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Jan 29 2006, 10:34 PM
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Giambi will have to DH a lot and Torre will play Sheffield/Matsui there to give them half days off. There's a chance Bernie would play LF, but I doubt we'll see him much in RF, so he'd be on the bench all of those games.
OK, we will pro-rate both players stats to 500ab's. That's fair in case bernie gets less at bats or in case Thomas gets hurt part of the year. Deal? :dunno:
I'll sweeten the deal too. If I lose, I'll buy you a cold one at any local pub you specify and I'll buy any of the other BAS guys (like BC or CM) who show up then and there a cold one too. If I win you just buy me a beer at whatever local Pub you say. I'm buying a house down that way so I'll most likely be around. ;)
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Jan 29 2006, 11:02 PM
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:07 PM
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
:please: $2,000,000 or $2, it doesn't matter to me. He's taking the roster spot of what undoubtedly would have been a much more capable player. He should have had the sense and class to leave after last season... sentimentality aside, he'll be the worst DH in the AL. :agent:
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Jan 29 2006, 11:25 PM
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
Agreed. Your example of overpaid is actually understated. Park was making $13 million a year, which was complete silliness. Bernie is making $2 million in what is probably his last season and they guys not only bitch, but put down Bernie as a money grubbing whore. They're jokes.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:34 PM
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
Agreed. Your example of overpaid is actually understated. Park was making $13 million a year, which was complete silliness. Bernie is making $2 million in what is probably his last season and they guys not only bitch, but put down Bernie as a money grubbing whore. They're jokes.
:please: Stop with the "these guys" generalizations. I never called him a money grubbing whore. I think he's taking a roster spot of what would have probably been a better more productive player, when he should have retired. That position is entirely reasonable. :peace:
So, are we on with the bet Matty?
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Jan 29 2006, 11:44 PM
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150 ABs? I wish... Bernie will get 300-400 ABs more than likely. Something that should make every Yankee fan sick to his/her stomach.
Why do you guys constantly ignore the countless breakdowns of last years DHs that people have put up? Who was our everyday DH last season? Bernie isn't getting 300 ABs unless something goes really really wrong.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:46 PM
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150 ABs? I wish... Bernie will get 300-400 ABs more than likely. Something that should make every Yankee fan sick to his/her stomach.
Why do you guys constantly ignore the countless breakdowns of last years DHs that people have put up? Who was our everyday DH last season? Bernie isn't getting 300 ABs unless something goes really really wrong.
I don't agree there. Bernie will definitely see more ABs. As it is, he's penciled in as DH. Plus, the starts for Damon, and with only crap Crosby as the other backup alternative, I can see LF- Bernie, CF- Damon, RF- Matsui when Sheffield DHs. He SHOULD get no more than 150, like you said, but seeing how they never addressed the hole at DH or got a viable backup OF to complement, Torre's going to put him in there. Again, BC, I apologize for being naive that they would use Bernie like Sierra.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:55 PM
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150 ABs? I wish... Bernie will get 300-400 ABs more than likely. Something that should make every Yankee fan sick to his/her stomach.
Why do you guys constantly ignore the countless breakdowns of last years DHs that people have put up? Who was our everyday DH last season? Bernie isn't getting 300 ABs unless something goes really really wrong.
I don't agree there. Bernie will definitely see more ABs. As it is, he's penciled in as DH. Plus, the starts for Damon, and with only crap Crosby as the other backup alternative, I can see LF- Bernie, CF- Damon, RF- Matsui when Sheffield DHs. He SHOULD get no more than 150, like you said, but seeing how they never addressed the hole at DH or got a viable backup OF to complement, Torre's going to put him in there. Again, BC, I apologize for being naive that they would use Bernie like Sierra.
I'm not into assuming that no deals will be made at any point during the season if Bernie/Phillips are completely helpless. 300 ABs seems like a rediculous assumption to me unless he can somehow manage a .350 plus obp and hit for some power. I also have faith that Crosby will go away at some point.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:57 PM
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150 ABs? I wish... Bernie will get 300-400 ABs more than likely. Something that should make every Yankee fan sick to his/her stomach.
Why do you guys constantly ignore the countless breakdowns of last years DHs that people have put up? Who was our everyday DH last season? Bernie isn't getting 300 ABs unless something goes really really wrong.
I don't agree there. Bernie will definitely see more ABs. As it is, he's penciled in as DH. Plus, the starts for Damon, and with only crap Crosby as the other backup alternative, I can see LF- Bernie, CF- Damon, RF- Matsui when Sheffield DHs. He SHOULD get no more than 150, like you said, but seeing how they never addressed the hole at DH or got a viable backup OF to complement, Torre's going to put him in there. Again, BC, I apologize for being naive that they would use Bernie like Sierra.
I'm not into assuming that no deals will be made at any point during the season if Bernie/Phillips are completely helpless. 300 ABs seems like a rediculous assumption to me unless he can somehow manage a .350 plus obp and hit for some power. I also have faith that Crosby will go away at some point.
I'd like to think that. It makes sense.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:57 PM
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Just to add to my last post, my whole point is they are saying "Cashman called bernie the EVERYDAY DH, that means he'll start every game there and get 350-400 ABs....they SHOULD know that the DH position doesn't work like that.
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Jan 29 2006, 11:59 PM
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Just to add to my last post, my whole point is they are saying "Cashman called bernie the EVERYDAY DH, that means he'll start every game there and get 350-400 ABs....they SHOULD know that the DH position doesn't work like that.
Agreed, but it works as an opening automatically for basically Phillips, Bernie, and Crosby to get ABs whether in the field when someone DHs or at that spot which doesn't have a fill.
Just thought of something. Could you see Miguel Cairo stealing ABs? I forgot about him for the most part. He's competent and gives the bottom a better look than straight hit or miss guys. Only prob would be we'd need a new Util IF
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Jan 30 2006, 12:07 AM
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Just to add to my last post, my whole point is they are saying "Cashman called bernie the EVERYDAY DH, that means he'll start every game there and get 350-400 ABs....they SHOULD know that the DH position doesn't work like that.
Agreed, but it works as an opening automatically for basically Phillips, Bernie, and Crosby to get ABs whether in the field when someone DHs or at that spot which doesn't have a fill. Just thought of something. Could you see Miguel Cairo stealing ABs? I forgot about him for the most part. He's competent and gives the bottom a better look than straight hit or miss guys. Only prob would be we'd need a new Util IF
well yeah, but its one lineup spot no matter who is DHing. Well except for Stinnett days, then its two lineup spots. 7 or 8 of our 9 spots are very good. I can deal with a Phillips experiment and Bernie getting some ABs. Crosby I can't live with, but like I said I have faith something will be done about that pissant.
With Cairo do you mean DH ABs? Thats a good question, I wonder. To be completely honest I can't see him out producing Bernie/Phillips. He doesn't K much, but he rarely gets on base in general and has no power. Situationally I can see him being a better option off the bench when you need a pesky hitter, but as far as starting games I don't know.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:10 AM
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Homie, apparently the roster on January 29 will be the postseason roster. Teams never tinker with rosters during the season if things aren't working out. Apparently you also need 9 top hitters to win in this league.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:13 AM
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Just to add to my last post, my whole point is they are saying "Cashman called bernie the EVERYDAY DH, that means he'll start every game there and get 350-400 ABs....they SHOULD know that the DH position doesn't work like that.
Agreed, but it works as an opening automatically for basically Phillips, Bernie, and Crosby to get ABs whether in the field when someone DHs or at that spot which doesn't have a fill. Just thought of something. Could you see Miguel Cairo stealing ABs? I forgot about him for the most part. He's competent and gives the bottom a better look than straight hit or miss guys. Only prob would be we'd need a new Util IF
well yeah, but its one lineup spot no matter who is DHing. Well except for Stinnett days, then its two lineup spots. 7 or 8 of our 9 spots are very good. I can deal with a Phillips experiment and Bernie getting some ABs. Crosby I can't live with, but like I said I have faith something will be done about that pissant. With Cairo do you mean DH ABs? Thats a good question, I wonder. To be completely honest I can't see him out producing Bernie/Phillips. He doesn't K much, but he rarely gets on base in general and has no power. Situationally I can see him being a better option off the bench when you need a pesky hitter, but as far as starting games I don't know.
Cairo can play 1B and OF, so I'm thinking he might be a better option than Crosby, Phillips or Bernie when they DH guys liks Sheff and Matsui. He puts the ball in play, and who knows, maybe we get him to produce like he did 2 seasons ago. I wouldn't mind him getting ABs as long as he's not shitting up the place.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:14 AM
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Homie, apparently the roster on January 29 will be the postseason roster. Teams never tinker with rosters during the season if things aren't working out. Apparently you also need 9 top hitters to win in this league.
I agreed that best case cenerio would have been Bernie retiring since he doesn't offer much flexibility, but I really don't think 300 ABs is realistic, especially if Phillips is going to get a real shot.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:19 AM
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We can say 150 times every single day and these guys (YB, you call yourself a part of a kiddie club like the VC, you're going to be referred to as "these guys") will keep saying he will get 350+ at bats. Only time will tell, but I think we'll be closer to being right.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:23 AM
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Just to add to my last post, my whole point is they are saying "Cashman called bernie the EVERYDAY DH, that means he'll start every game there and get 350-400 ABs....they SHOULD know that the DH position doesn't work like that.
Agreed, but it works as an opening automatically for basically Phillips, Bernie, and Crosby to get ABs whether in the field when someone DHs or at that spot which doesn't have a fill. Just thought of something. Could you see Miguel Cairo stealing ABs? I forgot about him for the most part. He's competent and gives the bottom a better look than straight hit or miss guys. Only prob would be we'd need a new Util IF
well yeah, but its one lineup spot no matter who is DHing. Well except for Stinnett days, then its two lineup spots. 7 or 8 of our 9 spots are very good. I can deal with a Phillips experiment and Bernie getting some ABs. Crosby I can't live with, but like I said I have faith something will be done about that pissant. With Cairo do you mean DH ABs? Thats a good question, I wonder. To be completely honest I can't see him out producing Bernie/Phillips. He doesn't K much, but he rarely gets on base in general and has no power. Situationally I can see him being a better option off the bench when you need a pesky hitter, but as far as starting games I don't know.
Cairo can play 1B and OF, so I'm thinking he might be a better option than Crosby, Phillips or Bernie when they DH guys liks Sheff and Matsui. He puts the ball in play, and who knows, maybe we get him to produce like he did 2 seasons ago. I wouldn't mind him getting ABs as long as he's not shitting up the place.
I don't know man, he was pretty terrible last year. And you can't even really blame it on lack of protection because he actually hit better 8th than he did 2nd, alot better. I think we may have gotten lucky in 04. I wouldn't DH him, but I'd deff consider playing him in RF if it means Crosby doesn't have to hit. And of course if Phillips is worse at the plate which I doubt then I would play him at 1B over Phillips.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:27 AM
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I'm just thinking that Bernie is only one season removed from 88 walks and a .360 obp.
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85 walks, my bad.
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I'm just thinking that Bernie is only one season removed from 88 walks and a .360 obp.
He can still walk, that's true, but with him and Posada, at least him last year, their patience is overrated. They work walks because they aren't wild-swingers, but they will chase and make out on crap against good pitching. Plus, you gotta assume the AVG isn't getting better.
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I'm just thinking that Bernie is only one season removed from 88 walks and a .360 obp.
He can still walk, that's true, but with him and Posada, at least him last year, their patience is overrated. They work walks because they aren't wild-swingers, but they will chase and make out on crap against good pitching. Plus, you gotta assume the AVG isn't getting better.
For that spot I don't really care about the average though. Especially when Cairo hit 3 points higher last season and Bernie's OBP was like 30 points higher. Plus Bernie and to a greater extent Phillips can both put one out every now ant then, Cairo can't. I see Cairo as a tough strikeout off the bench or the starting 2Bman against a really really hard lefty.
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I'm just thinking that Bernie is only one season removed from 88 walks and a .360 obp.
He can still walk, that's true, but with him and Posada, at least him last year, their patience is overrated. They work walks because they aren't wild-swingers, but they will chase and make out on crap against good pitching. Plus, you gotta assume the AVG isn't getting better.
For that spot I don't really care about the average though. Especially when Cairo hit 3 points higher last season and Bernie's OBP was like 30 points higher. Plus Bernie and to a greater extent Phillips can both put one out every now ant then, Cairo can't. I see Cairo as a tough strikeout off the bench or the starting 2Bman against a really really hard lefty.
With Bernie, he might draw a walk bases empty, but he will most likely pop up or strikeout with guys on base. That's why I don't like him there; he will kill rallies. Against a pure fastball pitcher though, I like Bernie, so that's why I wanted him for the bench like Sierra.
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How many 8 or 9 hitters in the league don't kill rallies? What's next, complaining about the equipment manager? Maybe they should upgrade the ballboy position. Skippy isn't cutting it.
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
Agreed. Your example of overpaid is actually understated. Park was making $13 million a year, which was complete silliness. Bernie is making $2 million in what is probably his last season and they guys not only bitch, but put down Bernie as a money grubbing whore. They're jokes.
$13 million, wow, now THAT'S stealing money...Blast Wright, blast Pavano, those two are very well documented in their bashings to Mussina, Jeter...Ah whats the use of naming specific players, they bash every player regardless, two weeks into the year Damon will be in the "Soft L Club", hell even BC blasted Don Mattingly...They are a joke, they have to find a reason to complain on every little thing, it gets comical watching these two, just agreeing and agreeing with eachother as if they are lovers.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:54 AM
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Joe Crede and Bill Mueller are number 8 hitters that come to mind that helped their teams greatly recently. The Yankee teams of old with Brosius down there with his clutch hitting and guys like Ledee and Spencer helped as well, I'd say. Tino not hitting a few 88 mph fastball down the middle in the playoffs really brought out the need to fill every lineup spot. Conceding outs is never a good thing, especially with a hit or miss team.
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Jan 30 2006, 12:59 AM
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I'd rather none of them, but Cairo would be that pesky guy you can put in there occassionally to breakup all the hit or miss hitters. You saw what that gets ya when the team is missing.
yeah, but judging by the career numbers, unless we get the 04 Cairo, your talking about a strikeout vs a growndout...atleast Bernie takes pitches and will take a walk.
Yeah, but Bernie doesn't strike me as the tough out working a walk anymore. I dont want you thinking I'm on the Cairo getting 300 AB bandwagon whatsoever. This is an indictment on the other guys moreso
Oh no, I didn't think that at all. I'm just thinking that Bernie is only one season removed from 88 walks and a .360 obp.
He can still walk, that's true, but with him and Posada, at least him last year, their patience is overrated. They work walks because they aren't wild-swingers, but they will chase and make out on crap against good pitching. Plus, you gotta assume the AVG isn't getting better.
For that spot I don't really care about the average though. Especially when Cairo hit 3 points higher last season and Bernie's OBP was like 30 points higher. Plus Bernie and to a greater extent Phillips can both put one out every now ant then, Cairo can't. I see Cairo as a tough strikeout off the bench or the starting 2Bman against a really really hard lefty.
With Bernie, he might draw a walk bases empty, but he will most likely pop up or strikeout with guys on base. That's why I don't like him there; he will kill rallies. Against a pure fastball pitcher though, I like Bernie, so that's why I wanted him for the bench like Sierra.
Cairo hit .228 with runners on last year. Bernie was around .280 with 8 of his 12 homers coming in those situations. Even in his bad years he's been ok-good in big ABs(post season anyway)
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Jan 30 2006, 12:59 AM
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Bernie is making a measly $2 million a year and you two are throwing a hissy fit, unreal.
This isn't Chan Ho Park and his 5+ ERA making 11 million per.
This is probably Bernie's last season, hopefully he can leave a World Series champ...But for you two to just turn your back on what he's done for this organization and blast him as if he was starting every day making $15 million a year is a total joke.
Plain out pathetic.
Agreed. Your example of overpaid is actually understated. Park was making $13 million a year, which was complete silliness. Bernie is making $2 million in what is probably his last season and they guys not only bitch, but put down Bernie as a money grubbing whore. They're jokes.
$13 million, wow, now THAT'S stealing money...Blast Wright, blast Pavano, those two are very well documented in their bashings to Mussina, Jeter...Ah whats the use of naming specific players, they bash every player regardless, two weeks into the year Damon will be in the "Soft L Club", hell even BC blasted Don Mattingly...They are a joke, they have to find a reason to complain on every little thing, it gets comical watching these two, just agreeing and agreeing with eachother as if they are lovers.
Bernie was paid $12 mil last year to hit .242 then thinks he has a right to come back this season. Screw that, getting paid $2 mil to bat .230 or less this season is plain out pathetic, not bashing Bernie. I'm sure you'll be one of those fans giving him a standing o every ab he has though, even after he grounds in to dp after dp in big spots. I on the other hand will be booing for being the money grubbing whore that he is.
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