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RJ's Pitching For Us on ESPN2; Against Minny
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.
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Thought Cano had himself a hit there.
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Now that I'm paying attention to it, Silva throws some weak off-speed as well as his normal sinking fastballs. He's location, location, location. In terms of stuff, you will never watch this guy and expect to get shut down by him.
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.

On the outside corner, sure, you go the other way most of the time(although Bernie hooked an outside sinker nicely into right for his RBI), but what I was responding to was you saying he probably tried to pull a sinker, which isn't a bad approach. Pulling and grounding good sinkers into the dirt are usually the only way to hit them; that's why sinkerballers are usually so effective, since the best you can do is groundout.
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Terry Tiffee with a solo HR :-|
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That was a terrible pitch by Randi, good thing it's only Spring Training.
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That was a terrible pitch by Randi, good thing it's only Spring Training.

I want them to replay the pitch. Tiffee took a bad swing, but it just hung over the plate, he was able to basically improvise and hook it. It was either a hanging slider or just a really bad split
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Your boy is 0 for 3. I can really see why you want him over Thompson though.
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This is annoying me. He's not a sinking fastball pitcher. I know he's been effective this way, but this isn't the type of pitching I could trust. This is basically the same Randy we got in the playoffs, only more in command of his fastball on this particular occassion. Still leaving the occassional meatball, as evident by that HR. If he was just getting that slider to bite and get bats swinging, his effectiveness is so much better.
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Phillips with a double opposite way
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Your boy is 0 for 3. I can really see why you want him over Thompson though.

Hustle is more important than skill. :yes:

Whats he down to now? .120?
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.

On the outside corner, sure, you go the other way most of the time(although Bernie hooked an outside sinker nicely into right for his RBI), but what I was responding to was you saying he probably tried to pull a sinker, which isn't a bad approach. Pulling and grounding good sinkers into the dirt are usually the only way to hit them; that's why sinkerballers are usually so effective, since the best you can do is groundout.

oh, i got ya. I didn't actually see the pitch, just the defensive part of the play. What pitch did he take the other way? was it still Silva?
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.

On the outside corner, sure, you go the other way most of the time(although Bernie hooked an outside sinker nicely into right for his RBI), but what I was responding to was you saying he probably tried to pull a sinker, which isn't a bad approach. Pulling and grounding good sinkers into the dirt are usually the only way to hit them; that's why sinkerballers are usually so effective, since the best you can do is groundout.

oh, i got ya. I didn't actually see the pitch, just the defensive part of the play. What pitch did he take the other way? was it still Silva?

What I didn't like was his first AB, getting blown away by a sinkerballer leaving one up. That's just bad. Showed his lack of discipline. Really bad pitch to K with. Then, he took weak hacks his second AB. In his third AB, he doubled the opposite way against Willie Eyre. We'll have to wait to the season. Sometimes this guy looks so friggin ugly, but then next thing he's getting hits and putting up great minor league numbers. And when I say ugly, I'm not refering to how sluggers can strikeout and look overmatched at times. He genuinely looks like he shouldn't be at the plate with some ABs he puts up. That 5 strikeout game against Tampa Bay; not even Soriano looked that ugly or overmatched.
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.

On the outside corner, sure, you go the other way most of the time(although Bernie hooked an outside sinker nicely into right for his RBI), but what I was responding to was you saying he probably tried to pull a sinker, which isn't a bad approach. Pulling and grounding good sinkers into the dirt are usually the only way to hit them; that's why sinkerballers are usually so effective, since the best you can do is groundout.

oh, i got ya. I didn't actually see the pitch, just the defensive part of the play. What pitch did he take the other way? was it still Silva?

What I didn't like was his first AB, getting blown away by a sinkerballer leaving one up. That's just bad. Showed his lack of discipline. Really bad pitch to K with. Then, he took weak hacks his second AB. In his third AB, he doubled the opposite way against Willie Eyre. We'll have to wait to the season. Sometimes this guy looks so friggin ugly, but then next thing he's getting hits and putting up great minor league numbers. And when I say ugly, I'm not refering to how sluggers can strikeout and look overmatched at times. He genuinely looks like he shouldn't be at the plate with some ABs he puts up. That 5 strikeout game against Tampa Bay; not even Soriano looked that ugly or overmatched.

He needs to make sure his swing doesn't get too long and he doesn't roll over his wrists. If he gets lazy or anxious he's toast. If he can stay inside the ball (like the video of that homerun he hit against Tampa) then he'll do some damage. He's not going to hit .280 or anything, but he'll hit mistakes and some good fastballs. He'll also slump here and there. Hopefully he has a good head and doesn't get frusrtated knowing he can't do what he did in AAA. He isn't going to hit good pitching great. Who started that 5 K game he had, Kazmir?
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Phillips grounds out weakly. He looks back to what I expect.

What does Silva throw again? He's not a fastball guy if I remember right. Can't say i've paid much attention to him outside W/L record.

That's all Silva throws is fastballs basically. He's a finesse sinkerballer.

Probably tried to pull the sinker. Never a good idea :no1: As long as he starts and pinch hits enough against fastball pitchers he won't be completely worthless. I could be wrong on that though.

You can pull a sinker.

Coaches used to warn me about trying to pull sinkers on the outside corner. Its a better pitch to go with I thought.

On the outside corner, sure, you go the other way most of the time(although Bernie hooked an outside sinker nicely into right for his RBI), but what I was responding to was you saying he probably tried to pull a sinker, which isn't a bad approach. Pulling and grounding good sinkers into the dirt are usually the only way to hit them; that's why sinkerballers are usually so effective, since the best you can do is groundout.

oh, i got ya. I didn't actually see the pitch, just the defensive part of the play. What pitch did he take the other way? was it still Silva?

What I didn't like was his first AB, getting blown away by a sinkerballer leaving one up. That's just bad. Showed his lack of discipline. Really bad pitch to K with. Then, he took weak hacks his second AB. In his third AB, he doubled the opposite way against Willie Eyre. We'll have to wait to the season. Sometimes this guy looks so friggin ugly, but then next thing he's getting hits and putting up great minor league numbers. And when I say ugly, I'm not refering to how sluggers can strikeout and look overmatched at times. He genuinely looks like he shouldn't be at the plate with some ABs he puts up. That 5 strikeout game against Tampa Bay; not even Soriano looked that ugly or overmatched.

He needs to make sure his swing doesn't get too long and he doesn't roll over his wrists. If he gets lazy or anxious he's toast. If he can stay inside the ball (like the video of that homerun he hit against Tampa) then he'll do some damage. He's not going to hit .280 or anything, but he'll hit mistakes and some good fastballs. He'll also slump here and there. Hopefully he has a good head and doesn't get frusrtated knowing he can't do what he did in AAA. He isn't going to hit good pitching great. Who started that 5 K game he had, Kazmir?

I don't remember, but he wouldn't have hit anyone that day. His minor league stats seem to indicate he has some discipline, but he demonstrated none and hasn't demonstrated much yet. Perhaps there was the fear factor in the minors. He needs to lay off more pitches or he won't see anything to hit once it gets around he extends the zone. And I don't believe he has that Dominican ability to hit pitches out of the strikezone.
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