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Another reason I hate NL baseball
Topic Started: Jun 7 2005, 09:49 PM (186 Views)
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Pavano should be out there for the 7th. They pinch hit Tino instead. Tino popped up. Now Pavano is gone and for what? I hate it!
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Jun 7 2005, 09:49 PM
Pavano should be out there for the 7th.  They pinch hit Tino instead.  Tino popped up.  Now Pavano is gone and for what?  I hate it!

MM and I were just talking about this in the game thread, so true! P Diddy was cruising, he was game for the 7th inning! Stupid NL Baseball!
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To make it worse, Tanyon is not available tonight, so we have to suffer through Quantrill. So Tino, who is ice cold thanks to Torre and Giambi for ruining his mojo in the middle of a hot streak, goes up and pinch hits for Pavano on the chance he'll break out of his slump, but at the expense of Pavano when Quantrill is the best option to replace him on the mound. Again, I hate the NL.
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Jun 7 2005, 09:50 PM
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Jun 7 2005, 09:49 PM
Pavano should be out there for the 7th.  They pinch hit Tino instead.  Tino popped up.  Now Pavano is gone and for what?  I hate it!

MM and I were just talking about this in the game thread, so true! P Diddy was cruising, he was game for the 7th inning! Stupid NL Baseball!

:please: at least Sheets is out too. :peace:
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Jun 7 2005, 09:49 PM
Pavano should be out there for the 7th.  They pinch hit Tino instead.  Tino popped up.  Now Pavano is gone and for what?  I hate it!

MM and I were just talking about this in the game thread, so true! P Diddy was cruising, he was game for the 7th inning! Stupid NL Baseball!

:please: at least Sheets is out too. :peace:

Too bad though, the Brewers could have me pitch and the Yanks couldn't touch me. :no1:
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Jun 7 2005, 09:49 PM
Pavano should be out there for the 7th.  They pinch hit Tino instead.  Tino popped up.  Now Pavano is gone and for what?  I hate it!

MM and I were just talking about this in the game thread, so true! P Diddy was cruising, he was game for the 7th inning! Stupid NL Baseball!

:please: at least Sheets is out too. :peace:

Too bad though, the Brewers could have me pitch and the Yanks couldn't touch me. :no1:

The only guy I'd even fear is Giambi, he might walk against me. :scared:
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Pavano should be out there for the 7th.  They pinch hit Tino instead.  Tino popped up.  Now Pavano is gone and for what?  I hate it!

MM and I were just talking about this in the game thread, so true! P Diddy was cruising, he was game for the 7th inning! Stupid NL Baseball!

:please: at least Sheets is out too. :peace:

Too bad though, the Brewers could have me pitch and the Yanks couldn't touch me. :no1:

[size=14]you right on dat! [/size] :rock:
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:please: at least Sheets is out too. :peace:

Yeah, but he was pretty much on a pitch count anyway as he comes back from his illness, and the Milwaukee bullpen has been doing well this year too, although people would call them all trash here because they'd never give them a shot to pitch without making judgements.
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pavano is a baseball player, therefore he should hit. Hampton doesnt go through that kind of sh*t.
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:please:  at least Sheets is out too.  :peace:

Yeah, but he was pretty much on a pitch count anyway as he comes back from his illness, and the Milwaukee bullpen has been doing well this year too, although people would call them all trash here because they'd never give them a shot to pitch without making judgements.


don't look at me. i call 'em (fairly), as i see them.

(Don't forget, I'm the one along with Matty who's been preaching to bring up the kids :peace: )
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Jun 7 2005, 10:03 PM
pavano is a baseball player, therefore he should hit. Hampton doesnt go through that kind of sh*t.

Whatever. There's maybe 3 GOOD hitting pitchers. I don't consider .150 good.
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Blah blah blah. You all say you hate NL baseball because you're a fan of an AL team.

We, on the other hand, like NL baseball better because we're a fan of an NL team. That's how it works. I wouldn't expect anything less from a fan of an AL team.
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pavano is a baseball player, therefore he should hit. Hampton doesnt go through that kind of sh*t.

Whatever. There's maybe 3 GOOD hitting pitchers. I don't consider .150 good.

Regardless of his average he puts a good cut on the ball.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:09 PM
Blah blah blah. You all say you hate NL baseball because you're a fan of an AL team.

We, on the other hand, like NL baseball better because we're a fan of an NL team. That's how it works. I wouldn't expect anything less from a fan of an AL team.

Exactly, you like what you are used to!!!!!!! That's why interleague play BLOWS. I've never been a fan of it. EVER.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:09 PM
Blah blah blah. You all say you hate NL baseball because you're a fan of an AL team.

We, on the other hand, like NL baseball better because we're a fan of an NL team. That's how it works. I wouldn't expect anything less from a fan of an AL team.

Whatever, I am a BASEBALL fan. I watch all levels. I don't like seeing the pitcher hit, period. My Dad was 26 when the AL adopted the DH, and he hates the pitcher hitting. Fine, I will revise that. I don't hate NL baseball. I hate the pitcher hitting. If I were a fan of an NL team, I'd hate the pitcher hitting. I know AL, Yankee fans who would prefer the pitcher hitting. I think Terp dislikes the DH and likes the pitcher hitting. I agree with him on most things, but not this.
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pavano is a baseball player, therefore he should hit. Hampton doesnt go through that kind of sh*t.

Whatever. There's maybe 3 GOOD hitting pitchers. I don't consider .150 good.

Regardless of his average he puts a good cut on the ball.

Moron, I know Hampton is a good hitter. I am saying there are maybe 3 good hitters, including him. I could do without watching Al Leiter hit, even though he is an all-time favorite of mine.
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maybe we should have a designated fielder stand next to the pitcher and take over once he throws a pitch. That way you dont have to see crap defense from the pitcher.
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Forgetting the strategy debate, it would be much easier for all of baseball to ditch the DH. It would mean that low budget teams wouldn't have to pay another everyday player.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:14 PM
maybe we should have a designated fielder stand next to the pitcher and take over once he throws a pitch. That way you dont have to see crap defense from the pitcher.

Go away. I didn't mean to offend little 16 year old Met fans with this thread. If I meant that, I would have posted in in the Mets forum.

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Forgetting the strategy debate, it would be much easier for all of baseball to ditch the DH. It would mean that low budget teams wouldn't have to pay another everyday player.


That's certainly true, but it will chap my ass for the rest of my existence on this lovely planet.
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I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?
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I see it both way, I just happen to like the DH better. I don't get any joy out of the double switches or watching a below pitcher hit. Give me the DH anyday of the week.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:21 PM
I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?

Unless you have someone like Mike Piazza DHing (the Piazza of '99-00). That always worked well for the Mets. Keep Piazza's bat in the lineup but save him from having to catch the whole game. Therefore, have a better defensive catcher but not having to sacrifice Piazza's bat.
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the second one of course, but that rarely happens a lot of teams have good dh type players that play a position only because there is no dh... piazza, floyd, pujols (could be argued), bagwell.

The thing that the dh does the most is that it improves defense.
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Jun 7 2005, 10:23 PM
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I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?

Unless you have someone like Mike Piazza DHing (the Piazza of '99-00). That always worked well for the Mets. Keep Piazza's bat in the lineup but save him from having to catch the whole game. Therefore, have a better defensive catcher but not having to sacrifice Piazza's bat.

Which meant that Vance Wilson/Todd Pratt was hitting, putting the Mets at a disadvantage against teams like the M's.
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I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?

Unless you have someone like Mike Piazza DHing (the Piazza of '99-00). That always worked well for the Mets. Keep Piazza's bat in the lineup but save him from having to catch the whole game. Therefore, have a better defensive catcher but not having to sacrifice Piazza's bat.

Which meant that Vance Wilson/Todd Pratt was hitting, putting the Mets at a disadvantage against teams like the M's.

Yeah, I guess. But it was still nice to have Piazza's bat in the lineup and at the same time, have someone behind the plate who could throw runners out.
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I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?

Unless you have someone like Mike Piazza DHing (the Piazza of '99-00). That always worked well for the Mets. Keep Piazza's bat in the lineup but save him from having to catch the whole game. Therefore, have a better defensive catcher but not having to sacrifice Piazza's bat.

Which meant that Vance Wilson/Todd Pratt was hitting, putting the Mets at a disadvantage against teams like the M's.

not true, lets say it was the m's of two years ago, edgar was the dh which is basiclly what piazza is. In the N.L. they wouldve used edgar in the outfield decreasing their defense, instead they get to use randy winn. Having a guy like Vance Wilson in the game without taking away a big bat such as mike's is a huge advantage. Its like getting Mike piazza with gold glove defense.
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not true, lets say it was the m's of two years ago, edgar was the dh which is basiclly what piazza is. In the N.L. they wouldve used edgar in the outfield decreasing their defense, instead they get to use randy winn. Having a guy like Vance Wilson in the game without taking away a big bat such as mike's is a huge advantage. Its like getting Mike piazza with gold glove defense.

You're so clueless, it's not even funny. Edgar was a 3B, then his legs were shot to the point he couldn't even play there with no DH. He'd play 1B sometimes in the NL parks, but he couldn't play the OF. Where do you come up with this sh*t?
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I ain't even gonna read this thread because I already know there's a bunch of reasons why the NL is stupid.
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Jun 7 2005, 11:13 PM
I ain't even gonna read this thread because I already know there's a bunch of reasons why the NL is stupid.

They say ignorance is bliss.....
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I can see the arguments for and against the DH. Personally, I prefer NL style baseball, pretty much because I'm used to it.

This is one of my big pet peeves, when people talk about NL teams having an advantage beause their pitchers can hit.

Tell me, which is the bigger advantage during interleague play? A .150 hitting pitcher against a .050 hitting pitcher or an everyday DH against the backup catcher or bench player that NL teams insert in the DH spot?

Unless you have someone like Mike Piazza DHing (the Piazza of '99-00). That always worked well for the Mets. Keep Piazza's bat in the lineup but save him from having to catch the whole game. Therefore, have a better defensive catcher but not having to sacrifice Piazza's bat.

Which meant that Vance Wilson/Todd Pratt was hitting, putting the Mets at a disadvantage against teams like the M's.

There is no disadvantage for the NL team.
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