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Mets Interested In Lowe And Pavano
Topic Started: Nov 16 2004, 06:31 AM (215 Views)
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Mets Nix Leiter's Option

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At exactly midnight last night, Al Leiter became a free man.

Yesterday was the Mets' deadline to decide whether to exercise Leiter's $10 million option for 2005, and in the early evening, they announced they would not pick it up. Instead, the Mets bought out Leiter for $2 million, making him a free agent and allowing him to speak to any other team.


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Leiter is one of two uncertainties in the 2005 rotation (free agent Kris Benson is the other). The Mets would like to bring both back, but if they let one or both go, it would free up a spot and allow them to pursue a top free-agent arm like Carl Pavano or Derek Lowe.

The Mets have told Lowe's agent, Scott Boras, they'd be interested in him, and they told Pavano's agent, Scott Shapiro, they may talk to him once they know how their pitching situation is shaping up.

The Mets, who spent most of yesterday in a baseball operations meeting, also are trying to address their offense. They are expected to speak to Richie Sexson's agent, Casey Close, soon to discuss the power-hitting free-agent first baseman.
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Lowe is terrible.
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Nov 16 2004, 06:13 AM
Lowe is terrible.

and he showed it in the playoffs :rolleyes:





Anyway, you can have Lowe, we will take Pavano :smirk:
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Nov 16 2004, 08:18 AM
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Nov 16 2004, 06:13 AM
Lowe is terrible.

and he showed it in the playoffs :rolleyes:





Anyway, you can have Lowe, we will take Pavano :smirk:

What he did in the playoffs doesn't cancel out his 5.00+ ERA during the reuglar season.
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Yea i would be careful with Lowe. He has ace potential but needs to stay in shape to be effective. When he's not in shape like during the season he sucked. But when during September he got more serious and was dominant in the playoffs. I dont want to take anything away from D-Lowe he pitched great but in the Cardinals game I think any pitcher would have done well cause they were just dead!
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skip lowe.

go hard after pavano, and if you can't get him go with clement. the guy has nasty stuff and should win 20 games one of these years.


clement
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benson
zambrano
trachsel(unless you can get rid of him)
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Lowe is a contingency plan for Benson......
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man there's a huge dropoff in free agent pitching after pedro and pavano, alot of trash!!! :thumbdown:
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well what is Lowe? 4th starter, maybe a 3rd. Just like Benson
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Nov 16 2004, 05:52 PM
well what is Lowe? 4th starter, maybe a 3rd. Just like Benson

lowe could be good again under the watch of peterson, he's a groundball pitcher and would be coming to shea, he wouldn't be a bad signing but like you always say doug, the mets can do better!!! :peace:
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Nov 16 2004, 03:11 PM
skip lowe.

go hard after pavano, and if you can't get him go with clement. the guy has nasty stuff and should win 20 games one of these years.


clement
glavine
benson
zambrano
trachsel(unless you can get rid of him)

Pavano is a one year wonder
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Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.
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Nov 16 2004, 06:21 PM
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Nov 16 2004, 03:11 PM
skip lowe.

go hard after pavano, and if you can't get him go with clement.  the guy has nasty stuff and should win 20 games one of these years.


clement
glavine
benson
zambrano
trachsel(unless you can get rid of him)

Pavano is a one year wonder

bahhhhhh, he pitched pretty damn good in the 2003 playoffs, he's gonna continue to be a very good pitcher IMO!!!
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Nov 16 2004, 06:23 PM
Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.

Lowe has as good a sinker as any pitcher in the game. When he is on he is lights out. If that could ever be harnessed consistantly, he could be dominant at Shea.
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Nov 16 2004, 06:23 PM
Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.

Lowe has as good a sinker as any pitcher in the game. When he is on he is lights out. If that could ever be harnessed consistantly, he could be dominant at Shea.

i totally agree, i mean i'd rather the mets sign someone else but lowe COULD be a top of the rotation pitcher with some help from a guy like rick peterson!!!
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Nov 16 2004, 06:23 PM
Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.

Lowe has as good a sinker as any pitcher in the game. When he is on he is lights out. If that could ever be harnessed consistantly, he could be dominant at Shea.

He had a 5.42 ERA this season and a 4.47 ERA in 2003.
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Nov 16 2004, 06:59 PM
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Nov 16 2004, 06:23 PM
Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.

Lowe has as good a sinker as any pitcher in the game. When he is on he is lights out. If that could ever be harnessed consistantly, he could be dominant at Shea.

Then why are you so opposed to Zambrano?
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Nov 16 2004, 06:23 PM
Lowe is a mediocre 5th starter.

Lowe has as good a sinker as any pitcher in the game. When he is on he is lights out. If that could ever be harnessed consistantly, he could be dominant at Shea.

Then why are you so opposed to Zambrano?

Firstly, they are different pitchers. Derek Lowe is NOT considered a POWER pitcher. Zambrano's job is to strike people out, while Lowe's job is to have the hitters put the ball in play on the ground. Zambrano at his best hasn't come CLOSE to Lowe at his best.

and we didn't trade the top 2 pitching prospect in baseball for Lowe. A lot of people would be a lot easier on the Mets and Zambrano if they didn't trade their best prospect for him. I mean would you rather have Zambrano, or would you rather have held on to Kazmir and deal him for one of the A's big 3 this off season. That is out of the question now.
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Yeah, it was a bad trade, but you're saying if he could control his sinker, he could be great. NJDevils is always saying that if Zambrano could lower his walks, he could be great.

It's kinda the same thing.
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Nov 16 2004, 08:15 PM
Yeah, it was a bad trade, but you're saying if he could control his sinker, he could be great. NJDevils is always saying that if Zambrano could lower his walks, he could be great.

It's kinda the same thing.

No question, but Lowe has already shown in years past that he can. Zambrano hasn't shown that.
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If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.
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Nov 16 2004, 08:18 PM
If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.

He shouldn't be. Yeah I would take Pedro, Pavano, and Radke over him, but that's about it. I'll take him over Clement, Perez, Morris, or Leiter. Actually I think it is pretty even between him and Benson. The only thing leaning me to Benson is the 2 years age difference.
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If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.

He shouldn't be. Yeah I would take Pedro, Pavano, and Radke over him, but that's about it. I'll take him over Clement, Perez, Morris, or Leiter. Actually I think it is pretty even between him and Benson. The only thing leaning me to Benson is the 2 years age difference.

I would take all of those pitchers over Lowe.

[size=23]5.42[/size]
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Nov 16 2004, 08:43 PM
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If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.

He shouldn't be. Yeah I would take Pedro, Pavano, and Radke over him, but that's about it. I'll take him over Clement, Perez, Morris, or Leiter. Actually I think it is pretty even between him and Benson. The only thing leaning me to Benson is the 2 years age difference.

I would take all of those pitchers over Lowe.

[size=23]5.42[/size]

relax timo, i notice you like to overreact and post in bold when you think someone is wrong, shove those bold letters up your ass! anyway i think benson will be re-signed, a good replacement for leiter would be radke, i heard from i think verducci or one these these famous baseball writers that he'd love to play for the mets, i've always been a fan of his, he'd be a good signing!!!
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Nov 16 2004, 09:49 PM
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If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.

He shouldn't be. Yeah I would take Pedro, Pavano, and Radke over him, but that's about it. I'll take him over Clement, Perez, Morris, or Leiter. Actually I think it is pretty even between him and Benson. The only thing leaning me to Benson is the 2 years age difference.

I would take all of those pitchers over Lowe.

[size=23]5.42[/size]

relax timo, i notice you like to overreact and post in bold when you think someone is wrong, shove those bold letters up your ass! anyway i think benson will be re-signed, a good replacement for leiter would be radke, i heard from i think verducci or one these these famous baseball writers that he'd love to play for the mets, i've always been a fan of his, he'd be a good signing!!!

How can you argue in favor of a 5.42 ERA?
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I noticed you forgot to post his 3.88 ERA in the AL.

And how you forgot to post how he comes up big everytime he is in a tight spot in the playoffs.
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Nov 16 2004, 08:52 PM
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Nov 16 2004, 09:49 PM
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Nov 16 2004, 08:18 PM
If Benson doesn't sign with the Mets, Lowe is the last option.

He shouldn't be. Yeah I would take Pedro, Pavano, and Radke over him, but that's about it. I'll take him over Clement, Perez, Morris, or Leiter. Actually I think it is pretty even between him and Benson. The only thing leaning me to Benson is the 2 years age difference.

I would take all of those pitchers over Lowe.

[size=23]5.42[/size]

relax timo, i notice you like to overreact and post in bold when you think someone is wrong, shove those bold letters up your ass! anyway i think benson will be re-signed, a good replacement for leiter would be radke, i heard from i think verducci or one these these famous baseball writers that he'd love to play for the mets, i've always been a fan of his, he'd be a good signing!!!

How can you argue in favor of a 5.42 ERA?

his ERA sucks the last 2 seasons but he has been good before and he has pitched pretty damn good in the playoffs, lowe wouldn't be my first option but he'd be a good option if the mets didn't re-sign leiter!!!
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Nov 16 2004, 09:59 PM
I noticed you forgot to post his 3.88 ERA in the AL.

And how you forgot to post how he comes up big everytime he is in a tight spot in the playoffs.

It's a moot point, the Mets won't need him in the playoffs.
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Nov 16 2004, 09:21 PM
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Nov 16 2004, 09:59 PM
I noticed you forgot to post his 3.88 ERA in the AL.

And how you forgot to post how he comes up big everytime he is in a tight spot in the playoffs.

It's a moot point, the Mets won't need him in the playoffs.

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