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Craig Hansen
Topic Started: May 15 2005, 11:05 AM (141 Views)
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This guy is the real deal. He's the closer for St. John's, and he's expected to go in the 1st round in the draft.

I'm not totally sure on this, but do the Mets really have anybody waiting in the wings to be a solid closer for the next few years? Because if not, this could be the guy.

Big East pre-season pitcher of the year
2-2, 1.14 ERA w/ 12 saves
6 ER in 47.1 IP
26 H
12 BB
62 K
SJU all-time career saves leader with 23
162 career strikeouts in 127 innings
Baseball America's Pre-Season All-American First Team
Fastball in the mid to upper-90's, slider in the high 80's to low 90's
8-0, 0.00 ERA in 69 innings as a senior in High School
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What do you guys think? I've seen this guy pitch on TV, and he's gonna be something special.

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I think this was talked about in another thread. Good closers are usually starters in college. I'm not completely sold on him, but I think he will go #1 and not much past that so it's unlikely we'll have a shot at him.
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May 15 2005, 11:11 AM
I think this was talked about in another thread. Good closers are usually starters in college. I'm not completely sold on him, but I think he will go #1 and not much past that so it's unlikely we'll have a shot at him.

Yeah, you're probably right. Well, whoever gets him I'm sure will be happy with the results.

The Red Storm have one of the top starters in the Big East, Anthony Varvaro.....he has very very impressive stats but I think he's only a Sophomore. He has the potential to be a great closer, if what you say is true about being a starter in college.
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i think i saw something in the post about a st. john pitcher today and it was this guy, the era is nasty.
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May 15 2005, 12:16 PM
i think i saw something in the post about a st. john pitcher today and it was this guy, the era is nasty.

He's f*cking sick. I love watching him pitch. I wish I could see more games.
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Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp
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May 15 2005, 12:31 PM
Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp

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May 15 2005, 12:31 PM
Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp

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That's just weird!!!
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May 15 2005, 02:15 PM
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May 15 2005, 12:31 PM
Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp

=-O

That's just weird!!!

LOL well I swear I had no knowledge of that......I had no clue that the Mets and Hansen were even being talked about in the same sentence.

But, it's cool I guess.
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May 15 2005, 02:23 PM
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May 15 2005, 12:31 PM
Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp

=-O

That's just weird!!!

LOL well I swear I had no knowledge of that......I had no clue that the Mets and Hansen were even being talked about in the same sentence.

But, it's cool I guess.

Don't worry, i believe you ray, that is pretty cool though, it'd be awesome to follow a guy from your favorite college team all the way to your favorite major league team!!!
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May 15 2005, 12:31 PM
Here's the 2005 MLB Mock Draft for the 1st round.

Guess who they have the Mets taking?

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article...t2005&fext=.jsp

=-O

That's just weird!!!

LOL well I swear I had no knowledge of that......I had no clue that the Mets and Hansen were even being talked about in the same sentence.

But, it's cool I guess.

Don't worry, i believe you ray, that is pretty cool though, it'd be awesome to follow a guy from your favorite college team all the way to your favorite major league team!!!

Yeah definitely.....I do think he'll keep on performing all the way to the ML level.
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Another interesting article linking Hansen to the Mets.

http://newyorkpost.com/sports/46593.htm

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St. John's star no mystery to Mets' farm chief


The Mets have a secret weapon when it comes to scouting St. John's closer and almost certain first-round pick Craig Hansen - their new farm director Russ Bove played and coached at St. John's. Still, the Mets are making sure to learn all they can about the righty, with Bove, GM Omar Minaya, scouting director Gary LaRocque and super scout Al Goldis all going in to see the righty.

The Mets like college starters Luke Hochevar (Tennessee) and Mike Pelfrey (Wichita State), both Scott Boras clients, but do not expect either to be available at their No. 9 pick. Interestingly, even with a young third baseman in David Wright, the Mets have looked hard at college third basemen Ryan Braun (Miami) and Ryan Zimmerman (Virginia) for the June 7 draft. Hansen, though, would address an obvious weakness in the pen. He is represented by Boras, however, and Boras is renowned for holding out his draft picks, which would make the already tough road from the draft to the majors sometime in 2005 even more difficult.

The Mets are most centered on a college player, though Texas high school outfielder Jay Bruce intrigues them.


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I want the mets to draft this guy now, nice job by ray and CC for giving us all the info on him!!!
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I don't want him.

The Mets organization has zero power. It would be counterproductive to use such a high first round pick on a closer.

Sure, closer is important. But as we've seen the past several seasons, you can place a guy like Miguel Batista, Eric Gagne (mediocre SP before 2002), Dustin Hermanson, Joe Nathan (who was a decent middle reliever with the Giants before last season), and Brandon lyon in that role and still get the desired results.
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May 16 2005, 07:28 AM
I don't want him.

The Mets organization has zero power. It would be counterproductive to use such a high first round pick on a closer.

Sure, closer is important. But as we've seen the past several seasons, you can place a guy like Miguel Batista, Eric Gagne (mediocre SP before 2002), Dustin Hermanson, Joe Nathan (who was a decent middle reliever with the Giants before last season), and Brandon lyon in that role and still get the desired results.

Surprise, surprise.

I had a feeling you'd say something to that effect.
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May 16 2005, 12:10 PM
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May 16 2005, 07:28 AM
I don't want him.

The Mets organization has zero power. It would be counterproductive to use such a high first round pick on a closer.

Sure, closer is important. But as we've seen the past several seasons, you can place a guy like Miguel Batista, Eric Gagne (mediocre SP before 2002), Dustin Hermanson, Joe Nathan (who was a decent middle reliever with the Giants before last season), and Brandon lyon in that role and still get the desired results.

Surprise, surprise.

I had a feeling you'd say something to that effect.

Can you refute anything I said?

I had two main premises, feel free to debate them:

1) The mets organization has a scary lack of power prospects, which needs to be addressed somewhere in the early rounds.

2) Closer is important, but to use a high first rounder on one would be nonsensical because of how quickly they can collapse and how often a seemingly mediocre or average SP or reliever becomes a dominant closer.
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May 16 2005, 02:55 PM
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May 16 2005, 12:10 PM
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May 16 2005, 07:28 AM
I don't want him.

The Mets organization has zero power. It would be counterproductive to use such a high first round pick on a closer.

Sure, closer is important. But as we've seen the past several seasons, you can place a guy like Miguel Batista, Eric Gagne (mediocre SP before 2002), Dustin Hermanson, Joe Nathan (who was a decent middle reliever with the Giants before last season), and Brandon lyon in that role and still get the desired results.

Surprise, surprise.

I had a feeling you'd say something to that effect.

Can you refute anything I said?

I had two main premises, feel free to debate them:

1) The mets organization has a scary lack of power prospects, which needs to be addressed somewhere in the early rounds.

2) Closer is important, but to use a high first rounder on one would be nonsensical because of how quickly they can collapse and how often a seemingly mediocre or average SP or reliever becomes a dominant closer.

I don't know. It's possible, but I just have faith in this guy. I'd really love to see him in the Mets system.
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May 16 2005, 03:05 PM
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May 16 2005, 02:55 PM
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May 16 2005, 12:10 PM
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May 16 2005, 07:28 AM
I don't want him.

The Mets organization has zero power. It would be counterproductive to use such a high first round pick on a closer.

Sure, closer is important. But as we've seen the past several seasons, you can place a guy like Miguel Batista, Eric Gagne (mediocre SP before 2002), Dustin Hermanson, Joe Nathan (who was a decent middle reliever with the Giants before last season), and Brandon lyon in that role and still get the desired results.

Surprise, surprise.

I had a feeling you'd say something to that effect.

Can you refute anything I said?

I had two main premises, feel free to debate them:

1) The mets organization has a scary lack of power prospects, which needs to be addressed somewhere in the early rounds.

2) Closer is important, but to use a high first rounder on one would be nonsensical because of how quickly they can collapse and how often a seemingly mediocre or average SP or reliever becomes a dominant closer.

I don't know. It's possible, but I just have faith in this guy. I'd really love to see him in the Mets system.

Honestly, it depends who is available. If there are no blue chip hitters, then this guy might not be bad.
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Whoever Hansen signs with will have him up in the Majors by august or september. The guy is absolutely dominant and closers tend to make it much quicker than starters to the majors. He'll be in the majors this year. That is as long as he is signed in a hurry. His agent is Boras.
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May 16 2005, 03:37 PM
Whoever Hansen signs with will have him up in the Majors by august or september. The guy is absolutely dominant and closers tend to make it much quicker than starters to the majors. He'll be in the majors this year. That is as long as he is signed in a hurry. His agent is Boras.

Wow, really? I didn't figure him to be ML ready by the end of the summer. :think:

So if/when he's signed (by whoever) he's going to be sent straight to AAA?
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May 16 2005, 03:37 PM
Whoever Hansen signs with will have him up in the Majors by august or september. The guy is absolutely dominant and closers tend to make it much quicker than starters to the majors. He'll be in the majors this year. That is as long as he is signed in a hurry. His agent is Boras.

Wow, really? I didn't figure him to be ML ready by the end of the summer. :think:

So if/when he's signed (by whoever) he's going to be sent straight to AAA?

He's a closer, so he doesn't need a wide range of pitches. That eliminates some of the learning curve, meaning that he could start at AA or AAA.
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May 16 2005, 03:46 PM
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Whoever Hansen signs with will have him up in the Majors by august or september. The guy is absolutely dominant and closers tend to make it much quicker than starters to the majors. He'll be in the majors this year. That is as long as he is signed in a hurry. His agent is Boras.

Wow, really? I didn't figure him to be ML ready by the end of the summer. :think:

So if/when he's signed (by whoever) he's going to be sent straight to AAA?

He's a closer, so he doesn't need a wide range of pitches. That eliminates some of the learning curve, meaning that he could start at AA or AAA.

Exactly.
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with the way things are going to not pick a pitcher in the first round would be horrible and since our most imidiate need is relief i would love to pick him up.
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Didn't the reds do the same thing with ryan wagner???
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