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i hate boras
Topic Started: May 15 2005, 04:53 PM (330 Views)
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May 15 2005, 07:45 PM
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May 15 2005, 07:39 PM
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May 15 2005, 07:32 PM
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May 15 2005, 07:30 PM
w/ RISP:

.382 AVG
.450 OBP
.618 SLG
1.068 OPS
2 2B
2 HR
14 RBI
13 H
19 R
In 34 at-bats

w/ Runners on base:

.391 AVG
.449 OBP
.710 SLG
1.159 OPS
4 2B
6 HR
23 RBI
27 H
23 R
In 69 at-bats

w/ Runners on base with 2 outs:

.455 AVG
.556 OBP
.864 SLG
1.419 OPS
3 HR
7 RBI
10 H
9 R
In 22 at-bats

Any questions?

yes what was the score?

who was the pitcher?

When RISP did he get them home on every hit or did he get a cheap infield single?

Pete, you could ask the same questions about any hitter. If they did a breakdown on Pujols or Bonds, would you still be on that?

no because they ARE clutch, teams are genuinly scared of them and they are clutch as hell. Stats do lie sometimes, and beltran is one of those players who gets empty stats.

Well, from what I've heard from other teams' announcers, Beltran induces fear into other pitchers.

Don't forget, I watch MLB Extra Innings to get my Mets games. And sometimes they're on other teams' broadcasts.
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Answer the selfish thing!
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i wasnt here calm your tits, there is a whole other thread devoted to you in another forum that you have seen but yet to answer.

he is selfish because he doesnt move runners over, he misses cutoffs, the missing cutoffs just shows that he would rather not play with a team
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May 15 2005, 09:26 PM
i wasnt here calm your tits, there is a whole other thread devoted to you in another forum that you have seen but yet to answer.

he is selfish because he doesnt move runners over, he misses cutoffs, the missing cutoffs just shows that he would rather not play with a team

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Doesn't move runners over? He bunts!
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May 15 2005, 09:29 PM
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i wasnt here calm your tits, there is a whole other thread devoted to you in another forum that you have seen but yet to answer.

he is selfish because he doesnt move runners over, he misses cutoffs, the missing cutoffs just shows that he would rather not play with a team

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Doesn't move runners over? He bunts!

ya when no one is out, therefore it is for a basehit.

When there is a runner on second with no outs i do not want to see beltran up.

Today he got lucky, instead of hitting a ground ball to the right side he hits a line drive right at mabry, he got lucky mabry had it pop outta his glove because we would of not scored any runs that inning and beltran would be the blame.
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i wasnt here calm your tits, there is a whole other thread devoted to you in another forum that you have seen but yet to answer.

he is selfish because he doesnt move runners over, he misses cutoffs, the missing cutoffs just shows that he would rather not play with a team

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Doesn't move runners over? He bunts!

ya when no one is out, therefore it is for a basehit.

When there is a runner on second with no outs i do not want to see beltran up.

Today he got lucky, instead of hitting a ground ball to the right side he hits a line drive right at mabry, he got lucky mabry had it pop outta his glove because we would of not scored any runs that inning and beltran would be the blame.

:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

you're wrong. He has bunted with players on base. But even if he didn't, that wouldn't make him selfish.
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Sunshine, he is paid $100M to be the team's main RBI man. He's not supposed to be bunting with a runner in scoring position. And like Ray said earlier, he's done damn well hitting w/ RISP. Bunting and moving guys over is for Reyes, Matsui, and Mientkiewicz to a certain extent.

And the cutoff thing is ridiculous. How does missing the cutoff man mean he doesn't wanna play with a team? It means either or both of these things: (1) He's trying too hard and wants to nail the runner. (2) He's got bad aim.

I've seen Ichiro overthrow a cutoff man a few times. Does it mean he's selfish? Wait, it can't; he bunts.

Sunny, give it up. I don't wanna have to argue with you but this is balderdashian preposterousness.
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Scot Boras is all about money and is too arrogant.

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That sarcastic/ironic "signed" letter thing is getting old.

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Everyone who e-mails Jim Rome
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I'm too used to it now, especially in Message Board format, if I can think of something catchy, i'll do it...I probably email the the 4-5 times a day, but now that school's out Tuesday...Their will be alot more...Their are some very good ones, give it a listen, turn that Mike and Maddogg bullsh*t off...Weekdays 12-3 :rock:

But cmon, the Rickey Henderson one I did yesterday was pretty good
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May 15 2005, 10:16 PM
That sarcastic/ironic "signed" letter thing is getting old.

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Everyone who e-mails Jim Rome

Jim Rome would be the guy you see in "The Making of Sportcenter" every August telling Dan Patrick how to pronounce Aaron Guiel if he didn't get beat up by Jim Everett.

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turn that Mike and Maddogg bullsh*t off...


I don't listen to those c*cksuckers. When Rome is on, I'm watching the Yankees.

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Jim Rome would be the guy you see in "The Making of Sportcenter" every August telling Dan Patrick how to pronounce Aaron Guiel if he didn't get beat up by Jim Everett.

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I'm guessing there's some history there that I don't know about. Fill me in.
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:laugh1: I got a sense of humor even if you rip on my guy...I say one think about Mike and Maddogg and some are defending them as if they were the second coming of Batman and Robin...Yeah, bad analogy, but that's all I could think of right now...But gimmie a mulligan, I worked 12-8 today...

Speaking of Mulligan, I could of used a couple this past weekend

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May 15 2005, 10:26 PM
I'm guessing there's some history there that I don't know about. Fill me in.

Oh god, it's going to stick with this man his whole life no matter how good a career he has had.

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Wacko Jacko...

But anyway...He had a show one day with Jim Everett and Jim kept calling him Chris Everett(A tennis player right?) and Jim was getting annoyed...Finally Jim said it one more time and Jim flips over the table and pushes Jim down the onto the floor...I think Chilli Cheese had the video to it...
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turn that Mike and Maddogg bullsh*t off...


I don't listen to those c*cksuckers. When Rome is on, I'm watching the Yankees.

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Jim Rome would be the guy you see in "The Making of Sportcenter" every August telling Dan Patrick how to pronounce Aaron Guiel if he didn't get beat up by Jim Everett.

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I'm guessing there's some history there that I don't know about. Fill me in.

A while ago Rome interviewed Jim Everitt (whose last name I can't actually spell). he called him Chrissy, Everrit told him to stop, Rome said it again, Everett lunged over a table at Rome and Rome hid behind his chair.

Google it, I'm sure you'll find a video clip.
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Chris Everrett was a cute female tennis player. She was the antithesis of Navratilova (the man-bitch).
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http://media.ebaumsworld.com/jimeverett.mpg

Enjoy... :please:
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Hid behind his chair? As much sh*t as he talks and as tough as he tries to sound on the air, you can't pussy out like that with people watching. :no1:
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May 15 2005, 10:31 PM

:laugh:

That was old. Rome was kinda looking like Roger Lodge.
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Sunshine, he is paid $100M to be the team's main RBI man. He's not supposed to be bunting with a runner in scoring position. And like Ray said earlier, he's done damn well hitting w/ RISP. Bunting and moving guys over is for Reyes, Matsui, and Mientkiewicz to a certain extent.

And the cutoff thing is ridiculous. How does missing the cutoff man mean he doesn't wanna play with a team? It means either or both of these things: (1) He's trying too hard and wants to nail the runner. (2) He's got bad aim.

I've seen Ichiro overthrow a cutoff man a few times. Does it mean he's selfish? Wait, it can't; he bunts.

Sunny, give it up. I don't wanna have to argue with you but this is balderdashian preposterousness.

bullsh*t

i dont want him bunting i just want to get sac flies and moving the runner from second to third if there are no outs

he missed the cutoff man at least 4 times this year, probably more. The last one was just horrible when he threw to the wrong base.
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He's not your "move the runner over" hitter. He is the 3-hitter in your lineup. The RBI man. When there's a runner on base (especially in scoring position), its his job to DRIVE HIM IN. If he was bunting with a runner at 2B, he wouldn't be doing his job. Do you think Barry Bonds, Albert Pujols, or Vlad Guerrero is bunting with a runner at 2B? You said the others are clutch. You can't be clutch when you're bunting. AND FROM THE NUMBERS RAY POSTED, HE'S DONE WELL WITH RISP.

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The last one was just horrible when he threw to the wrong base.


How does that indicate selfishness? He WANTS to f*ck up and throw to the wrong base?
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May 15 2005, 06:44 PM
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May 15 2005, 06:39 PM
beltran gives you:

.280/23 HR/90 RBI/18 SB

Silliness. The guy has driven in 100 runs in every full season he's played. You know that will be followed by #1 on the list of Mr. Sunshine's 3 standard clueless lines:

1. RBI are a team stat and don't matter. Silliness and cluelessness.

2. Carlos Beltran sucks. Silliness and cluelessness.

3. Victor Zambrano is great. Preposterousness and cluelessness.



Matty, I like all your ****nesses in this post . . . f*ckin hilarious! :laugh:
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May 15 2005, 10:37 PM
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Sunshine, he is paid $100M to be the team's main RBI man. He's not supposed to be bunting with a runner in scoring position. And like Ray said earlier, he's done damn well hitting w/ RISP. Bunting and moving guys over is for Reyes, Matsui, and Mientkiewicz to a certain extent.

And the cutoff thing is ridiculous. How does missing the cutoff man mean he doesn't wanna play with a team? It means either or both of these things: (1) He's trying too hard and wants to nail the runner. (2) He's got bad aim.

I've seen Ichiro overthrow a cutoff man a few times. Does it mean he's selfish? Wait, it can't; he bunts.

Sunny, give it up. I don't wanna have to argue with you but this is balderdashian preposterousness.

bullsh*t

i dont want him bunting i just want to get sac flies and moving the runner from second to third if there are no outs

he missed the cutoff man at least 4 times this year, probably more. The last one was just horrible when he threw to the wrong base.

And because of that, he's selfish.

Why don't you do some research? Based on everything I've read, Beltran is a nice, respectful, jesus freak.
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Based on everything I've read, Beltran is a nice, respectful, jesus freak.

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Rome got bitched, nice hair by the way!!! :laugh:
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the numbers ray posted are extremly empty, they dont tell you the whole story. they dont say where he hit it, how hard he hit, who he hit it off of, how hot or cold piazza or floyd were. All of that is missing. Right now beltran looks like an average player and he isnt even on a cold streak, wait till he gets on one of those.

more stats, beltran has done most of his damage for pedro, our best pitcher, our ace. Wouldnt that run support be much more needed somewhere else?
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May 15 2005, 11:21 PM
the numbers ray posted are extremly empty, they dont tell you the whole story. they dont say where he hit it, how hard he hit, who he hit it off of, how hot or cold piazza or floyd were. All of that is missing. Right now beltran looks like an average player and he isnt even on a cold streak, wait till he gets on one of those.

more stats, beltran has done most of his damage for pedro, our best pitcher, our ace. Wouldnt that run support be much more needed somewhere else?

:please: I like you Pete, but are you gonna keep up this Beltran bashing forever??? :wtf:
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the numbers ray posted are extremly empty, they dont tell you the whole story. they dont say where he hit it, how hard he hit, who he hit it off of, how hot or cold piazza or floyd were. All of that is missing. Right now beltran looks like an average player and he isnt even on a cold streak, wait till he gets on one of those.

more stats, beltran has done most of his damage for pedro, our best pitcher, our ace. Wouldnt that run support be much more needed somewhere else?

I could post Pujols' or Guerrero's numbers too, and you wouldn't be able to tell what situations, what pitches he got the hits off of, or how hard they hit the ball either.

You could say anyone's stats are "empty", as you put it. There's never any way to know whether or not those base hits are dribblers down the third base line or hard line drives into the gap in right-center field.

Use some common sense.
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i have eyes i know who does well and who doesnt do well, i watch pujols and read articles enough to know that pujols is clutch as hell and the second best player in the league.
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they dont say where he hit it, how hard he hit, who he hit it off of


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