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Instant replay coming soon?
Topic Started: Nov 10 2004, 09:10 PM (174 Views)
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KEY BISCAYNE, Fla. (AP) -- Brian Cashman wanted to make this perfectly clear: The umpires were correct when they called Alex Rodriguez out for interference on that crazy play during the AL championship series.

``They got it completely right, 100 percent,'' the New York Yankees' general manager said this week.

``But you would hate to have a game, or a series or even a season come down to a play where they miss it and instant replay could have helped,'' he said. ``So as far as instant replay, I'm in favor of it.''

Now, after a pennant race and postseason dotted with reversed rulings, baseball will get another chance to see who else wants to give replay a look.

The topic is on the agenda for Thursday at the GM meetings. And there seems to be growing support among teams to join the NFL, NBA and NHL in using instant replay on calls such as fair or foul and homer or not, but definitely not balls and strikes.


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As long as it doesn't turn into reviewing every other pitch, I'm fine with it.
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They said it's gonna be just fair/foul, no pitches.
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fair or foul and homer or not


Yes. Get it right. :dance:
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BTW, I think they should add things like out/trapped for balls in the OF.
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Nov 10 2004, 09:31 PM
They said it's gonna be just fair/foul, no pitches.

Sounds great. It's about time.
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Nov 10 2004, 08:33 PM
BTW, I think they should add things like out/trapped for balls in the OF.

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What about plays at the plate and at the bases?
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Nov 10 2004, 08:45 PM
What about plays at the plate and at the bases?

I think there should be umpire discretion to use it, except no pitches/balls-strikes. ;)
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How about Balks?
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Balks are as rare as BostonBoy getting a boner. I wouldn't waste my time reviewing those.
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I think it should be entirely up to the Umps to decide when to use it. If they feel they need it, then OK. Otherwise their original call stands... :peace:
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"Balks are as rare as BostonBoy getting a boner. I wouldn't waste my time reviewing those".


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Yeah. As much as strikes and balls can be controversial, instant replay for that sh*t would take too much time.
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Nov 10 2004, 09:28 PM
Yeah. As much as strikes and balls can be controversial, instant replay for that sh*t would take too much time.


Yeh, it would be like basketball. Stop after every couple pitches to "review". Sheeeesh! :sleep:

no need to slow baseball down. it's slow enough already, with unmanagable 5hr 27min games. :serious:
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Nov 10 2004, 08:50 PM
Balks are as rare as BostonBoy getting a boner. I wouldn't waste my time reviewing those.

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WELL....WELL....THE FU©K....WELL. Ain't this something? When I brought this up over two years ago nobody agreed with me. I read more bullsh*t than anyone's eyes deserved to see. At the time I told you that there would be a play and your favorite team would get screwed in the post season by an umpire's bad call (90% of them are wrong) and you would want replay. Later that year, Derek Jeter got called out on strikes with the bases loaded in a key situation on a pitch from Percival that was both high and outside. It was a joke of a call by the umpires. I brought up reply again, still you disagreed with me. Read more bullsh*t. Before I continue, I'd just like to say: f*ck all of you.

I just skimmed through the quoted part of the article but from what I saw, its just going to be discussed. You do know that its not going to accepted right? Baseball is a such a f*ck-up and these stiffs in suits would never want to make such a big change, especially when no revenue is involved. <- They'll jump at the chance to put Spiderman on a f*cking base but replay, "Ohhhhh!" To me, replay makes more sense than QuesTech. BUT, we'll hear bullsh*t about tradition and umpires' interpretation and human error being part of the game and the legnth of games. I'm expecting it so I probably won't even get mad.

This is how replay should go and its what I had said over two years ago: Each team is given two challenges (like football). This keeps managers like Lou Piniella or Bobby Cox from abusing it and forcing the game to be held up. It forces the managers to sit on the challenges and only use them during crucial parts of the game on questionable calls. Anything can be challenged, including balls and strikes (everyone, gasp and cringe). There's no reason why a game should be decided by a bad call. There's no reason why a game should be decided by an umpire. It doesn't even have to be a little peepshow thing like the NFL uses, just save time and have the ump look up at the stadium TV. This is the ONLY fair thing to do and its a joke that it hasn't already been instituted. And a REAL BIG "f*ck you" to anyone who still doesn't agree with me.

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They should only use it for fair/foul balls and HR's. Nothing else.
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Nov 10 2004, 11:44 PM
They should only use it for fair/foul balls and HR's. Nothing else.

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And a REAL BIG "f*ck you" to anyone who still doesn't agree with me.


Why not balls and strikes? Would it be the equivalent of cursing God and your mother? Why is it tabboo? I don't get it. It can't be because of the legnth of the game. It wouldn't be with 2 challenges. It wouldn't take that long to look up at a screen and tell if its a strike or not. One shot from the CF camera and another from the overhead. That's all. Why? 'Splain that to me.
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When the robots take over, everything will be OK.
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Nov 10 2004, 11:59 PM
When the robots take over, everything will be OK.

(1) You can't explain to me why balls and strikes shouldn't be reviewable. You're just stuck in "bullsh*t-tradition-bullsh*t" mode.
(2) I know the idea for the robots is silly and it was meant as a joke, but I'd seriously rather see that than these overpaid pricks and their bad calls. How many times have we seen/made posts like, "This umpire has been squeezing Moose," or "That was a terrible call," or "We would have been out of this inning if the ump had made the right call," "He's calling that a strike for the other pitcher," or "Angel Hernandez is an a-hole"? The idea of officiating is to get the calls right so that the game is fair and is decided by the players/manager's performance and only the players/manger's performance. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. I'm the only person being logical. <- Logical about the replay, not the robots.
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strikes and balls are such a judgement call, but then again, so is whether it was a catch or not.
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Nov 11 2004, 12:18 AM
strikes and balls are such a judgement call, but then again, so is whether it was a catch or not.

Every call is a judgement call. But right/wrong is right/wrong. That point is to get the call right. As I said in one of my other posts in here, all they have to do is show a reply from the CF camera (angle from behind the pitcher that most networks show for most of the game - for high/low) and another replay from the overhead camera (inside/outside) and that's it. It wouldn't take more than 15 seconds. BUT NOBODY HAS LOGIC!
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balls and strikes would slow down the game even more, it makes no sense, that should be the umpires judgement, i don't want baseball to turn into the NFL where they will take 10 years just to get a f*cking call right, i like it for fair/foul calls, that's it!!!
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Nov 11 2004, 12:30 AM
balls and strikes would slow down the game even more, it makes no sense, that should be the umpires judgement, i don't want baseball to turn into the NFL where they will take 10 years just to get a f*cking call right, i like it for fair/foul calls, that's it!!!

[size=14]AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! READ MY MOTHER f*cking POST! f*ck f*ck. GODDAM, I'M SICK OF THIS bullsh*t. WHAT THE f*ck IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. f*ck! READ THE FUCKIGN POST![/size]
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Nobody reads your long ass posts. :)
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Nov 10 2004, 11:33 PM
Nobody reads your long ass posts. :)

exactly!!! :peace:
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If you guys knew how much stuff like this infuriated me. Actually, you'd just do it more if you knew how pissed I get. I'm usually always calm, but stuff like this just sets me off. I've addressed everything in all my posts in this thread, then I see a post talking about something I already addressed.

Lemme keep this short for you.....

(1) It doesn't take long to determine balls/strikes. Just show the replay on the stadium screen and show 2 replays from different angles. One replay from the CF camera (it shows high or low. its what we see). The other replay from the overhead camera (shows inside or outside). It doesn't take more than 15 seconds.

(2) Since both managers (in my system) would only have 2 challenges, this isn't something that you would have to deal with 16 times a game on every questionable pitch. The managers would have to save it for key situations late in the games when a bad call can directly affect win/loss.
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Too long for me.
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Nov 10 2004, 11:49 PM
Too long for me.

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