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Mets Considering Piazza For Green Swap
Topic Started: Nov 10 2004, 01:51 AM (329 Views)
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So he's more feared, how does that help him? He doesn't get more hits or drives in more runs because of that.

If it improves the team, you should do it, and moving Piazza for Green does just that.
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Nov 10 2004, 11:41 PM
So he's more feared, how does that help him? He doesn't get more hits or drives in more runs because of that.

If it improves the team, you should do it, and moving Piazza for Green does just that.

Like I said........Green isn't enough improvement over Piazza to immensely help the Mets.

The Mets aren't going to win 20 more games or jump 3 spots in the standings just because of Shawn Green. They might as well just keep Piazza, because he can still come up huge in big spots.
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.

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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.

:o

:laugh2:

Justin's eating it already I see, so I couldn't if I wanted to!
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.

piazza is a better hitter so please stop with the nonsense!!!
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.

:o

:laugh2:

Justin's eating it already I see, so I couldn't if I wanted to!

nah but i hear the dutch love to eat alot of ass!!! :peace:
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.

piazza is a better hitter so please stop with the nonsense!!!

I don't think so, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. However, if Piazza is a better hitter, it's only just! Defensively, Green is a 90x better. Therefore, whatever the difference is, is more than made up with defense. We would be getting the better of this deal.
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.

:o

:laugh2:

Justin's eating it already I see, so I couldn't if I wanted to!

nah but i hear the dutch love to eat alot of ass!!! :peace:

That might be true. But I don't care what the Dutch do because I'm not Dutch!
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.

piazza is a better hitter so please stop with the nonsense!!!

I don't think so, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. However, if Piazza is a better hitter, it's only just! Defensively, Green is a 90x better. Therefore, whatever the difference is, is more than made up with defense. We would be getting the better of this deal.

let's relax, yes green is better defensively but he isn't j.t. snow at 1st base, to me it's better to keep piazza cause he is a better hitter then green and leaves spots open at 1st base and rightfield which is one of the positions green would be playing if he was traded over here, the mets can keep piazza for 1 more year, it won't hurt anyone!!!
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as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side.


:fyou1: Eat my ass.

:o

:laugh2:

Justin's eating it already I see, so I couldn't if I wanted to!

nah but i hear the dutch love to eat alot of ass!!! :peace:

That might be true. But I don't care what the Dutch do because I'm not Dutch!

:please:
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.

piazza is a better hitter so please stop with the nonsense!!!

I don't think so, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. However, if Piazza is a better hitter, it's only just! Defensively, Green is a 90x better. Therefore, whatever the difference is, is more than made up with defense. We would be getting the better of this deal.

let's relax, yes green is better defensively but he isn't j.t. snow at 1st base, to me it's better to keep piazza cause he is a better hitter then green and leaves spots open at 1st base and rightfield which is one of the positions green would be playing if he was traded over here, the mets can keep piazza for 1 more year, it won't hurt anyone!!!

Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.
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Nov 10 2004, 11:59 PM
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Nov 10 2004, 08:04 PM
I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade.

what are you talking about, the mets wouldn't be getting rid of his contract, him and green get paid the same amount of money, the trade makes no sense!!!

We lose virtually nothing in the hitting department, but gain in the defensive department. It's an upgrade just about every way you look at it.

piazza is a better hitter so please stop with the nonsense!!!

I don't think so, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that. However, if Piazza is a better hitter, it's only just! Defensively, Green is a 90x better. Therefore, whatever the difference is, is more than made up with defense. We would be getting the better of this deal.

let's relax, yes green is better defensively but he isn't j.t. snow at 1st base, to me it's better to keep piazza cause he is a better hitter then green and leaves spots open at 1st base and rightfield which is one of the positions green would be playing if he was traded over here, the mets can keep piazza for 1 more year, it won't hurt anyone!!!

Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.

that's f*cking nonsense, piazza could never throw runners out so it doesn't matter, f*ck the runners, besides not throwing out runners he's a pretty good defensive catcher!!!
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Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.

that's f*cking nonsense, piazza could never throw runners out so it doesn't matter, f*ck the runners, besides not throwing out runners he's a pretty good defensive catcher!!!

That's like saying "Take away our 91 losses last year, and we're unbeaten!"
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Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.

that's f*cking nonsense, piazza could never throw runners out so it doesn't matter, f*ck the runners, besides not throwing out runners he's a pretty good defensive catcher!!!

That's like saying "Take away our 91 losses last year, and we're unbeaten!"

silliness, green also has a batting average of .203 at shea, the lowest for any stadium he has played in, it would be stupid to trade for him!!!
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Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.

that's f*cking nonsense, piazza could never throw runners out so it doesn't matter, f*ck the runners, besides not throwing out runners he's a pretty good defensive catcher!!!

That's like saying "Take away our 91 losses last year, and we're unbeaten!"

silliness, green also has a batting average of .203 at shea, the lowest for any stadium he has played in, it would be stupid to trade for him!!!

What's your point? We ain't getting Pujols for Piazza. Green is about the most we can hope for in return for him, and that is still an upgrade!
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Simply put, I'd like Piazza to stay and play first base next year so we can keep his bat in the lineup. However, the Mets aren't leaning in that direction, so runners will be running all over us next year if stays. That's why I'd do this deal.

that's f*cking nonsense, piazza could never throw runners out so it doesn't matter, f*ck the runners, besides not throwing out runners he's a pretty good defensive catcher!!!

That's like saying "Take away our 91 losses last year, and we're unbeaten!"

silliness, green also has a batting average of .203 at shea, the lowest for any stadium he has played in, it would be stupid to trade for him!!!

What's your point? We ain't getting Pujols for Piazza. Green is about the most we can hope for in return for him, and that is still an upgrade!

my point is green isn't much of an upgrade, we all know piazza can hit at shea, green hasn't even shown he can hit a shea, might as well just keep piazza for one more year!!!
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Say Piazza does get traded. I don't want Wilson and Phillips platooning at catcher.

If Piazza goes, we need to find an everyday catcher.
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Greg Zaun is a free agent.
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Greg Zaun is a free agent.

enough of greg zaun, i don't want his ass!!!
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So you wouldn't take .269, 6 HR, and a .367 OBP from your 8 hitter?
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LOL, yeah that'll go over big.

Minaya trades Piazza for Green, and then gets Greg Zaun to play catcher. He'll be laughed out of office.

It isn't going to improve the team enough to be noticed. Like I've said, the difference is negligable. Green being here and Piazza being gone isn't going to make us a playoff team overnight.
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Of course not, you're not gonna get a big difference maker for Piazza. But if you sign Delgado or Ordonez, you're gonna be a lot better.
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So you wouldn't take .269, 6 HR, and a .367 OBP from your 8 hitter?

nope, i'd rather just keep piazza and bat diaz 8th!!! :peace:
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