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Mets Considering Piazza For Green Swap
Topic Started: Nov 10 2004, 01:51 AM (328 Views)
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Mets Said To Consider Piazza For Green

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On the opening day of his first general managers meeting as the man in charge of the Mets, Omar Minaya moved in a direction the Mets have long been avoiding.

A baseball executive at the meeting said Minaya met with Los Angeles Dodgers General Manager Paul DePodesta on Tuesday at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel and had preliminary conversations about a trade that would send Mike Piazza to the Dodgers for Shawn Green.

Minaya, aiming for a splashy entrance to the New York sports scene, has now stuck a toe in deep water. Piazza has played seven seasons for the Mets, is the career home run leader among catchers and is one of the most recognizable players in franchise history.

The Mets have stressed that they want Piazza to finish his career with them and go into the Hall of Fame as a Met. Minaya insisted Monday that he was not shopping Piazza, but he did say that he would listen to offers for anyone. Minaya said Tuesday that he talked to four teams, and although he would not reveal the nature of those discussions, he did acknowledge that one of those teams was the Dodgers.

"I'm just setting the groundwork," he said. "I'm getting an idea of what clubs have interest in your players. There is interest, but I want to explore how much."


oh boy!!! :serious:
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if the mets can somehow get another prospect/player out of LA, I'd do it in a second.

if it's just Piazza for Green, I still might do it.
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i wouldn't do it but you guys all know why, i still love piazza!!!
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Nov 10 2004, 07:27 AM
i wouldn't do it but you guys all know why, i still love piazza!!!

:serious:

Sometimes you have to put feelings aside if it helps the team.
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Nov 10 2004, 07:30 AM
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Nov 10 2004, 07:27 AM
i wouldn't do it but you guys all know why, i still love piazza!!!

:serious:

Sometimes you have to put feelings aside if it helps the team.

yeah well i don't think it really does, green has been average at best the last 2 seasons, he's a very streaky hitter, more streaky then piazza, honestly i'd rather keep mike!!! :peace:
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So has Piazza, and at least Green can play D. Moving him for Green helps the team by getting a catcher that can actually throw someone out.
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NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! Green isn't an impact player. His contributions could only be here one season. If Piazza goes back to LA it would be like he's going home. That could mean Piazza in the HOF wearing a Dodgers cap. Keep Piazza in NY, dont deal him. I want him to unainmously be voted in as a Met!!!!! It would suck so much if Piazza ever went in as a Dodger, 10x worse then Gary Carter as an Expo!!! :no:
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Why is it so important that he goes to the HOF as a Met? I never got that.
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BTW, you're not gonna get an impact player for Mike Piazza.
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i think doing this trade gives us the best chance to win.

we get a lefty bat, upgraded defense in the outfield and at catcher and a younger player.

i know it would suck to see piazza leave, but it would help the mets
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Nov 10 2004, 09:04 AM
Why is it so important that he goes to the HOF as a Met? I never got that.

Its a very big deal. Its part of Mets history. One of the best and most clutch hitters the Mets ever had, for him not to go in as a Met would be a shame.
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Silliness. The fans will always remember him, and they're probably gonna retire his number. He'll be rememebered as a Met one way or the other.

They shouldn't hurt the team beacuse of the HOF.
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Nov 10 2004, 07:27 AM
i wouldn't do it but you guys all know why, i still love piazza!!!

Which is why its good you dont run the team. Green is younger, can play 1B and OF and puts up the same numbers as Piazza, I would do the deal in a second.







































Plus he is Jewish, so that doesnt hurt either :rock:
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When I first heard it, I didn't like it. But after thinking about it, it does make a lot of sense. It gives us alot of flexibility. It allows the opportunity to still look for an OF or a 1B, whichever is better because Green plays both pos.

Also Delgado is a good friend of Green. I know this was said last year when Delgado was rumored to go to LA, but this is still fact. Maybe this would make the Mets getting Delgado more probable. It's an interesting deal that I think makes some sense for both teams.
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It's not a deal that makes you extremely happy, but it's a deal that makes your team better simply by getting rid of Piazza's defensive liabilities and his injury concerns. Green's nothing special, but he's versatile and can give you .270-25-90, which would be more than Piazza will probably give this late in his career.
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Nov 10 2004, 09:04 AM
Why is it so important that he goes to the HOF as a Met? I never got that.

Of course you wouldn't feel the same about a player going to the HOF as we do........half of Cooperstown is filled with Yankees.

There's one Met in the Hall.
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Nov 10 2004, 12:22 PM
Silliness. The fans will always remember him, and they're probably gonna retire his number. He'll be rememebered as a Met one way or the other.

They shouldn't hurt the team beacuse of the HOF.

shut up amit, if piazza was to go back to LA it's possible he could go into the hall of fame as a dodger and for me and alot of met fans the hall of fame is very important! this isn't the yankees where they have 10 million players in the hall of fame, the mets if i'm correct only have seaver in the hall of fame as a met, when hall of fame players come around you have to keep them! green is not a MAJOR improvement over piazza, i honestly think the mets are better off keeping piazza, just look at both players stats from last season:

green: .266 28 86

piazza: .266 20 54

it's not a major difference between both players so f*ck green, i'd rather keep piazza!!! :peace:
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Yeah, 8 more HR and 32 RBI isn't a big differece at all. :serious:

I understand that he's a fan favorite and all, but you can't sacrifice a season just so you'll get a player to go into the HOF as a Met.
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Also, Green is a guy you can keep for about 4 more years, if he performs well and the Mets choose to re-sign him.

Piazza's here for one more year and he's gone.
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Nov 10 2004, 04:48 PM
Yeah, 8 more HR and 32 RBI isn't a big differece at all. :serious:

I understand that he's a fan favorite and all, but you can't sacrifice a season just so you'll get a player to go into the HOF as a Met.

amit let's not get silly, 8 homeruns and 32 rbi's isn't a big difference, 15 homeruns and 50 rbi's, now that's a difference and this isn't sacrificing a season, this is shawn green we are talking about not albert f*cking pujols!!!
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Nov 10 2004, 04:50 PM
Also, Green is a guy you can keep for about 4 more years, if he performs well and the Mets choose to re-sign him.

Piazza's here for one more year and he's gone.

what are you talking about, green has had 2 shitty seasons in a row, why would the mets want to sign a mediocre player like him for 4 more years, piazza will only be around for 1 more season so if anything the mets can move on a year from now!!!
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How is the 2004 season he had shitty? You'd suck Piazza's dick if he had that kind of season.
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Nov 10 2004, 04:55 PM
How is the 2004 season he had shitty? You'd suck Piazza's dick if he had that kind of season.

green batted .266 with 28 homeruns and 86 rbi's, that isn't a good season and piazza the last 2 seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions, if he is steady for 1 whole season and is healthy he'll have a good season maybe not an old piazza kind of season but a good one! honestly who's more dangerous of a hitter, green has holes in his swing and is probably the streakest (sp) player in the game, piazza might be aging and not at his best but he is still a dangerous hitter, pitchers fear him and don't laugh cause it's true!!!
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and piazza the last 2 seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions,

And green the last two seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions.

They're essentially the same player, except for the fact that Green plays better defense.
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Nov 10 2004, 05:03 PM
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and piazza the last 2 seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions,

And green the last two seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions.

They're essentially the same player, except for the fact that Green plays better defense.

like i said, who's the better hitter, we all know the answer and it isn't green!!! :peace:
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Nov 10 2004, 06:04 PM
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and piazza the last 2 seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions,

And green the last two seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions.

They're essentially the same player, except for the fact that Green plays better defense.

like i said, who's the better hitter, we all know the answer and it isn't green!!! :peace:

They're equal offensively. If anything, Green is a little better.
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and piazza the last 2 seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions,

And green the last two seasons has been hurt and has been switching positions.

They're essentially the same player, except for the fact that Green plays better defense.

like i said, who's the better hitter, we all know the answer and it isn't green!!! :peace:

They're essentially the same hitting wise, Green just provides better D and more flexability.

If this was anyone other than Piazza you'd do this deal.
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don't f*cking say they are the same hitter, don't even say that sh*t, we all know piazza is the better and more feared hitter, let's not get stupid now!!!
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Nov 10 2004, 05:11 PM
don't f*cking say they are the same hitter, don't even say that sh*t, we all know piazza is the better and more feared hitter, let's not get stupid now!!!

Maybe in 1999, but not anymore.
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Nov 10 2004, 05:12 PM
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don't f*cking say they are the same hitter, don't even say that sh*t, we all know piazza is the better and more feared hitter, let's not get stupid now!!!

Maybe in 1999, but not anymore.

piazza is still a better hitter and he'll prove it when he plays for the mets next season, he's going to have a bounce back year, i know it!!!
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