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Than You Jason Giambi
Topic Started: Apr 10 2005, 01:57 PM (187 Views)
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Had that clown been able to catch the pop up that hit him in the glove (damn, you'd think $10,000 sunglasses would do the job), Mora is out and Pavano doesn't take a cannon ball to the head.

Did you see how far the ball went after it deflected? Almost was a ground rule double. I can't believe he was still standing after that.

And people think I'm being negative when I say that this team has bad luck. :no1:
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I'm a Gimabi fan, but wow he looks heavy through the mid-drift.Almost like a Sunday morning beerleaguer at the Elks lodge.
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Pavano proved to be a tough heterosexual (as opposed to the silly soft lesbian club) by being able to walk off the mound after taking that hard liner. I took a rock to the temple in high school and needed like 5 stitches. It hurts, whether or not it breaks skin.

I don't want to see Giambi in the field! Tino needs to be out there most of the time. I want Tino out there 120 games, and I mean 120 starts, not late inning replacement appearances!
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Apr 10 2005, 02:02 PM
Pavano proved to be a tough heterosexual (as opposed to the silly soft lesbian club) by being able to walk off the mound after taking that hard liner. I took a rock to the temple in high school and needed like 5 stitches. It hurts, whether or not it breaks skin.

I don't want to see Giambi in the field! Tino needs to be out there most of the time. I want Tino out there 120 games, and I mean 120 starts, not late inning replacement appearances!

I took a basketball to the face in 6th grade and it took all the man in me to keep from screaming. I can't imagine how much a linedrive to the side of the head hurts. Doesn't have to bleed because blood vessels are broken under the skin and the swelling is gonna come.

That's right. I just said something similar in my "Joe's Mistakes" thread. Giambi is starting too many games at 1B. Its not as if Tino hit .189 last season and can't do anything but play defense (like Crosby). Actually, at this point, he might even be a more productive hitter than Giambi. And its not as if it would/could be a pride issue. Coming off his 2004 season and the etceteras, Jason should be just thankful that he's still on this team making as much as he does. Hell, if I were him, I'd ask to be the DH. I still haven't forgotten about the "Rich Gannon pump fake" from last year.

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Giambi is a pig. I wish he would just go away. I'm done with him. 3 games at first, 3 errors.
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Apr 10 2005, 02:12 PM
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Pavano proved to be a tough heterosexual (as opposed to the silly soft lesbian club) by being able to walk off the mound after taking that hard liner.  I took a rock to the temple in high school and needed like 5 stitches.  It hurts, whether or not it breaks skin.

I don't want to see Giambi in the field!  Tino needs to be out there most of the time.  I want Tino out there 120 games, and I mean 120 starts, not late inning replacement appearances!

I took a basketball to the face in 6th grade and it took all the man in me to keep from screaming. I can't imagine how much a linedrive to the side of the head hurts. Doesn't have to bleed because blood vessels are broken under the skin and the swelling is gonna come.

That's right. I just said something similar in my "Joe's Mistakes" thread. Giambi is starting too many games at 1B. Its not as if Tino hit .189 last season and can't do anything but play defense (like Crosby). Actually, at this point, he might even be a more productive hitter than Giambi. And its not as if it would/could be a pride issue. Coming off his 2004 season and the etceteras, Jason should be just thankful that he's still on this team making as much as he does. Hell, if I were him, I'd ask to be the DH. I still haven't forgotten about the "Rich Gannon pump fake" from last year.

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Once again Mattingly23 and Big Poppa agree 100%. Told you it wouldn't a month before that happened again.

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Giambi is a pig. I wish he would just go away. I'm done with him. 3 games at first, 3 errors.


Unfortunately that is not happening. Hey Strider, wouldn't you love to have non-guaranteed contracts like in football? I know I am preaching to the choir on that one! It also will never happen because of the players' union, but it would be so much better. No hard cap like in the NFL, but being able to get out of a long-term contract after a few years would be great. It would keep the players hungry and safeguard a team from being stuck with someone like Giambi. You'd still give them large guaranteed signing bonuses like in football, so they wouldn't be screwed over just because the team can't afford a player anymore. You'd only release players who deserve it a la Giambi.

If ANYONE deserves to get booed, it's Giambi, well Giambi and Kevin Brown.
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I guess you're on a hotstreak. Don't disagree with me and go into a slump.
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Unfortunately that is not happening. Hey Strider, wouldn't you love to have non-guaranteed contracts like in football? I know I am preaching to the choir on that one! It also will never happen because of the players' union, but it would be so much better. No hard cap like in the NFL, but being able to get out of a long-term contract after a few years would be great. It would keep the players hungry and safeguard a team from being stuck with someone like Giambi.

If ANYONE deserves to get booed, it's Giambi, well Giambi and Kevin Brown.


I'm don't like non-guaranteeds in the NFL (a star is 1 injury away from being treated like garbage), but I think it would work well in baseball. It would allow teams to rid themselves of disappointments like Giambi. I also think the NBA needs it. Overpaid apathetic azzholes get big contracts and lay back. Okur and Folye together make $100M.
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There are certainly downsides of it like the star being injured and treated like crap, which is exactly why Billy Hunter and Donald Fehr will never allow them in the NBA or MLB, respectively. Well that and they want pieces of sh*t like Foyle being paid $40 million to be a big stiff.
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Can somebody explain to me why Tino is on this team? If f*cking CLUELESS a-hole Joe Torre isn't going to be using him at first there is NO point having him. It's that useless f*ck Jason Giambi who should be riding the pine. I am sick of these idiots. :fyou:
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Apr 10 2005, 03:00 PM
Can somebody explain to me why Tino is on this team? If f*cking CLUELESS a-hole Joe Torre isn't going to be using him at first there is NO point having him. It's that useless f*ck Jason Giambi who should be riding the pine. I am sick of these idiot. :fyou:

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You already know how I feel.
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It becomes more and more apparent that Zimmer was the brains behind that bench. All Joe cares about is that his plastic cup is filled with green tea.
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I'll be interested to hear the clueless one's response in the post. Though I doubt anybody in the NY media has the guts to grill him. We really need to get somebody who would drag this a-hole over the coals. He needs to start getting slammed to no end for his f*cking stupidity. :fyou:
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Apr 10 2005, 03:09 PM
It becomes more and more apparent that Zimmer was the brains behind that bench. All Joe cares about is that his plastic cup is filled with green tea.

And sucking on his peach pit. What a f*cking fruitcake! :furious: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou: :fyou:
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f*cker Giambi :fyou:
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It becomes more and more apparent that Zimmer was the brains behind that bench. All Joe cares about is that his plastic cup is filled with green tea.

Come on, you know I want Tino out there as much as you, but Zimmer was not the brains behind anything. How'd he do when he was a manager? Those were better teams the Yankees had when Torre and Zimmer were the braintrust. You really think if Zimmer were here, the moves you or I want would be made?

As for Mini473, I disagree with Torre on this as much as you do too, but how does that make him a clueless a-hole? Why are you such a drama queen with everything?
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Giambi has made an error in every game he's been in. He's a mother f*cker who can rot in hell.
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It's not just this, I've thought Torre has been sleeping since '96. He just had so much talent that he was able to get away with stuff. Now that he actually has to manage you're seeing how bad he really is.
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Giambi has made an error in every game he's been in. He's a mother f*cker who can rot in hell.

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Apr 10 2005, 04:14 PM
It's not just this, I've thought Torre has been sleeping since '96. He just had so much talent that he was able to get away with stuff. Now that he actually has to manage you're seeing how bad he really is.

How come you never suggest alternatives then? Maybe because there's nobody out there that would do a better job in this position? Maybe because you'd just rip that guy after he makes the first move you don't agree with? Maybe because Georgie boy would feel just like you and fire the guy after a half a season? Think before you rant.
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It becomes more and more apparent that Zimmer was the brains behind that bench. All Joe cares about is that his plastic cup is filled with green tea.

Come on, you know I want Tino out there as much as you, but Zimmer was not the brains behind anything. How'd he do when he was a manager? Those were better teams the Yankees had when Torre and Zimmer were the braintrust. You really think if Zimmer were here, the moves you or I want would be made?

As for Mini473, I disagree with Torre on this as much as you do too, but how does that make him a clueless a-hole? Why are you such a drama queen with everything?

I'm sorry but Torre hasn't made a good move in the last few years. His mistakes were covered in the past because the players he had were clutch. He has no clue how to manage a bullpen and the loyalty act has grown old now.
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It's not just this, I've thought Torre has been sleeping since '96.  He just had so much talent that he was able to get away with stuff.  Now that he actually has to manage you're seeing how bad he really is.

How come you never suggest alternatives then? Maybe because there's nobody out there that would do a better job in this position? Maybe because you'd just rip that guy after he makes the first move you don't agree with? Maybe because Georgie boy would feel just like you and fire the guy after a half a season? Think before you rant.

The alternative is to NOT play Giambi at first when you have Tino, plain and f*cking simple!
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It becomes more and more apparent that Zimmer was the brains behind that bench. All Joe cares about is that his plastic cup is filled with green tea.

Come on, you know I want Tino out there as much as you, but Zimmer was not the brains behind anything. How'd he do when he was a manager? Those were better teams the Yankees had when Torre and Zimmer were the braintrust. You really think if Zimmer were here, the moves you or I want would be made?

As for Mini473, I disagree with Torre on this as much as you do too, but how does that make him a clueless a-hole? Why are you such a drama queen with everything?

I'm sorry but Torre hasn't made a good move in the last few years. His mistakes were covered in the past because the players he had were clutch. He has no clue how to manage a bullpen and the loyalty act has grown old now.

He also doesn't know when to bunt, when to hit and run, when to steal, last year in the ALCS EVERYBODY and their mothers knew Roberts was stealing and he didn't pitch out. The man is a f*cking idiot. He leaves pitchers in too long.... The list goes on and on. Torre is an a-hole and he should be fired.
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I'm usualy a defender of Torre but he's been on cruise control. He's like a president in the last 2 years of his 2nd term. At that point it's all about legacy. It's not about taking risks or being bold. That's Torre right now. Torre is a negative on this team right now. Expect the Sox to hit 4 Yankees in this up coming series while the Yanks hit nobody while Clueless Joe drinks his Green Tea and picks his nose.
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Apr 10 2005, 04:17 PM
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It's not just this, I've thought Torre has been sleeping since '96.  He just had so much talent that he was able to get away with stuff.  Now that he actually has to manage you're seeing how bad he really is.

How come you never suggest alternatives then? Maybe because there's nobody out there that would do a better job in this position? Maybe because you'd just rip that guy after he makes the first move you don't agree with? Maybe because Georgie boy would feel just like you and fire the guy after a half a season? Think before you rant.

The alternative is to NOT play Giambi at first when you have Tino, plain and f*cking simple!

I know you're slow, but do you really think that's what I was asking? You know I want Tino out there over Giambi. I asked you for alternatives as manager of the New York Yankees. I never hear you mention any when you say Torre should be gone.

Give me a name of somone who can handle all the egos, make better decisions, not crack under the pressure of the media, and will not get fired by George after a half a season, or at the most, one full season.
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We can't suggest an alternative because there probably isn't one. You can't just pull one out of a top hat. I think I could do the job, but....

Just because there isn't an obvious solution doesn't mean that you're supposed to be happy with the situation. Homeless people don't have a solution, but ask one if he's content. I'll complain about Joe whenever he does something that pisses me off. I'll complain about him until he's gone. And I'll complain about the next guy when he pisses me off.
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Alternatives to Torre? I'd like Lou Pinella, but that aint happening. So why mention it?
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Apr 10 2005, 04:43 PM
Alternatives to Torre? I'd like Lou Pinella, but that aint happening. So why mention it?

Lou Piniella is the only one who could step right in and handle everything. Of course Georgie has fired him a couple of times too, but he's the only veteran manager who could take over this team. He's not available though, so like the both of you have admitted, there are no suitable replacements for Torre. Deal with it. Try to disagree with a move here and there without calling him a "f*cking a-hole" or demanding he be fired. What about Torre putting Giambi in the field makes him an a-hole? A bad move? Sure, I agree. An a-hole? I don't see it. Even Torre fans like me disagree with moves. If you watched 162 games of other teams, including those managed by Sweet Lou, you'd also disagree with a ton of moves. That's baseball.

Again with your silly analogies, Strider. Hamburgers and baseball are not comparable, just as homeless people and managerial candidates are not comparable. You should quit while you're ahead before busting out any more silly analogies.
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If I feel like booing the hell out of Torre or calling him an a-hole for a stupid move I will. Putting Giambi in there instead of Tino is f*cking stupid. So I don't see what's so wrong about saying so, or about calling him an a-hole for doing it. It's better to scream and curse and get my frustrations with the sutpid moves out, than it is to keep them locked up inside and let it boil up because I'd probably end up really snapping.
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I don't know if you're missing the point with the analogies or you're doing it on purpose to bust my balls. You're a smart guy so I'm leaning towards the latter.

I'm not comparing a f*cking hamburger to baseball. Homeless people don't have a damn thing to do with an MLB manager. What I said/meant was: Like a homeless person, WE don't have a solution to the problem. But it doesn't mean that we shouldn't be upset. Hobos don't have a means by which to make enough to get off the street, but it doesn't mean that they're not gonna be pissed about life. WE don't have an alternative for Torre, but it doesn't mean that he have to be happy with him.

Get it? Well, I think you did the first time, but...
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