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Cameron: I Want To Be Here
Topic Started: Mar 9 2005, 04:48 AM (208 Views)
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Mike Cameron looks like he may stick around after all.

Earlier this spring, the Mets were engaged in trade talks involving Cameron, and his departure seemed to be a foregone conclusion. But yesterday Cameron's agent, Mike Nicotera, had a lengthy talk with his client and afterwards, Nicotera told the Met front office that Cameron doesn't want to be anywhere but in rightfield at Shea.

"He's fully comfortable going forward with being here," Nicotera told the Post. "He wants to be in New York. He's comfortable with the idea of being the right fielder. He doesn't want to be traded."

Possible destinations included Seattle and Houston. Now, though, it appears as if he's staying put, which is a good thing for the Mets.

"Mike's feelings have always weighed heavily in their impetus or not to trade him. With Mike expressing [last night] that 'I want to be here,' my opinion is it will affect their urgency to move him," Nicotera said.
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silliness.
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there's nothing silly about it!!!
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Either he should play CF here or be moved. Staying here in RF will just make him the guaranteed scapegoat if and when things go wrong this season.
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Mar 9 2005, 03:38 PM
Either he should play CF here or be moved. Staying here in RF will just make him the guaranteed scapegoat if and when things go wrong this season.

please, cameron has played rightfield before, he'll be fine!!!
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No he won't. Runner on third, fly ball to RF, runner will score every single time. Runner on second, single to RF, runner will score every single time. His 150 strikeouts is not a way to help his cause in making up for that either. Fans like you are going to be all over him. Please trade him before he starts getting the criticism that he isn't responsible for.
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oh wow. I really can't put up with your comments.

Ultra ignorant.
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Mar 9 2005, 03:52 PM
No he won't. Runner on third, fly ball to RF, runner will score every single time. Runner on second, single to RF, runner will score every single time. His 150 strikeouts is not a way to help his cause in making up for that either. Fans like you are going to be all over him. Please trade him before he starts getting the criticism that he isn't responsible for.

the problem is the mets would need to replace his bat if they trade him and they can't, there's no one as good as him they can get back in a trade, the mets are better off keeping cameron!!!
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Stop calling Champs ignorant. He's raising a legitimate concern.

Ideally, Cameron would be in LF and Floyd in RF. But LF would be too much of a slap in the face.
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Stop calling Champs ignorant.


Yes, master.
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Mar 9 2005, 03:54 PM
oh wow.  I really can't put up with your comments.

Ultra ignorant.

Yes you certainly have proved that you are ultra ignorant.

But it seems like you are not denying that I am right?
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oh wow.  I really can't put up with your comments.

Ultra ignorant.

Yes you certainly have proved that you are ultra ignorant.

But it seems like you are not denying that I am right?

I mean your constant negativity.
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You seem to be confusing negativity and objectivity. An objective view of the recent Mets history yields mostly negativity.
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timo - cammy got a better arm then floyd

idealy he would be a centerfielder

if he wanted to get traded we shouldve traded him, now that he wants to stay let him stay, maybe we will wise up mid season.
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Mar 9 2005, 06:14 PM
timo - cammy got a better arm then floyd

idealy he would be a centerfielder

if he wanted to get traded we shouldve traded him, now that he wants to stay let him stay, maybe we will wise up mid season.

Floyd has played almost an entire season in RF. Cameron has played a couple games.
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timo - cammy got a better arm then floyd

idealy he would be a centerfielder

if he wanted to get traded we shouldve traded him, now that he wants to stay let him stay, maybe we will wise up mid season.

Floyd has played almost an entire season in RF. Cameron has played a couple games.

where? boston?

cameron is still better then him. He might get some late jumps in the beginning but he has more then enough speed to make up for it. Eventually he will get the jumps he gets in CF. Floyd does not run anymore in the outfeild and still gets horrible jumps even though he has played corner outfeild for most of his career.
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timo - cammy got a better arm then floyd

idealy he would be a centerfielder

if he wanted to get traded we shouldve traded him, now that he wants to stay let him stay, maybe we will wise up mid season.

Floyd has played almost an entire season in RF. Cameron has played a couple games.

where? boston?

cameron is still better then him. He might get some late jumps in the beginning but he has more then enough speed to make up for it. Eventually he will get the jumps he gets in CF. Floyd does not run anymore in the outfeild and still gets horrible jumps even though he has played corner outfeild for most of his career.

You're the expert. After all, you can make a better judgement on a player after watching him play 10 games than the guys who watch him for a living every game of the season.
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timo - cammy got a better arm then floyd

idealy he would be a centerfielder

if he wanted to get traded we shouldve traded him, now that he wants to stay let him stay, maybe we will wise up mid season.

Floyd has played almost an entire season in RF. Cameron has played a couple games.

where? boston?

cameron is still better then him. He might get some late jumps in the beginning but he has more then enough speed to make up for it. Eventually he will get the jumps he gets in CF. Floyd does not run anymore in the outfeild and still gets horrible jumps even though he has played corner outfeild for most of his career.

You're the expert. After all, you can make a better judgement on a player after watching him play 10 games than the guys who watch him for a living every game of the season.

i have watched floyd play for two years now, are you seriously gonna debate me on the fact that floyd gets HORRIBLE jumps? Even if camerons jumps are as bad as his he could make up for it with his speed, floyd has the speed jjust doesnt use it because of his knees. Therefore cam got the edge over range even before he has played a game in right. Floyd also has a bad arm, cameron's is nothing special but at least up to par to floyds.

If you are reffering to beltran, it doesnt take an expert to realize he gets bad jumps, you just gotta watch him play and pray for good replays. I cant wait till you all get to shea and sit behind the plate somewhere, that is where you got the best view on the breaks to the ball on everyone on the field. Outta all the players i saw last year cameron was second in terms of breaking to the ball (first was jones). Granted i have not seen beltran play live but espn, wgn and fox showed some pretty good replays and you could tell he is a good half a second or second slow.
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Mar 9 2005, 04:24 PM
Stop calling Champs ignorant. He's raising a legitimate concern.

Ideally, Cameron would be in LF and Floyd in RF. But LF would be too much of a slap in the face.

get out of my face, dutchman wants cameron to play centerfield not left, he thinks cameron is better than beltran, he thinks that the mets are gonna pull someone better (than cameron) out of their ass, when fact is the mets are better off keeping cameron, champ is arguing over stupid sh*t, it makes no sense to trade cameron at this point!!!
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In terms of catching balls, Cameron is far better. He's one of the best in the game in that regard. But that ability will be wasted in RF where range is not of the same importance. Cameron will be sufficient in RF, but we can and ought to do better (unless you're all satisfied with "sufficiency"). Ideally, Cameron would be the CFer, and Beltran the RFer, but that isn't going to happen. So why not trade Cameron for prospects and get a real RFer?
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Mar 9 2005, 05:57 PM
In terms of catching balls, Cameron is far better. He's one of the best in the game in that regard. But that ability will be wasted in RF where range is not of the same importance. Cameron will be sufficient in RF, but we can and ought to do better (unless you're all satisfied with "sufficiency"). Ideally, Cameron would be the CFer, and Beltran the RFer, but that isn't going to happen. So why not trade Cameron for prospects and get a real RFer?

GET WHO, there's no one the mets can trade for right now that is better than cameron!!!
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We can trade him for prospects. Then package prospects for a better RFer. Seems that would make more sense.
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You make it seem like Beltran is a shitty ass defender. Get the f*ck outta my face.
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Mar 9 2005, 06:01 PM
We can trade him for prospects. Then package prospects for a better RFer. Seems that would make more sense.

come on, don't bullsh*t me, the mets are better off keeping cameron!!!
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He's not. The problem is Cameron will be a shitty ass RFer. He's inconsistant power wise, and has a weak ass arm. Cameron is also a better defensive CFer than Beltran. Not by much, but he is. Makes more sense to trade than to keep deadweight.
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We can trade him for prospects. Then package prospects for a better RFer. Seems that would make more sense.

come on, don't bullsh*t me, the mets are better off keeping cameron!!!

Oh, I have no doubt the Mets will keep Cameron and I will feel sorry for the sh!t he is unfairly going to get from the fans.
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We can trade him for prospects. Then package prospects for a better RFer. Seems that would make more sense.

come on, don't bullsh*t me, the mets are better off keeping cameron!!!

Oh, I have no doubt the Mets will keep Cameron and I will feel sorry for the sh!t he is unfairly going to get from the fans.

dutchman please!!! :please:
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Somehow, I don't think it's going to take long for you to say "Cameron sucks ass." I just hope you remember it's not his fault he's playing out of position.
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Mar 9 2005, 06:10 PM
Somehow, I don't think it's going to take long for you to say "Cameron sucks ass." I just hope you remember it's not his fault he's playing out of position.

we'll see about that, i think cameron will do fine in rightfield!!!
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the problem i have with beltran is his ability to go for balls hit to his side and behind him, with the ball in front of him he is pretty damn good, just over his head, he is not so good with that regard.
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