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Union Would Let Sosa Waive Clause If Traded
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Topic Started: Nov 13 2004, 12:53 AM (56 Views)
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TheOne
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Nov 13 2004, 12:53 AM
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Sosa's Price Tag Could Drop
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Alex Rodriguez would have been the Red Sox shortstop in 2004, if not for the Major League Baseball Players Association. The players' union forbade Rodriguez from significantly diminishing the value of his 10-year, $252-million contract, thereby voiding a trade that had been arranged between Boston and Texas.
A year later, Sammy Sosa appears willing to forego some money in order to leave the Cubs -- with the Mets ranking as Sosa's top suitors. This time, under Sosa's circumstances, the union appears less likely to get in the way.
Which could make a Sosa-Mets marriage quite feasible, after all. The Mets and Cubs spoke multiple times this past week at the general manager's meetings about Sosa. Nothing is imminent, but the Mets' strong interest in Sosa is apparent.
According to a source with knowledge of the situation, the players association would probably let Sosa waive an expensive clause in his contract without the Mets -- or another team -- having to provide ample compensation.
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MastaR316
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Nov 13 2004, 01:10 AM
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What the f*ck is it with Sosa? He's way past his prime! :wall:
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Nov 13 2004, 01:16 AM
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So is Piazza, but he only has this one year left, while Sosa has 3 (I think). I wouldn't trade for him.
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Nov 13 2004, 01:19 AM
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Neither would I.
Why dont the Mets do what the Nets do: Let go of their best young players, decide to move to New Jersey, and sign really shitty players.
It works i sware.
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Nov 13 2004, 01:21 AM
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- Nov 13 2004, 12:16 AM
So is Piazza, but he only has this one year left, while Sosa has 3 (I think). I wouldn't trade for him.
No Sosa has two left if he is traded (2005 + 2006). But if this article is right, Sosa would waive that clause for the second year and we would only have to pay him for next year and then he would be a FA next year. This is now a viable option. I wouldn't have done it before, but now I would. If it is Cliff Floyd (who has 2 guaranteed years left) for Sosa with some cash thrown in by the Cubs, this makes sense. Like him or not, Sosa stays on the field, unlike Floyd.
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Nov 13 2004, 02:28 AM
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- Nov 13 2004, 12:16 AM
So is Piazza, but he only has this one year left, while Sosa has 3 (I think). I wouldn't trade for him.
No Sosa has two left if he is traded (2005 + 2006). But if this article is right, Sosa would waive that clause for the second year and we would only have to pay him for next year and then he would be a FA next year. This is now a viable option. I wouldn't have done it before, but now I would. If it is Cliff Floyd (who has 2 guaranteed years left) for Sosa with some cash thrown in by the Cubs, this makes sense. Like him or not, Sosa stays on the field, unlike Floyd.
He could hurt his back sneezing again.
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TheOne
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Nov 13 2004, 02:38 AM
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- Chilli Cheese
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So is Piazza, but he only has this one year left, while Sosa has 3 (I think). I wouldn't trade for him.
No Sosa has two left if he is traded (2005 + 2006). But if this article is right, Sosa would waive that clause for the second year and we would only have to pay him for next year and then he would be a FA next year. This is now a viable option. I wouldn't have done it before, but now I would. If it is Cliff Floyd (who has 2 guaranteed years left) for Sosa with some cash thrown in by the Cubs, this makes sense. Like him or not, Sosa stays on the field, unlike Floyd.
excellent points all around, sosa is better then floyd period!!!
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Nov 13 2004, 05:28 AM
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Sosa More Than Just An Option
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Essentially, Sosa and the union both know he will never see the $18 million. He only gets it if he is traded, but he will never be traded if it means adding that much cabbage to his tab. And the union understands Sosa is so miserable in Chicago that he is willing to restructure the option to allow him to leave.
The Players' Association may require some kind of compensation for Sosa to withdraw from the option, perhaps a buyout, a no-trade clause, a luxury box in the stadium and a hotel suite on the road. Or he could try to get an extension out of the Mets.
Even if the option is waived completely, the Mets and Cubs would still have to figure out a way to even out the remaining guaranteed money for next year, and that won't be easy. Mets officials have made it clear to the Cubs that in order to do the trade they won't take on any additional money.
Sosa is owed $17 million as a base salary for 2005. There is a $4.5 million buyout on his current contract. He also has severance pay of $3.5 million for a previously exercised player option in 2004. That's $25 million guaranteed. Ouch.
The Mets want to trade Cliff Floyd in the deal, and Chicago is receptive to that idea. But Floyd is owed $13 million over the next two years ($6.5 million per season), so there is still a $12 million difference that needs to be overcome -- or $18.5 million toward the Mets 2005 payroll.
Here's one way to do it. If the Mets were able to include Mike Piazza, then maybe the financial parameters could be met. Piazza is owed $15 million, plus $500,000 if he is traded. If the Mets gave Chicago Floyd and Piazza plus $1.75 million in cash (splitting the difference between the three contracts) for Sosa, each team would end up paying $26.75 million.
Obviously, the Cubs would be getting two players for the one, but the advantage for the Mets would be in getting out from under Floyd's $6.5 million payment in 2006.
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Nov 13 2004, 05:29 AM
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Can't we just get rid of Floyd and not get Sosa? :serious:
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Nov 13 2004, 05:33 AM
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- Nov 13 2004, 04:29 AM
Can't we just get rid of Floyd and not get Sosa? :serious:
nope, nobody is gonna take floyd even though he doesn't make that much money, that's what happens when you have a player in his 30's that can't stay on the field! anyway if sosa waives the option year on his contract then the mets would only be getting him for one season and would pay pretty much nothing for his services, that's a very good deal for the mets!!! :peace:
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Nov 13 2004, 05:34 AM
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Mets, Cubs Talking About Sosa
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Toting his luggage, Omar Minaya strolled through the Ritz-Carlton lobby, hopped in a cab and prepared to board an airplane out of Florida.
The GM meetings may be over, but Minaya is ready to begin his offseason.
"We have a plan of attack," the Mets GM said, "but we want to start implementing it."
And the first seeds of that agenda were planted these last four days at the GM meetings. Minaya talked with teams, discussed players and informed agents of his interest in their free agents. Now the next step is taking that talk and turning it into action.
"I know we laid some groundwork," Minaya said. "We have some offers out there. Teams have made us offers that we're going to evaluate."
The Mets will have a baseball operations meeting on Monday, and Minaya and his lieutenants will have plenty to discuss. On the trade front, the Mets have had multiple discussions with several teams, including with the Cubs about a deal for Sammy Sosa.
The trade would also involve sending Cliff Floyd to the Cubs, but the Mets would need to get money back from Chicago because of Sosa's gargantuan contract; if traded, he would be owed a minumum of $39.5 million over the next two years.
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