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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 14 2004, 09:39 PM (183 Views) | |
| Mantlemurcer | Aug 14 2004, 09:39 PM Post #1 |
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Another guy we just gave up away in the stupid Henson deal. The kid is still only 22 years old. Hit 2 HRs tonight. 264-21-56 in 265 ABs. |
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| TheOne | Aug 14 2004, 09:57 PM Post #2 |
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I'm still better than you!
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yeah pena is a goood hitter!!! |
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| Grandy4MVP | Aug 14 2004, 10:51 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah, Pena is turning out to be a hell of a ball player, he's still so young and only going to get better. |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 14 2004, 11:58 PM Post #4 |
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I was actually counting down the days in my head before someone posted something on Pena. I was talking about him with someone the other day. I think he's going to turn out to be the real deal, but I don't know if he would have lasted here. My reasoning behind that statement is that he had a clause in his contract saying he needed to be on the MLB roster by last year or he'd become a free agent. The Reds dealt with him sucking last year because they sucked as a team. I don't think George would have had the same patience. I wish he'd hold onto young players, but we know how he is. Pena wouldn't have even been given a legit shot this year with the Reds had Kearns and Griffey not missed so much time. He'd still be their 4th or 5th outfielder. It looks like he's going to start for years to come though. |
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| Big_Lou | Aug 15 2004, 03:30 AM Post #5 |
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Yeah, look @ Mike Lowell, he's been great. :dunno: -Who did we get for him? :think: -I can't remember, obviously it wasn't anyone of any worth. <_< |
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| Mantlemurcer | Aug 15 2004, 09:02 AM Post #6 |
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Yarnall :furious: |
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| Mantlemurcer | Aug 15 2004, 10:40 AM Post #7 |
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I've been following his numbers since he came up with the Reds last year. Didn't know about the clause in his contract. He probably wouldn't have gotten the chance here, but we basically gave him away. I was looking up Ricardo Aramboles this morning, whom we dealt for Wohlers. He had some terrific numbers in the low minors, but sat out last year with elbow and shoulder probs, and is struggling in 'A' ball this year. |
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| BaseballFan4 | Aug 15 2004, 10:51 AM Post #8 |
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I wish the Yankees didn't trade Pena to Cincy to get Henson back. :furious: He would be with the Yankees right now. Wouldn't he? |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 15 2004, 01:14 PM Post #9 |
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Maybe, but my point in the post above is that George probably wouldn't have the patience for him to develop and would have dealt him anyway by now.
Oh yeah, MM, I agree with you. I HATE giving prospects away. It's why even though Claussen has struggled and Boone hit the big HR in Game 7, I still don't like the deal. If a top prospect is going to be dealt, I want it to be for a real impact player. I guess the Yankees thought Henson would be an impact player though. At least it was a deal of prospects, not Pena for a washed up player.
That was one of the worst trades in YANKEES HISTORY. Lowell was coming off two huge years at Columbus and was ready to play in the majors, but Brosius was resigned after his big year and WS MVP, so they felt they had to deal Lowell. They should have done an NJ/Giambi type thing with him. They would have realized Lowell was the real deal, and either found a way to play him (DH for a year or 2), or trade him for an impact player. My dad has been pissed about that trade since the day it was made, not just since Lowell has become a top third baseman. My dad followed Lowell throughout the minors and was looking forward to him taking over, and frankly so was I since my dad was always talking about him to me. |
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| Giambi_MVP_25 | Aug 15 2004, 01:18 PM Post #10 |
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At least we got A-Rod to play 3rd a few years later. It takes some of the sting away from that horrible trade. |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 15 2004, 01:22 PM Post #11 |
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It does, but it doesn't make up for only getting Yarnall, Johnson, and Noel. Lowell was supposed to be really good though. He was also a big piece of what the Mets sent Florida for Piazza. |
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| BaseballFan4 | Aug 16 2004, 12:03 PM Post #12 |
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I agree with you, Matt23.
I might have to look up Lowell's numbers in Columbus because I don't remember them. Why George? Why? :furious: You gave up on Pena, Claussen, Lowell, N. Johnson, J. Rivera, etc. Who's next? :furious: |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 16 2004, 01:09 PM Post #13 |
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Post Lowell's Columbus numbers, if you find them. I remember they were 2 very nice seasons. NJ and Rivera going was ok in my book since it got them a young starter. I didn't want to trade NJ for a player at the end of his career, but Vazquez will be around for years, so I was ok with it. |
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| amit | Aug 16 2004, 01:23 PM Post #14 |
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1997: .315, 30 HR, 92 RBI. (Combined with Norwich and Columbus) 1998: .304, 26 HR, 99 RBI. (Columbus only) |
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| Mantlemurcer | Aug 16 2004, 01:51 PM Post #15 |
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We were in sticky situation with Lowell. We just had Brosius playing great. If that hadn't have happened, Lowell probably would have gotten the chance. Though remember that Lowell also went through cancer treatment and by the time he got back, the Yankees would have replaced him. That's what they do. :no1: |
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| BaseballFan4 | Aug 16 2004, 03:15 PM Post #16 |
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Amit, thanks for post Lowell's numbers in Columbus and Norwich.
You have a good point, Matt23. Maybe trading NJ and Rivera was ok because they acquired a young pitcher (Vazquez) who will pitch for this team for years. |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 16 2004, 03:18 PM Post #17 |
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Yeah, and I certainly didn't mind trading Rivera (Juan). He'll be nothing more than a decent 4th outfielder and that role was filled here. |
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| cmnyy | Aug 16 2004, 03:54 PM Post #18 |
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Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
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:crybaby: |
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| amit | Aug 16 2004, 03:57 PM Post #19 |
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How proud you were after that 2-HR game he had against the Royals.... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 17 2004, 03:49 PM Post #20 |
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I found some info on that clause (unlike YFF, who is still looking for confirmation of Giambi's clause to play 1B):
Entire article |
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Dude, you're so banned
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Wily Mo Pena was never going to be used here anyways, so there's no point in thinking about what would have been if we never traded him. It is more depressing when we traded away a great pitching prospect(Claussen) for a piece of crap half year rental that we didn't need(Boone). I don't care what Claussen does in his career, the deal was bad. Even if he never wins another major league game, we still could have gotten better value in a trade. Who knows. Maybe he would have sealed a RJ deal this year. |
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| Mattingly23 | Aug 17 2004, 04:02 PM Post #22 |
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100% agreed. |
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| Mantlemurcer | Aug 17 2004, 04:03 PM Post #23 |
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I didn't see him helping us either, but yes, he could have been dealt for something other than a QB. |
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