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| Mets Considering Piazza For Green Swap | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 10 2004, 01:51 AM (331 Views) | |
| Njdevils350 | Nov 10 2004, 06:25 PM Post #31 |
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go look at the stats in the other said. Whoever sys Green is the better hotter is just full of sh*t, im sorry |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 06:27 PM Post #32 |
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:yes: |
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| timotime | Nov 10 2004, 06:36 PM Post #33 |
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Going by the stats, they are equal. Then factor in defense. |
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| Njdevils350 | Nov 10 2004, 06:37 PM Post #34 |
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no they're not equal, Piazza is clearly better |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 06:39 PM Post #35 |
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timo, piazza is a better hitter, always has been, always will be!!! |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 06:39 PM Post #36 |
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How is that? Green had a higher OPS, higher slugging percentage, more HR and more RBI. |
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| Njdevils350 | Nov 10 2004, 06:40 PM Post #37 |
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2003: .355 OBP .280 AVG 19 HR 85 RBI 2004: .352 OBP .266 AVG 28 HR 86 RBI Despite the fact that we need an lefthanded bat, you cant put this guy in the middle of the lineup. Seriously those are pretty much Cliff Floyd type numbers. And stop treating Piazza like trash, last year was a lost yrar for him with the position switch and not having Floyd to protect him for half the year. Prorated numbers from '03 (injury) and '04 *Total Numbers Divided By .59 (Percentage of Games Missed) *2003: .383 OBP .329 AVG 29 HR 91 RBI 2004: .362 OBP .266 AVG 20 HR 54 RBI (25 less games than Greenn) |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 06:41 PM Post #38 |
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green played more games and your only going by last year, again piazza is the better hitter, by fear factor (no not the show) alone piazza is better!!! |
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| Ray | Nov 10 2004, 06:48 PM Post #39 |
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Drop it amit.......you're just plain wrong. |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 06:53 PM Post #40 |
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No, I'm not. You guys are saying "well, if he was healthy, blah blah blah", "he had to switch positions", etc. Guess what though. Green switched positions too. He moved from RF to 1b, and did a pretty good job there, unlike Piazza. And older players are going to get hurt, you can't avoid that. You and Justin are hanging on to the past, but you should look to the future. |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:00 PM Post #41 |
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please, piazza is moving from the single most demanding position of catcher to 1st base, there's a difference, the truth is piazza is still a better hitter then green!!! |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 07:04 PM Post #42 |
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How is he better? The stats are almost identical. |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:13 PM Post #43 |
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piazza is a better "hitter", green has holes in his swing and isn't a great situational hitter, with piazza he'll give you a homerun when you need it, he'll hit you a single when you need it, a double, hit the opposite way, etc., that's what makes mike a better hitter!!! |
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| timotime | Nov 10 2004, 07:17 PM Post #44 |
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Huh? Unless you've watched green plan an entire season, how can you say that? |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:21 PM Post #45 |
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i've seen green enough to know that, not every baseball fan see's green play everyday but everyone knows he is a streaky hitter!!! |
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| timotime | Nov 10 2004, 07:27 PM Post #46 |
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As is Piazza. |
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| FloydNbunch | Nov 10 2004, 07:35 PM Post #47 |
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Does WrightNbunch sound good?
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Better to be streaky than not his at all like Piazza. Instead of thinking back on all that Mike has done for the Mets you should look to the future of the team. Green could be here 3 or 4 years down the road. Piazza will definitley be gone after this upcoming year |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:36 PM Post #48 |
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not as much as green, i would say green and hidalgo are the 2 most streakiest hitters in the game!!! |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:39 PM Post #49 |
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green has been mediocre at best the last 2 seasons, the mets aren't going to have him around for the next 4 years, it would be stupid to have him around for another 4 years, and stop the sh*t, if it was up to you the mets would be replacing leiter and piazza with eric milton and this a-hole shawn green, thanks but no thanks, i'll take the old crew!!! |
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| timotime | Nov 10 2004, 07:43 PM Post #50 |
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:lmao: How about Jeromy Burnitz? |
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| TheOne | Nov 10 2004, 07:49 PM Post #51 |
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laugh all you want timo it's the truth, as for burnitz he's streaky but definitely not as much as green and hidalgo but as you know burnitz has a special place in my fat heart as well!!! :peace: |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 08:08 PM Post #52 |
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Matsui is as streaky as they come, but he's still awesome. |
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| timotime | Nov 10 2004, 08:15 PM Post #53 |
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How quickly you forget the times when Burnitz would go more than a month without a homerun. |
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| champ4life | Nov 10 2004, 09:04 PM Post #54 |
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I've been torn on this issue for a while, and after much thought, as usual I've decided to go on the opposite side of Ray, because that's usually the more logical side. Getting rid of Piazza's contract and replacing him with a better defensive first baseman who can hit just as much just makes too much sense not to do. We'd then have the good defense all around the infield and we can really go hard after a Beltran. If I'm Minaya and wanted to make the team better, there's no reason why I wouldn't do this trade. |
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| YankeeBaseball | Nov 10 2004, 09:12 PM Post #55 |
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Green > Piazza offensively, defensively, health and flexibility, plus younger. Case closed. :peace: |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 09:17 PM Post #56 |
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There really is no reason for the Mets not to do this. They're improving their club, and if Wilpon is willing to shell out some moeny for Ordoņez and/or Delgado, they could have a hell of a team in Shea. Then say you trade for a guy like A.J. Pierzynski or sign Greg Zaun, they would have a really good lineup. SS - Reyes 2B - Matsui LF - Ordoņez 1B - Delgado 3B - Wright RF - Green CF - Cameron C - Zaun That's a pretty f*cking good lineup. |
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| amit | Nov 10 2004, 09:17 PM Post #57 |
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:yes: |
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| metsrule101 | Nov 11 2004, 12:33 AM Post #58 |
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Let me end this argument. Ask and pitcher, manager, or fan of other teams and they'll tell you Piazza is more feared. Green wont contribute much more then Piazza that will make the Mets a playoff contender. Green is a common player we can get the some type of player he's not that rare!!! Im sorry I just dont see any point in dealing Piazza. I still think Piazza's got something left in the tank if he stays at catcher 120 games. |
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| metsrule101 | Nov 11 2004, 12:34 AM Post #59 |
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No its not. Thats not what I want to see. |
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| Ray | Nov 11 2004, 12:38 AM Post #60 |
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Exactly. The difference between the two is negligable........Piazza is more feared than Green, and anything different that Green can bring to the table isn't enough to help the Mets immensely and put them over the top. There's just no point to it. Might as well just keep Piazza. |
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