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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 16 2004, 04:30 PM (132 Views) | |
| Grandy4MVP | Aug 16 2004, 04:30 PM Post #1 |
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United STates basketball should send over the NBA champions to play for the gold. Do you think P.R would have beat the Detroit Pistons by 19 points?!?!? No f*cking way, it would have been the other way around. You win the title in the olympic year you are obligated to represent the United States as a team! PERIOD! |
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| TheOne | Aug 16 2004, 04:33 PM Post #2 |
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you got that idea from wfan, a caller mentioned that last night, the nba will never do something like that!!! |
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| Grandy4MVP | Aug 16 2004, 04:34 PM Post #3 |
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No, I don't get WFAN down here in NC. :peace: |
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| TheOne | Aug 16 2004, 04:42 PM Post #4 |
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lol i keep forgetting you live all the way down there, well some caller mentioned that on wfan last night, it's not a bad idea but i don't see it happening!!! |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 16 2004, 04:56 PM Post #5 |
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What would happen when the stars of the team said they didn't want to go? It would be the same problem as what happened this year when 10 of the first 11 players invited declined with Duncan being the only one to accept. |
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| Grandy4MVP | Aug 16 2004, 05:14 PM Post #6 |
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They would get ripped and to me they would be forced into going. I mean if Chauncy and Sheed decided they didn't want to go, not only would the public but their team would look down on them. It's an obvious problem and a stopping point of the idea, but to me it's the best solution to our international problem. |
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| Strider | Aug 16 2004, 08:13 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think it would be fair to the NBA Champions. The regular season is 82 games + training camp + pre season + you have to win 4 seven game series in the playoffs to win a title = whole lotta games. You'd have guys coming back looking like zombies. It sounds good at first - America's best "team" (defending NBA champs) vs. The World, but not so if you dig a little deeper. I just think that they made a mistake in putting the team together. Not just the fact that the average age over there is 23, but they don't have the right personel. Everyone over there is a SG/SF, SG/PG, or SF/PF tweener whose game is slashing and can't shoot. I said yesterday, you don't need LeBron (outside of marketting) if you've got Carmelo. You don't need Shawn Marion if you've got Lamar Odom. You don't need Marbury if you've got Iverson and Wade. There's no shooters or perimeter defenders on this team. Zone 'em to death and take away the crossovers and drives to the basket. On ESPN Radio, they said that the only guy on Team USA that shoots as high as 40% from beyond 15 feet is Tim Duncan. And I'm sure that's off the two bank shots he hits per game. Everyone else, their game is all inside. If we had guys like Michael Redd, Ray Allen, Allan Houston, Dirk (who should be playing for America. spitting on the hand that feeds him), even guys like David Wesley, Wesley Person, or Bruce Bowen, we would be able to get a little get back from downtown. |
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| I'mRickJamesBitch | Aug 16 2004, 09:18 PM Post #8 |
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Kobe, Shaq, KG, TMac....If these guys would put down their checks and play for the gold it would be a slaughter. |
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| amit | Aug 16 2004, 10:59 PM Post #9 |
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What about the foreign players on the team? The Pistons had 2, I think (Okur and Darko.) What about free agency, injuries, etc.? It can't happen. |
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| Grandy4MVP | Aug 16 2004, 11:02 PM Post #10 |
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Free Agents- You play one last game with your team in the Olympics. Foreign players- Coaches decision, he can go else where throughout the league and invite American players. Injured players- well, that's why you have 15 guys and 12 active spots. You have those three cats there in case any injuries happen. |
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| amit | Aug 16 2004, 11:09 PM Post #11 |
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I'm sure their current teams would be thrilled when a free agent they signed gets injured in practice.
So it wouldn't be the same team.
So you want Chucky Atkins to be your starting PG if Chauncey Billups gets the flu? |
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| Grandy4MVP | Aug 16 2004, 11:30 PM Post #12 |
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Okafor is there and the bobcats were against it, nothing they can do. Chucky Atkins was traded midseason, he wouldn't have been the backup point guard he went to Boston. :serious: Replacing foregin players, sure it changes up the team, but you have to do something. |
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| amit | Aug 16 2004, 11:58 PM Post #13 |
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It's different when it's the national team. You're talking about joining another NBA team. Very different, and I guarantee you other teams wouldn't like it. Whatever, Lindsey Hunter, you get the point. :serious: |
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| My name is ET | Aug 17 2004, 12:13 AM Post #14 |
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thats actually a pretty good idea, but it'll never happen. |
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| Strider | Aug 17 2004, 05:55 AM Post #15 |
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How the f*ck is it a good idea? Did you people read my post?
Its not fair to have people playing that many games. Besides, a little while after the Olympics, NBA training camp starts up again. Its almost like playing 2 seasons in a row. Its hard enough for guys who didn't even make the playoffs, let alone the players who went all the way. Either send the college guys again or start putting the roster together like a real team. Athletes and shooters and defenders and rebounders and guys with toughness. Not just 5 guys who have the same 42 inch vertical. |
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| BostonBoy17 | Aug 17 2004, 07:15 AM Post #16 |
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No it will never happen cause, say Dallas wins the NBA Title, half there team plays for other countrys Also Mentioned on ESPN |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 17 2004, 10:07 AM Post #17 |
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I agree with both of Strider's posts. It was a decent idea without thinking about the drawbacks, but it wouldn't work for Strider's reasons and also the ideas Amit brought up. |
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| MastaR316 | Aug 18 2004, 04:59 PM Post #18 |
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I don't get why we need to send college players. Team USA would lose a lot of games. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Aug 18 2004, 07:27 PM Post #19 |
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At least they would play like they cared. |
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| Strider | Aug 18 2004, 11:08 PM Post #20 |
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Who says these guys don't care? The ones in Greece are the ones who chose to sacrifice their off season to represent the country. Nobody wants to shoot 12% against Puerto Rico. They don't want the assist/turnover ratio to be 1:2. There's a difference between not caring and not being able to get it done. When you're facing a zone all game and you're a 25% shooter from outside of the paint, all the desire in the world isn't gonna make that ball go in the hoop. If Derek Jeter goes 0-4 in a big game, is it because he doesn't care and doesn't want to win? When Iverson goes all out, busting his ass, playing with injuries (has a broken thumb now) every game, you can't tell me he doesn't care about winning. Its just become trendy now to say, "They've got the talent, they just don't care. The Dream Team cared. That's why they won by 40 every game. These guys went to Greece because they heard it was a good vacation spot." That's bullsh*t. I'm sure they underestimated the opponent, but so did all of America, but no athlete wants to go out and look bad and lose, especially when so much is expected of them. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Aug 18 2004, 11:31 PM Post #21 |
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I'm just frustrated. :wall: |
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| amit | Aug 18 2004, 11:44 PM Post #22 |
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If they cared, Iverson, Bron Bron and Amare wouldn't be late for practice. If they cared, they would know how to play defense. If they cared, they wouldn't turn the ball over 20 times a game. They don't care, and it shows. |
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| Strider | Aug 19 2004, 12:21 AM Post #23 |
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You've never been late for anything in your life. Bernie was late for a World Series game in 2001. Are you gonna join Kocur's brigade and tell me, "He must have been working on his album from back then and blew off the Series." Put Allan Houston, Vince Carter, or Ray Allen (ya boy) on someone. Someone is a 13 ppg scorerer. Someone torches them for 25 points that game. Is it that Houston, Carter, and Ray don't care? They're just bad defenders. The only good perimeter defender we have on that squad is Jefferson. LeBron couldn't even guard them kids in those ESPN/YES televised high school games. He got burned all season. That's one of the problems we have with the group we sent over there. No defenders and no shooters and the average age is 23. Wasn't Chauncey lighting up Jason Kidd in the playoffs? Didn't Tony Parker light him up during the regular season? Tell me kid doesn't care. Kobe was getting outscored by Richard Hamilton when it counted the most. You tellin' me Kobe don't care? I'm sure Jordan got his ass beat on d' a few times too. As for the turnovers - chemistry actually factors in with basketball. Especially for a point guard. In Marbury's first game with the Knicks, he only scored 10 points and was looking to pass all night. He turned the ball over a bunch of times. Wasn't on the same page with his teammates. The highlight they always show is Iverson from the perimeter making a pass to Steph while he's cutting inside and the ball goes out of bounds. Is that Marbury wanted Ivo to throw one away? Or could it be that the two of them have never played together, outside of that one All Star game? The other U.S. teams didn't have much chemistry either, but there was enough talent and enough of the right talent to overcome that. Turnovers don't mean sh*t when you're blowing people out by 30. They loom large when the competition is almost on-par with you and the game is difficult. Lemme use an NFL comparison. During the '99 - '01 run the Rams had, every year, they would just break their own offensive records. Lighting it up and blowing teams out. Nobody ever cared that they lead the league in turnovers. Kurt Warner, in one of his MVP seasons lead the league in interceptions. The only thing that got hurt by a turnover was the ol' QB rating. Then look at a team like the '03 Giants. Tiki turned the ball over 6 times and Collins threw 12 interceptions. Even that doesn't add up to Warner's picks. But when the Giants turned the ball over, you knew it was game over. They didn't have that room for error like the Rams. Same with these games. I know I drifted a little near the end of this, but if you read the whole thing, you'll get my point. |
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