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Topic Started: Nov 14 2004, 05:45 AM (90 Views)
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Naysayers Need To Put A Cork In It

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Sammy Sosa is the same age as Gary Sheffield. Start there. Sosa just turned 36, Sheffield turns 36 next week. It doesn't mean Sosa had the year that Sheffield had, or was any kind of MVP candidate. Sosa used to be the MVP, and hit 60 home runs every season. He doesn't do that anymore, and isn't going to do it again. He only knocked in 80 runs last season. Sheffield knocked in a ton for the Yankees, even if he did have Jeter and A-Rod hitting in front of him.

But in a year when he was supposed to have turned into some kind of bum, he hit 35 home runs. Sheffield hit 36. Why is it the crime of the century for the Mets to consider making a deal for him?


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Can Minaya do it? Maybe he has a 50-50 shot, the way things look right now. But if the Mets can somehow get Sosa's salary under control, and get rid of Floyd - who started talking about retirement in the middle of last season - in the process, why would this be the worst move in the history of the franchise?

If the debate is Sosa or Floyd, there is no debate. I would rather have Sosa in a Mets uniform than Cliff Floyd any day of the week. Even if his bat slowed down this season, and there were times when he seemed to be swinging a butterfly net, I would rather have his bat in the Mets' lineup than Mike Piazza's, off what we saw from Piazza last season. I would rather have Sosa than Shawn Green.


he's right!!! :peace:
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this article made me feel better if it is to happen. but i still am not looking forward to it.

the one difference in the sheffield comparison is sheff's bat hasn't slowed at all. also sheffield never strike's out, while sosa's bat might be slowing and he strikes out over 130 times a year.
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This story should make you feel bad about it again!


Sosa's deal could be revised for trade

November 14, 2004

BY CHRIS DE LUCA Staff Reporter




One of the key hurdles in trading Sammy Sosa might be cleared soon because the players association reportedly is leaning toward giving the OK for the slugger's contract with the Cubs to be reworked.

The Newark (N.J.) Star-Ledger quoted a source Saturday saying the union is open to a revised contract because the key issues don't involve guaranteed money.

The current deal provides Sosa with two key bonuses if he is traded. The first calls for his $18 million option for 2006 to kick in immediately, and the second involves a $3.5 million severance package to be paid within 30 days of the trade.

Because Sosa wants to exit Chicago as much as the Cubs want to trade him, his agent, Adam Katz, has been speaking with union officials to rework the contract to eliminate the automatic option for 2006.

The union balked at a similar move last winter, when Alex Rodriguez sought a restructuring of his landmark contract to accommodate a trade to the Boston Red Sox.

The union blocked that trade because Rodriguez wanted to restructure the remaining seven years and $179 million left on his contract. Gene Orza, the union's associate general counsel, said such a restructuring would have cut the overall value of the contract, which was a 10-year, $252 million package Rodriguez signed with the Texas Rangers. Orza stressed the collective-bargaining agreement allows a player's contract to be altered only if the player benefits from the changes.

Katz's argument centers on the idea that even if Sosa stays in Chicago, there is little hope the Cubs would pick up that option for 2006, making a restructuring more palatable for the union.

A concession might involve the Cubs allowing Sosa to negotiate a contract extension with the New York Mets -- or another team -- before a trade is completed.

Sending Sosa to the Mets likely would bring outfielder Cliff Floyd to the Cubs. The Mets would have to deal catcher Mike Piazza, who is due $16 million next season, to take on Sosa's salary. That might set the stage for a three-way deal involving the Los Angeles Dodgers, who are interested in Piazza.

Asked about the Star-Ledger report, Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Saturday night he hasn't been involved in Katz's reported discussions with the union.

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A concession might involve the Cubs allowing Sosa to negotiate a contract extension with the New York Mets -- or another team -- before a trade is completed.


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Nov 14 2004, 04:18 PM
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A concession might involve the Cubs allowing Sosa to negotiate a contract extension with the New York Mets -- or another team -- before a trade is completed.


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If we get Sosa, I want him for ONE year
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Nov 14 2004, 04:21 PM
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A concession might involve the Cubs allowing Sosa to negotiate a contract extension with the New York Mets -- or another team -- before a trade is completed.


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If we get Sosa, I want him for ONE year

so do i!!! :peace:
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Hey guys, long time no talk. I haven't been on this forum much. :serious:

I do agree that Sosa is better than Green and Floyd. I'd pick Sosa over either one of those two any day of the week. I'd be sad to see Piazza go.....real sad, actually.....but I'm leaning towards the position that this may just have to be done.
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If Sosa becomes a met we better get some prospects with him. Or else we'd be the dumbest franchise in sports.
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Nov 15 2004, 12:28 AM
If Sosa becomes a met we better get some prospects with him. Or else we'd be the dumbest franchise in sports.

the mets aren't going to get any prospects in a deal for sosa and when you think about it the mets will only be getting him for one season since the mlbpa will likely let him waive his 2006 option year and also lets be real, sosa is better then floyd, way better!!! :peace:
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Nov 15 2004, 12:28 AM
If Sosa becomes a met we better get some prospects with him. Or else we'd be the dumbest franchise in sports.

No prospects. the only thing they'll get is $$$ to help offset sosa's hefty salary. ;)
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Nov 15 2004, 12:34 AM
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If Sosa becomes a met we better get some prospects with him. Or else we'd be the dumbest franchise in sports.

No prospects. the only thing they'll get is $$$ to help offset sosa's hefty salary. ;)

good enough for me!!! :thumbup:
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Nov 15 2004, 12:36 AM
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Nov 15 2004, 12:34 AM
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Nov 15 2004, 12:28 AM
If Sosa becomes a met we better get some prospects with him. Or else we'd be the dumbest franchise in sports.

No prospects. the only thing they'll get is $$$ to help offset sosa's hefty salary. ;)

good enough for me!!! :thumbup:

Me too. :thumbup2:
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Why would any Mets fan want Sosa?
The Mets have got to sign Beltran, if they don't @ least make a very hard push for him then the owner should be strung up the flagpole w/ a baseball bat shoved up his cheapass. :evilgrin:
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Alright Sosa for one year isn't so bad but we've got to get someone to offset his strikeouts. I expect him and Cameron to probably challenge Dunn's strikeout record if we have a bad year. One thing those two have in common is that they tend to try to hit the long ball in every at bat. Maybe signing Magglio isn't such a bad thing now
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Nov 15 2004, 10:48 AM
Alright Sosa for one year isn't so bad but we've got to get someone to offset his strikeouts. I expect him and Cameron to probably challenge Dunn's strikeout record if we have a bad year. One thing those two have in common is that they tend to try to hit the long ball in every at bat. Maybe signing Magglio isn't such a bad thing now

that's what i've been saying, signing a guy like magglio would offset any K's sosa would bring, maggs and wright would probably be batting back to back (3rd and cleanup) anyway!!!
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