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Opening Day lineup
Topic Started: Jan 13 2005, 09:01 PM (450 Views)
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Jan 16 2005, 12:28 AM
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Jan 16 2005, 01:18 AM
Get his act together? Jorge is Jorge.

Very true, I've given up on him and, after last year, I hate Gay-Rod, he'll have another decent season at best. I don't know how Bernie will be either. He did alright in the ALCS, but he didn't have the greatest regular season.

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What's so bad about that post? Are we still smooching with Jorge's ass? If its that, then please don't tell me it is. It'll get me started. Last guy I'd want up w/ a runner at 3B and 1 out. A-Rod, I can't blame 03 for not being enamored. The guy's numbers have been on a steady decline (not talked about but its true) and he struggled with runners in scoring position for most of the season. I'm sorry, maybe our expectations are just tooooo high for a man who makes $252M and was regarded as the best player in the game. The Bernie part is the only thing that threw me off. "Didn't have the greatest regular season" is a huge understatement. That coming from someone who is negative, kinda strange. We can't expect more than .280/20 HR/75 RBI out of Bernie. He might be capable of more, but hell, I predicted .300 last season.

Lil' Drew and Grown Drew just love picking on Yanks03. He's my boy, so back off.
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The A-Rod portion of it was stupid.
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Jan 13 2005, 08:01 PM
2B - Womack
SS - Jeter
3B - Rodriguez
RF - Sheffield
LF - Matsui
CF - Williams
DH - Giambi
C - Posada
1B - Martinez

What do you think it'll look like?

The line-up looks very good. This keeps A-Rod up in the first inning.

2B-Womack
SS-Jeter
3B- A-Rod
RF- Sheffield
LF- Matsui
CF- B. Williams
C- Posada
1B- T. Martinez
DH- Giambi

Giambi has to a lot to prove. Start him off 9th and if he can prove himself, move him up in the lineup.
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I know how Yanksfan03 came off sounding (you're factoring that in with stuff he's said before), but its all relative. .286/36 HR is decent by Alex Rodriguez and $252M standards. He had his late season hotstreak, but then struggled in the ALCS. Outside of 1 month in the regular season and the ALDS, he stunk with runners in scoring position. He hasn't given us any indication that he'll do better than those numbers. Also, look at his career stats. His batting average has been on a decline for years. It wouldn't be shocking (like you & MM are making it seem) if he came back with similar stats.

Get off my nukkah's back. :annoyed:
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Jan 16 2005, 12:03 PM
The A-Rod portion of it was stupid.

Exactly.
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For the money A-Rod is making, he should be producing a hellova lot more and he should be hitting better in clutch situations. I agree that it was a decent season. He owes us an Albert Pujols like season. He's the highest paid player, yet he played nowhere near the best player in the game.
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It was his first year! He has like 7 years left!
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Forget the Regular season, ARod should have come thru during any of those games 4 thru 7 against Boston. He has a lot to prove this year, no excuses. Baring injury he must dominate from Spring Training to playoffs.
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Jan 16 2005, 03:07 PM
It was his first year! He has like 7 years left!

So he gets free pass? No, he's one of the main reasons Boston wiped the floor with us after Game 3. f*ck him, he has A LOT of work to do to make up for this. He comes here and for the first time in 86 years we lose to Boston, man does that piss me off. :furious:
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Blame Joe.
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Joe does a lot of stuff that pisses me off, mainly sleeping through Games 4-7 of the ALCS, but how can A-Rod not hit a simple sac-fly with a man on third and one out? Pathetic, I expected that crap from Soriano when he was here, not A-Rod. Not at what he's making to simply hit a baseball.
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Does anyone remember Jeter's average in the post season? :-|
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I didn't know A-Rod started Duque in Game 4 instead of Moose. I didn't know A-Rod walked Kevin freaking Millar to start the 9th. I didn't know A-Rod put his hands around Tom Gordon's neck in Game 5. I didn't know A-Rod gave up a 3-run HR to Mark Belhorn in Game 6. I didn't know A-Rod made Kevin Brown lie about his health. I didn't know A-Rod came out of the bullpen and gave up a grand slam to Johnny Damon.


The people bitching about A-Rod are costing us the ALCS are clueless idiots. Period. End of story. He's just one player, the whole damn team went down the shitter, not just one person.
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I didn't say A-Rod was THE main reason, I said ONE of the main reasons. The biggest problem was Joe and Mel, but we've been over that plenty of times in the past. This thread was simply about the lineup and A-Rod cost us pretty big after Game 3. He had a chance to make his mark in Game 6 by hitting a game-tying home run in the bottom of the 8th after Jeter drove in a run to make it 4-2, but instead A-Rod swung like a sissy and hit a little grounder back to Arroyo, then ran down the line like a fairy and clearly slapped the ball out of Arroyo's glove. What a loser. He should've at least hammered that pitch into the gap for a double, but as was typical of him all year, he made an out in a big spot.
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Jan 16 2005, 04:18 PM
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It was his first year!  He has like 7 years left!

So he gets free pass? No, he's one of the main reasons Boston wiped the floor with us after Game 3. f*ck him, he has A LOT of work to do to make up for this. He comes here and for the first time in 86 years we lose to Boston, man does that piss me off. :furious:

I'm not saying he's getting a free pass. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to give up on him after one bad year. He'll be here for a while and he'll put up A-Rod-like numbers. I guarantee it.
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If he doesn't you should give your admin spot to BC. :peace:
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Jan 16 2005, 04:32 PM
He had a chance to make his mark in Game 6 by hitting a game-tying home run in the bottom of the 8th after Jeter drove in a run to make it 4-2, but instead A-Rod swung like a sissy and hit a little grounder back to Arroyo, then ran down the line like a fairy and clearly slapped the ball out of Arroyo's glove. What a loser. He should've at least hammered that pitch into the gap for a double, but as was typical of him all year, he made an out in a big spot.

What did the almighty Sheffield do after that? Tell me what he did. He also had the same chance to hit a game tying HR and he didn't. How come you say nothing about Sheffield? Not one word about Sheffield.

I'll tell you why.

You're a cluless idiot. That's why.

Everything was A-Rod's fault last year to you. All season long, and don't you try to say different, because all you did last season was bitch about A-Rod. You were one of the idiots who bought into the media hype that brining in another hitter like A-Rod was going to clinch the WS.
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If I had bought the fact that A-Rod guaranteed a WS I wouldn't have been scarred as hell of Boston. I bought into the hype that A-Rod is the best player in the game and he wasn't even the best player on his own team. That's what pisses me off about him.
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He should at least put up amazing regular season stats this year, I mean Pujols-like. I'll forgive him and believe he earned his money if he can do that.
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A-Rod needs an MVP type season next year not just a good one. All the pressure will be on RJ and the pitching staff so A-Rod needs to be like the Fonz. And what is Fonz? He's cool.
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Jan 16 2005, 05:19 PM
A-Rod needs an MVP type season next year not just a good one. All the pressure will be on RJ and the pitching staff so A-Rod needs to be like the Fonz. And what is Fonz? He's cool.

At the rate A-Rod's stats are going down, he'll probably produce like Edgardo Alfonzo next season.
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I wonder if Pittsburg Pirate fans have the same arguements over Jack Wilson :think:

Bottom line is A-Rod has to improve. He had a very good first season with the Yankees. He didn't hit as well as I'd like with RISP but that happens. He could've had 20 bullets that went throught the hole with runners on 1st but with a runner on 2nd was snagged. While the stats don't lie, you can't judge his performance soley by numbers.

But like I said, he had a very good year. If his name was anything other than Alex Rodriguez it would've been considered monsterous, but the fact is he's been widely considered one of the best players in the game.

I'm not going to make outrageous and ignorant posts like he "owes us a Puljos like year", thats just stupid. But with Giambi a question mark and no guaruntee Sheffield is going to repeat his MVP caliber season, Rodriguez has got to put together a year consistent with his career averages.
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Jan 16 2005, 04:44 PM
If I had bought the fact that A-Rod guaranteed a WS I wouldn't have been scarred as hell of Boston. I bought into the hype that A-Rod is the best player in the game and he wasn't even the best player on his own team. That's what pisses me off about him.

We knew it would all come down pitching and once we got into the season we knew our pitching was going to be trouble.
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Jan 16 2005, 06:32 PM
But like I said, he had a very good year. If his name was anything other than Alex Rodriguez it would've been considered monsterous, but the fact is he's been widely considered one of the best players in the game.


If A-Rod had a "monsterous" season last year, what was Puljos'? Orgasmic? FECK off.
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All time worthy? Its not even fair to compare anyone to Puljos. He's putting up Joe DiMaggio numbers with an equal number of HR's and K's.
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Jan 17 2005, 01:32 AM
But like I said, he had a very good year.  If his name was anything other than Alex Rodriguez it would've been considered monsterous, but the fact is he's been widely considered one of the best players in the game.

A-Rod didn't have a "very good" season. He had a decent year at best. And what he did before here does matter.

I'll use an old argument Strider likes to make. Say you sign a guy that averaged .325, 40 HR and 140 RBI. Then he comes here and puts up averages of .295, 30 HR, and 110 RBI. Still good numbers, but not as good as they should be.
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Uh-huh.

You put the name Jimmy Schlesinger next to .286/36 HR and that's a damn good season. But we can't swap names. Those were Alex Rodriguez's numbers. A-Rod, the $252M man. The man who is paid that much because he's done .358/57/142/40 SB before.

You know that Alejandro is paid more than twice as much as Albert Pujols? So to expect him to produce as much as Pujols, I don't think that we'd be lunatics to think that he owes the fans and the organization that. Honestly, we don't expect that. A-Rod isn't capalbe of doing Bonds/Pujols numbers. But he owes us what he's done before. Hell, the least he owes the organization is to get a SAC fly to drive in an important run from 3B. Hell, even less than that, not chase bad pitches and have an absolute wasted AB.

Rob, one of the reasons that people didn't kill Sheffield as much was because it wasn't same ol' same ol'. For most of the season, he was automatic clutch (joke intended). He was coming through in the big spots and driving in those runs. A-Rod was flailing and failing all year. Also, A-Rod's contract ($252M to Sheff's $40) and status makes people expect more of him.
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