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That bunt call was pure genius
Topic Started: Aug 12 2004, 12:02 AM (140 Views)
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great call. Get Wright into scoring position for the offensive juggernaut known as Joe McEwing.
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yeah but do you want wilson to hit into a double play??? :peace:
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yeah with a sinker baller pitching, getting two chances with a runner in scoring position is the only hope. so i can't fault him for that.
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it doesn't make sense to give up an out when the next two batters are McEwing and a crappy pinch-hitter.

Wright has well above average speed, the best play would have been a hit and run.
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no it doesn't make sense letting shitty vance wilson bat in that spot, he's a shitty hitter, i'll take my chances with mcuseless!!!
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Aug 12 2004, 12:10 AM
no it doesn't make sense letting shitty vance wilson bat in that spot, he's a shitty hitter, i'll take my chances with mcuseless!!!

Vance Wilson is batting over 40 points higher than mcEwing and with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.
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no it doesn't make sense letting shitty vance wilson bat in that spot, he's a shitty hitter, i'll take my chances with mcuseless!!!

Vance Wilson is batting over 40 points higher than mcEwing and with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.

i don't give a sh*t, wilson is known for hitting into double plays, add that to the fact he was facing a sinker ball pitcher, no thanks, wilson cost the mets will all his blunders on the field and hitting, i don't want him up with the game on the line!!!
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no it doesn't make sense letting shitty vance wilson bat in that spot, he's a shitty hitter, i'll take my chances with mcuseless!!!

Vance Wilson is batting over 40 points higher than mcEwing and with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.

i don't give a sh*t, wilson is known for hitting into double plays, add that to the fact he was facing a sinker ball pitcher, no thanks, wilson cost the mets will all his blunders on the field and hitting, i don't want him up with the game on the line!!!

Wright has well above average speed. The correct call there would have been a hit and run, which at worst would have had the same result as the bunt.
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no it doesn't make sense letting shitty vance wilson bat in that spot, he's a shitty hitter, i'll take my chances with mcuseless!!!

Vance Wilson is batting over 40 points higher than mcEwing and with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.

i don't give a sh*t, wilson is known for hitting into double plays, add that to the fact he was facing a sinker ball pitcher, no thanks, wilson cost the mets will all his blunders on the field and hitting, i don't want him up with the game on the line!!!

Wright has well above average speed. The correct call there would have been a hit and run, which at worst would have had the same result as the bunt.

wright has average speed but ausmus has an above average arm, wright gets thrown out there that's the f*cking ball game, having vance bunt was the correct call, the mets have two chances to bring the runner in, i don't care who's batting next the bunt was the right move!!!
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Wright's speed is way above average. He stole a nice amount of bases in the minors.

And in a hit and run Ausmus would not have had the chance to throw the ball.
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Im goin with Timo here, Wilson is one of the best contact hitters on the team in terms of just putting the bat on the ball.

Why isnt Matsui on the DL? he should've pinch hit, and if he cant run then Phillips can. Matsui is the superior contact hitter, and even if you have to use the whole bench to do it, you tie the f*cking game.

Keith Hernandez did a nice job making both managers look like f*ckin idiots btw
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I also agree with timo. Vance is a better contact hitter and had a sac-fly earlier in the game. The problem was his bat was slow as an ant yesterday. He looks fatigued. Perhaps the main reason he can't be an everyday catcher is because he is not physically fit enough to play that position on a regular basis.
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well sorry all you guys are wrong and i'm right, howe (i can't believe i'm saying this) made the right decision, wilson was horrrible the whole game, he did nothing, your not going to have a double play king bat against a sinker ball pitcher, if wilson hits into a double play there the game is over!!!
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.
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Aug 12 2004, 12:55 PM
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

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exactly!!!

:peace:
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

The numbers show that he was one of the most consistant hitters in last night's lineup. And if he didn't get a hit the situation would have been Wright on second with one out, the same as if WIlson had bunted.
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

The numbers show that he was one of the most consistant hitters in last night's lineup. And if he didn't get a hit the situation would have been Wright on second with one out, the same as if WIlson had bunted.

yes but he's known for hitting into double plays, that combined with the fact that a sinker baller was pitching doesn't favor the mets or vance wilson, howe made the right decision for once!!!
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

Wilson is a terrible bunter. How many times has he failed to move the runner over this season? I'd say 5 or 6.
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

Wilson is a terrible bunter. How many times has he failed to move the runner over this season? I'd say 5 or 6.

yeah well he got the bunt down didn't he, there's nothing to complain about!!!
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

Wilson is a terrible bunter. How many times has he failed to move the runner over this season? I'd say 5 or 6.

yeah well he got the bunt down didn't he, there's nothing to complain about!!!

It was an unwise decision and in the end it DID backfire because the two "juggernauts" Joe Mac and Phillips got out.
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with a .283 average had the second highest batting average of any player in the starting lineup.


Who in the lineup is hitting better than .283?

Wright has Matsui-type speed. He has average speed, but is a good baserunner. He had some good stolen base numbers in the minor leagues, but he's not an MLB base stealer.

nobody

exactly!!!

:peace:

Eric Valent had a higher batting avg by about 5 points.

I wasn't talking about having Wright steal, I was talking about doing a hit & run. There's a big difference.

i don't trust wilson's bat for sh*t, having him bunt was the right thing to do!!! :peace:

Wilson is a terrible bunter. How many times has he failed to move the runner over this season? I'd say 5 or 6.

yeah well he got the bunt down didn't he, there's nothing to complain about!!!

It was an unwise decision and in the end it DID backfire because the two "juggernauts" Joe Mac and Phillips got out.

no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!
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Aug 12 2004, 12:34 PM
no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:
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no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:

IF VANCE HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY THE GAME IS f*cking OVER, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSING YOU STUPID a-hole!!!
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no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:

IF VANCE HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY THE GAME IS f*cking OVER, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSING YOU STUPID a-hole!!!

By having him bunt, the game was over too you equally if not more stupid A-hole!
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no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:

IF VANCE HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY THE GAME IS f*cking OVER, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSING YOU STUPID a-hole!!!

By having him bunt, the game was over too you equally if not more stupid A-hole!

no it isn't, i don't care who's batting behind him, the mets still had 2 chances to tie the game!!!
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no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:

IF VANCE HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY THE GAME IS f*cking OVER, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSING YOU STUPID a-hole!!!

By having him bunt, the game was over too you equally if not more stupid A-hole!

no it isn't, i don't care who's batting behind him, the mets still had 2 chances to tie the game!!!

When you have 2 free outs, it's called two more golden opportunities to end the ball game!
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no it was the wise decision, every manager makes that decision, you always bunt the tying run over with no outs!!!

Not when you have 2 free outs behind the person bunting. 2 free outs + 1 sacrifice bunt = 3 outs = inning over. What am I missing? :dunno:

IF VANCE HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY THE GAME IS f*cking OVER, THAT'S WHAT YOUR MISSING YOU STUPID a-hole!!!

By having him bunt, the game was over too you equally if not more stupid A-hole!

no it isn't, i don't care who's batting behind him, the mets still had 2 chances to tie the game!!!

When you have 2 free outs, it's called two more golden opportunities to end the ball game!

you never know, mcuseless or phillips could have blooped one in for a hit!!!
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you never know, mcuseless or phillips could have blooped one in for a hit!!!

Then I'd see a cow jump over the moon and pigs flying near my window the next morning!
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