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Silly nonsense; with this complaining about Willie
Topic Started: May 11 2005, 07:21 PM (103 Views)
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Its always f*ckin somethin right?

The only real mistake he made Sunday was bringing in Piazza (and how quick we forget he did actually throw the runner out)

And now people are mad about it again today? What did he do now?

Maybe its just me and my long ass memory, but I like mixing and matching the relievers. I like Hernadez's 2 shutout innings. Its a good thing coming into the game that he trusted the veteran (DeJean) over the rookie (Bell) and still gave Bell a the oppurtunity when DeJean and Koo didnt get it done.

There was a time not too long ago when Mike Stanton got to pitch to the lefties and Scott Strickland or Mike DeJean got to pitch to the righties. period. end of f*ckin story for 6 months of the season.

I would've hit Woodward or Cameron for Diaz in the 9th but other than that, what the f*ck did he do wrong? This team is flawed and we're not gonna win every game, but its not because of the way he's managing.
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May 11 2005, 06:33 PM

y'all gotta bitch about something I guess.

Cant win every f*ckin game, sometimes you make the right decision and still lose.
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Doug stop with the bullsh*t, first off, willie shouldn't have brought in dejean in the 9th inning, why cause he sucks, he's pitched good only twice in big spots, that's it, every time he comes in the game something bad happens. Then willie took out dejean and put in koo, big mistake, why, cause he sucks, i don't care if it's a lefty/lefty matchup, koo just like dejean doesn't pitch good in big spots, he has trouble finding the plate. This has nothing to do with numbers or matchups, willie brought in the wrong guys at the wrong time, bell should have started the 9th, a manager has to go with his gut sometimes and not go by numbers!!!
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Doug stop with the bullsh*t, first off, willie shouldn't have brought in dejean in the 9th inning, why cause he sucks, he's pitched good only twice in big spots, that's it,


Before the season we all thought he was "the guy" to get to Looper. Shut your mouth, you can bail on a guy that quickly. But he did when DeJean didnt get it done today.

So that shows he still has faith in DeJean (which is good) but will pull him (which is good)

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Then willie took out dejean and put in koo, big mistake, why, cause he sucks,


No Koo and Patterson are both lefties and Corey cant hit a breaking ball. He walked him, it happens, it doesnt make the manager an idiot

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This has nothing to do with numbers or matchups, willie brought in the wrong guys at the wrong time, bell should have started the 9th, a manager has to go with his gut sometimes and not go by numbers


bullsh*t, you're just pissed off cause they lost, if all the relievers "suck" maybe you should just blame Minaya
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May 11 2005, 11:10 PM
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Doug stop with the bullsh*t, first off, willie shouldn't have brought in dejean in the 9th inning, why cause he sucks, he's pitched good only twice in big spots, that's it,


Before the season we all thought he was "the guy" to get to Looper. Shut your mouth, you can bail on a guy that quickly. But he did when DeJean didnt get it done today.

So that shows he still has faith in DeJean (which is good) but will pull him (which is good)

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Then willie took out dejean and put in koo, big mistake, why, cause he sucks,


No Koo and Patterson are both lefties and Corey cant hit a breaking ball. He walked him, it happens, it doesnt make the manager an idiot

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This has nothing to do with numbers or matchups, willie brought in the wrong guys at the wrong time, bell should have started the 9th, a manager has to go with his gut sometimes and not go by numbers


bullsh*t, you're just pissed off cause they lost, if all the relievers "suck" maybe you should just blame Minaya

Dejean is not "the guy" anymore before looper, he has pitched terrible this season, "the guy" now is roberto hernandez, he has proven himself and has pitched excellent in big spots. If you haven't noticed Koo has been sh*t this season, against lefties and righties, he f*cking sucks, you have to go with the guys you trust the most, those guys are bell, hernandez and looper. I can understand putting looper in when the mets have a lead, that's fine but bell has to get into the game before dejean and koo, the mets need to bring strickland up and send one of these shitty a-holes down, NOW!!!
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Dejean is not "the guy" anymore before looper, he has pitched terrible this season, "the guy" now is roberto hernandez, he has proven himself and has pitched excellent in big spots.


And thats why Hernandez had the ball when we needed to keep it a 1 run game or it was over. We've seen good DeJean and bad DeJean. A GOOD MANAGER DOESNT COMPLETELY BAIL ON A GUY FOR A BAD 4 WEEKS.

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If you haven't noticed Koo has been sh*t this season, against lefties and righties, he f*cking sucks, you have to go with the guys you trust the most


No, Corey Patterson is strikeout hitter who is 4-35 against lefties. You bring in the lefty and tell him to the throw breaking balls (Patterson is a fastball hitter). Even though he walked him its till the right decision......4-35 against lefties and Koo is the only lefty in the pen. DONT EVEN TRY TO ARGUE THE LOGIC OF THAT sh*t

Aybar goes down when Strickland gets back.
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May 11 2005, 11:22 PM
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Dejean is not "the guy" anymore before looper, he has pitched terrible this season, "the guy" now is roberto hernandez, he has proven himself and has pitched excellent in big spots.


And thats why Hernandez had the ball when we needed to keep it a 1 run game or it was over. We've seen good DeJean and bad DeJean. A GOOD MANAGER DOESNT COMPLETELY BAIL ON A GUY FOR A BAD 4 WEEKS.

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If you haven't noticed Koo has been sh*t this season, against lefties and righties, he f*cking sucks, you have to go with the guys you trust the most


No, Corey Patterson is strikeout hitter who is 4-35 against lefties. You bring in the lefty and tell him to the throw breaking balls (Patterson is a fastball hitter). Even though he walked him its till the right decision......4-35 against lefties and Koo is the only lefty in the pen. DONT EVEN TRY TO ARGUE THE LOGIC OF THAT sh*t

Aybar goes down when Strickland gets back.

I'm not asking willie to bail on dejean, i'm asking him to have bell come into a close game before dejean does, at this point i trust bell more than dejean, as for koo, again everyone has been hitting off of this guy, you have to go with your gut sometime. Koo hasn't gotten anyone out lately, he's garbage, bell should have been brought in to face patterson, it's all about the trust factor!!!
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I'm not asking willie to bail on dejean, i'm asking him to have bell come into a close game before dejean does, at this point i trust bell more than dejean,


He probably will after today. But going to bell first anytime before today is bailing on DeJean.

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r koo, again everyone has been hitting off of this guy, you have to go with your gut sometime. Koo hasn't gotten anyone out lately, he's garbage, bell should have been brought in to face patterson, it's all about the trust factor!!!


.114 avg vs. lefties. you bring in a lefty. Thats not even a decision man
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I'm with Justin on this one. Koo and Dejean have been real crappy recently in big spots. Bell proved in Milwaukee that he can do the job. Willie shouldn't have even given it that much thought.

If not Bell to start the ninth, AT LEAST bring him in instead of Koo. I can live with the Dejean call, but don't go and bring in Koo. Bell should've been the guy to come in right there.
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THE GUY HITS f*ckin .114 AGAINST LEFTIES.

Why would you not bring in a lefty when the battewr doesnt get a hit out off lefties 89.6% of the time.

YOu bring in f*ckin Mientkiewicz before you bring in a righty, thats just f*ckin dumb, if you think that then the entire bullpen should be right handed
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May 12 2005, 12:23 AM
THE GUY HITS f*ckin .114 AGAINST LEFTIES.

Why would you not bring in a lefty when the battewr doesnt get a hit out off lefties 89.6% of the time.

YOu bring in f*ckin Mientkiewicz before you bring in a righty, thats just f*ckin dumb, if you think that then the entire bullpen should be right handed

No, not really.
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Last year the Orioles were dreadful under Mazzilli. There was talk of him being fired. A lot of criticism was leveled against him for his player moves. Well this year the Orioles are off to a fast start. The first year was a learning year for Mazzilli and likewise it is a learning year for Willie.
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May 12 2005, 12:23 AM
THE GUY HITS f*ckin .114 AGAINST LEFTIES.

Why would you not bring in a lefty when the battewr doesnt get a hit out off lefties 89.6% of the time.

YOu bring in f*ckin Mientkiewicz before you bring in a righty, thats just f*ckin dumb, if you think that then the entire bullpen should be right handed

KOO F*CKING SUCKS!!!
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doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring
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May 12 2005, 08:19 PM
doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring

The mets need a lefty yes but that drunk bastard is wrong, Koo sucks against everyone, i'd rather take my chances on someone who can throw a pitch over the plate and get hitters out!!!
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doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring

The mets need a lefty yes but that drunk bastard is wrong, Koo sucks against everyone, i'd rather take my chances on someone who can throw a pitch over the plate and get hitters out!!!

wrong, patterson is a met killer and if might as well take a chance wiwth a lefty even if he is garbage because patterson is horrible against lefties.
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doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring

The mets need a lefty yes but that drunk bastard is wrong, Koo sucks against everyone, i'd rather take my chances on someone who can throw a pitch over the plate and get hitters out!!!

wrong, patterson is a met killer and if might as well take a chance wiwth a lefty even if he is garbage because patterson is horrible against lefties.

Patterson isn't a met killer, neifi perez is and bell got him out, too bad he couldn't do the same with derek lee!!! :no1:
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:blahblah: all this meuts schwabbling is giving me a headache :blahblah:


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doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring

The mets need a lefty yes but that drunk bastard is wrong, Koo sucks against everyone, i'd rather take my chances on someone who can throw a pitch over the plate and get hitters out!!!

wrong, patterson is a met killer and if might as well take a chance wiwth a lefty even if he is garbage because patterson is horrible against lefties.

Patterson isn't a met killer, neifi perez is and bell got him out, too bad he couldn't do the same with derek lee!!! :no1:

patterson murdered us opening day two years ago and hit two homers on wen.

perez doesnt even have a career .300 avg lifetime against the mets, one ab and another single doesnt make him a killer. He grounded out into a bases loaded doubleplay, f*cking killer :serious:

patterson is not much of a met killer either looking at the stats but his plays against the mets have stood out in my mind.
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doug has a point

the problem is we need another lefty in the pen, release koo and bring up ring

The mets need a lefty yes but that drunk bastard is wrong, Koo sucks against everyone, i'd rather take my chances on someone who can throw a pitch over the plate and get hitters out!!!

wrong, patterson is a met killer and if might as well take a chance wiwth a lefty even if he is garbage because patterson is horrible against lefties.

Patterson isn't a met killer, neifi perez is and bell got him out, too bad he couldn't do the same with derek lee!!! :no1:

patterson murdered us opening day two years ago and hit two homers on wen.

perez doesnt even have a career .300 avg lifetime against the mets, one ab and another single doesnt make him a killer. He grounded out into a bases loaded doubleplay, f*cking killer :serious:

patterson is not much of a met killer either looking at the stats but his plays against the mets have stood out in my mind.

Perez is a newly found met killer, he just became one over this last series, why, cause i said so, dude sucks but was getting hits all over the place!!!
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