trade em straight up. Throw in Henn or something, hell he already gave us Rasner for free(moron).
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the yankees have bubba crosby for that.
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Mar 29 2006, 03:21 AM
the yankees have bubba crosby for that.


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He could allow any of our 3 OFers to DH and hit enough to justify it.
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Not to mention Crosby wouldn't be relied on for anything except pinch running and late game defense if he was kept on the team.
See, I covered Crosby in the post :peace:
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Sounds cool - but it still won't push Bernie to the Sierra role.
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Would him being optioned mean he's for trade though? I recall his name mentioned last year as a guy of the future for them. Moving Sledge and Wilkerson certainly opens more opportunity in that crowded OF situation, especially considering Soriano and Guillen might be gone after the year.
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Nothing will push Bernie into the Sierra role. Face it, Bernie's going to play every day as long as Torre is the manager.
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Didn't I warn all you AZZNECKS about bringing Bernie back.
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Did any of you guys catch that "Yankees 2006: Pride, Power, and Pinstripes" show on YES?

The question "what wil be the biggest surprise this season?" was asked to Kay, Kenny, Kaat, and Kurcer.

Kay's answer was Bernie Williams!! He said he will get 500 AB's and put up outstanding numbers! I was laughing so hard. How could he think that?!

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The question "what wil be the biggest surprise this season?" was asked to Kay, Kenny, Kaat, and Kurcer.



You got a little carried away with your Ks.
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Mar 29 2006, 03:09 PM
Did any of you guys catch that "Yankees 2006: Pride, Power, and Pinstripes" show on YES? 

The question "what wil be the biggest surprise this season?" was asked to Kay, Kenny, Kaat, and Kurcer.

Kay's answer was Bernie Williams!!  He said he will get 500 AB's and put up outstanding numbers!  I was laughing so hard. How could he think that?!

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They pay him a damn lot of money to think that. More important question - did Raissman watch it?
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Mar 29 2006, 11:14 AM
Would him being optioned mean he's for trade though? I recall his name mentioned last year as a guy of the future for them. Moving Sledge and Wilkerson certainly opens more opportunity in that crowded OF situation, especially considering Soriano and Guillen might be gone after the year.

I was thinking the same thing, but he's 27 now. Brandon Whatson, the guy they are giving the job too, is 24. Seems like they would be doing it backwards if that was the case. I mean yeah Church has options, but he's better than alot of guys who made the 25 man. Bowden just doesn't make sence sometimes.
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I'm not pleased with Bernie getting that many at-bats, but I think we need to hold onto our real trading chips (I don't mean Proctor) for pitching. That's what will make or break us this year.
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Mar 29 2006, 02:51 PM
I'm not pleased with Bernie getting that many at-bats, but I think we need to hold onto our real trading chips (I don't mean Proctor) for pitching. That's what will make or break us this year.

Who did you mean, Henn? Proctor for Church would be fine with you right? If you think about it Church would be a trade to help the pitching. How excited do you think starting pitchers would be about Bernie Williams playing RF?
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Mar 29 2006, 03:04 PM
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Mar 29 2006, 02:51 PM
I'm not pleased with Bernie getting that many at-bats, but I think we need to hold onto our real trading chips (I don't mean Proctor) for pitching.  That's what will make or break us this year.

Who did you mean, Henn? Proctor for Church would be fine with you right? If you think about it Church would be a trade to help the pitching. How excited do you think starting pitchers would be about Bernie Williams playing RF?

Yeah, Proctor-Church is fine...I'm talking about the want to get a bigger bat. And at this point, I don't consider Henn a chip, unless it's potato.
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Mar 29 2006, 03:26 PM
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Mar 29 2006, 02:51 PM
I'm not pleased with Bernie getting that many at-bats, but I think we need to hold onto our real trading chips (I don't mean Proctor) for pitching.  That's what will make or break us this year.

Who did you mean, Henn? Proctor for Church would be fine with you right? If you think about it Church would be a trade to help the pitching. How excited do you think starting pitchers would be about Bernie Williams playing RF?

Yeah, Proctor-Church is fine...I'm talking about the want to get a bigger bat. And at this point, I don't consider Henn a chip, unless it's potato.

I didn't think you thought highly of Henn, but I had mentioned him in my original post, so I was confused a little.

I agree that any real chips need to be used for pitching. A bat isn't exactly neccesary, but keeping Crosby from batting and Bernie from playing the field(sorry Bernie) is important in my mind. Church would fulfill both of those needs, and I do consider them needs, I think you'll agree.

Also, now that I think about it. Most of our tradeable chips are pitchers at pretty high levels. Unless Thompson plays hisway into being a chip, we have Rasner(26, AAA), DeSalvo(25, AAA), Henn(24,AAA), and White(24, AA). Now my guess is Cox(22? AA?), Clippard(21, AA), Duncan, Jackson, Henry, Tabata, Garcia ect are safe this year with Cash in charge. Guys like Gardner, Battle, Schmidt(Josh, not Erick), and Christian we'll have to see. My guess is DeSalvo and Rasner both see time with the Yankees, as does Cox, and no major trades are made unless Henn and Marquez are packaged in a deal similar to the Ramirez, Sierra for Chacon trade.
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I think Henn actually has more value than we give him credit for. Didn't we refuse to include him in the Chacon deal?


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Mar 30 2006, 10:32 AM
I think Henn actually has more value than we give him credit for. Didn't we refuse to include him in the Chacon deal?

He doesn't have value to us as a player, but if he pitches a little better in Columbus than he did last year he'll fetch us something real nice. I think Cash was bluffing last year and he would have eventually included Henn, but Colorodo went for Ramirez and Sierra. I used to think he'd make a good reliever, but here doesn't seem to be the place for that to happen. That being said, Leftys that throw hard are always in demand, he's the most likely to get traded this year I think.
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Mar 30 2006, 10:42 AM
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Mar 30 2006, 10:32 AM
I think Henn actually has more value than we give him credit for. Didn't we refuse to include him in the Chacon deal?

He doesn't have value to us as a player, but if he pitches a little better in Columbus than he did last year he'll fetch us something real nice. I think Cash was bluffing last year and he would have eventually included Henn, but Colorodo went for Ramirez and Sierra. I used to think he'd make a good reliever, but here doesn't seem to be the place for that to happen. That being said, Leftys that throw hard are always in demand, he's the most likely to get traded this year I think.

He needs to pitch a lot better. He was atrocious this spring too.
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Mar 30 2006, 10:46 AM
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Mar 30 2006, 10:42 AM
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Mar 30 2006, 10:32 AM
I think Henn actually has more value than we give him credit for. Didn't we refuse to include him in the Chacon deal?

He doesn't have value to us as a player, but if he pitches a little better in Columbus than he did last year he'll fetch us something real nice. I think Cash was bluffing last year and he would have eventually included Henn, but Colorodo went for Ramirez and Sierra. I used to think he'd make a good reliever, but here doesn't seem to be the place for that to happen. That being said, Leftys that throw hard are always in demand, he's the most likely to get traded this year I think.

He needs to pitch a lot better. He was atrocious this spring too.

Eh, spring is spring. I've come to terms with the fact that Henn isn't going to do anything for the New York Yankees because of the walks and mental problems. He did however pitch to a 0.71 in 25 innings with Trenton and a 3.23 in 86 innings with Columbus. His K and BB rates were both pretty good as well. The fact that he's left handed instantly makes him a chip with those numbers. He'll be 25 this year. Somebody will take a shot. We got lucky with Chacon, realistically Henn will get us more than Ramirez/Sierra. Obviously if he pitches like he did this spring he's worthless, but I think he'll once again put it together for a good minor league season.
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