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Topic Started: May 12 2005, 12:16 AM (49 Views)
Gategem
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I found a website called the Mets Analyst. Do any of you guys know this dude and what do you think of him:

Mets Analyst

Anyway he writes this about Manny Aybar:

""The Enigma" -- Manny Aybar: Don't Discard Him (Yet)

Manny Aybar has been bad. Every time he comes in he gives up extra base hits aplenty (teams are slugging .563 -- All-Star level for hitters -- against him), and it drove me crazy when he was blocking Heath Bell. The truth is, though, that he has shown overpowering stuff and great command. Indeed, he is special, nay, unique in managing to be so good and so bad at the same time. Aybar has a K/9 ratio of 9.19 and a K/BB ratio of 5.33. Those numbers are flat out great. It is rare to be able to overpower hitters to that degree with that kind of control and not be excellent -- not just not horrible, but excellent. Here is a list of the NL pitchers last year who managed to strike out at least one batter per inning while striking out 5 times as many hitters as they walked. Keep in mind that in making this list I was willing to include any pitcher who had as many innings in all of 2004 as Aybar has had already in 2005 -- a very low standard. Here's the list:

Eric Gagne
Randy Johnson
Brad Lidge
Ben Sheets
John Smoltz
Billy Wagner
and Mike Gonzalez (1.25 era in middle relief for Pittsburgh).

and that's it! That elite list speaks for itself.

How about over a shorter period? Even then, Aybar's combination of outstanding suckage is unique. In 2005 there are only 9 pitchers other than Aybar with a K/9 above 9.00 and a K/BB above 5.00 (min. 10 innings; Aybar has over 15). Their average ERA is 2.76. Four of them are starters, and they're named Martinez, Peavy, Santana and Schilling (is that 5 cy youngs and counting?). When you pull them out, the 5 relievers have a combined ERA of 1.92.

So it's clear that guys with Aybar's combination of stuff and command don't grow on trees. He just has to stop throwing a meatball 1 out of every 10 pitches. Yes, Aybar has been a ne'er-do-well pitcher, but he has ne'er posted ratios close to these; his best year ratio wise came in his last substantial year in the majors, 2002 with S.F., where his very good 6.91 K/9 and 3.67 K/BB produced a respectable 2.51 ERA. In short, its a very safe bet that either Aybar's ratios are going to collapse or his ERA is going to plummet. The back of the bullpen, rather than the scrap heap, is a good place for him to be while we watch and see which it will be."

What do you guys think of this?

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Gategem
May 12 2005, 12:16 AM
I found a website called the Mets Analyst. Do any of you guys know this dude and what do you think of him:

Mets Analyst

Anyway he writes this about Manny Aybar:

""The Enigma" -- Manny Aybar: Don't Discard Him (Yet)

Manny Aybar has been bad. Every time he comes in he gives up extra base hits aplenty (teams are slugging .563 -- All-Star level for hitters -- against him), and it drove me crazy when he was blocking Heath Bell. The truth is, though, that he has shown overpowering stuff and great command. Indeed, he is special, nay, unique in managing to be so good and so bad at the same time. Aybar has a K/9 ratio of 9.19 and a K/BB ratio of 5.33. Those numbers are flat out great. It is rare to be able to overpower hitters to that degree with that kind of control and not be excellent -- not just not horrible, but excellent. Here is a list of the NL pitchers last year who managed to strike out at least one batter per inning while striking out 5 times as many hitters as they walked. Keep in mind that in making this list I was willing to include any pitcher who had as many innings in all of 2004 as Aybar has had already in 2005 -- a very low standard. Here's the list:

Eric Gagne
Randy Johnson
Brad Lidge
Ben Sheets
John Smoltz
Billy Wagner
and Mike Gonzalez (1.25 era in middle relief for Pittsburgh).

and that's it! That elite list speaks for itself.

How about over a shorter period? Even then, Aybar's combination of outstanding suckage is unique. In 2005 there are only 9 pitchers other than Aybar with a K/9 above 9.00 and a K/BB above 5.00 (min. 10 innings; Aybar has over 15). Their average ERA is 2.76. Four of them are starters, and they're named Martinez, Peavy, Santana and Schilling (is that 5 cy youngs and counting?). When you pull them out, the 5 relievers have a combined ERA of 1.92.

So it's clear that guys with Aybar's combination of stuff and command don't grow on trees. He just has to stop throwing a meatball 1 out of every 10 pitches. Yes, Aybar has been a ne'er-do-well pitcher, but he has ne'er posted ratios close to these; his best year ratio wise came in his last substantial year in the majors, 2002 with S.F., where his very good 6.91 K/9 and 3.67 K/BB produced a respectable 2.51 ERA. In short, its a very safe bet that either Aybar's ratios are going to collapse or his ERA is going to plummet. The back of the bullpen, rather than the scrap heap, is a good place for him to be while we watch and see which it will be."

What do you guys think of this?

That stat is worthless. For a reliever, K/9 ratio isn't that important. Yes, he throws strikes, but most of them are hit. If a pitcher pitches one inning and gives up three hits yet Ks two guys, that isn't good.
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I do like Aybar actually. His stuff is very good. Unfortunately, he isn't good for a whole season. The most innings he's pitched in a season was 65 and that was 10 years ago. He's good as a long man or emergency starter, but I doubt he'll be here for the entire season.
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Methinks this "Mets Analyst" wears rose-colored glasses.
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May 12 2005, 10:42 AM
Methinks this "Mets Analyst" wears rose-colored glasses.

:laugh:

Let's face facts, manny aybar sucks, it's that simple!!!
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