| Welcome to The Yankee Zone. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
- Pages:
- 1
- 2
| What do u guys expect to see from..... | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 4 2004, 02:44 PM (284 Views) | |
| SheffIsDaMan11 | Aug 4 2004, 02:44 PM Post #1 |
![]()
Orton: The New....
![]()
|
Esteban Loaiza tonight? My guess is 7 innings, 4 runs (3 earned) with flash and rivera throwing 2 scoreless innings Yanks win 6 to 4 :peace: |
![]() |
|
| Venom | Aug 4 2004, 02:45 PM Post #2 |
|
May the Force be with you
![]()
|
7IP 3ER is what I am hoping for! :thumbup: |
![]() |
|
| SheffIsDaMan11 | Aug 4 2004, 02:49 PM Post #3 |
![]()
Orton: The New....
![]()
|
:hump: :cheers: |
![]() |
|
| theMETSsuck | Aug 4 2004, 02:52 PM Post #4 |
![]() ![]()
|
anything past 6 innings w/o giving up more than 3 ER is fine by me. |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 03:06 PM Post #5 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
A quality start TMS. With the offense and pen that we have, all we need from the starters are quality starts. |
![]() |
|
|
|
Aug 4 2004, 03:06 PM Post #6 |
![]()
A.K.A. MickeyTheGreat7
![]()
|
That would be great...But what's with the unearned run..u don't believe in the yankee defense?? :smirk: |
![]() |
|
| Grandy4MVP | Aug 4 2004, 03:13 PM Post #7 |
![]()
|
I'd bust a nut for 7 innings and 3 ERs from one of our starters, I think he can do it! :thumbup: |
![]() |
|
| theMETSsuck | Aug 4 2004, 03:15 PM Post #8 |
![]() ![]()
|
isn't 6 IP & 3 ER basically just that? anything more is gravy like i said...but it would be great to see him pitch well against a potential future playoff lineup...a strong outing here will help alleviate our concerns about who we can rely on for the postseason. |
![]() |
|
|
|
Aug 4 2004, 03:16 PM Post #9 |
![]()
A.K.A. MickeyTheGreat7
![]()
|
Hey whatup VIN...still taking down them 6 packs like water? ;) |
![]() |
|
| Mattingly23 | Aug 4 2004, 03:17 PM Post #10 |
![]() ![]()
|
It's exactly that. Anything 6 innings pitched and 3 earned runs or better is a quality start. I think cmnyy was agreeing with you. |
![]() |
|
| Venom | Aug 4 2004, 03:19 PM Post #11 |
|
May the Force be with you
![]()
|
Welcome back! :woot: |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 03:30 PM Post #12 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
I was agreeing with him. Maybe you guys can help me with this. There is a stat called "Quality Start Percentage". Any of you guys see it anywhere? Its hard to find. I'm interested in player season and career %'s, as well overall team stats. |
![]() |
|
|
|
Aug 4 2004, 03:40 PM Post #13 |
![]()
A.K.A. MickeyTheGreat7
![]()
|
:agent: :D |
![]() |
|
| Mattingly23 | Aug 4 2004, 03:49 PM Post #14 |
![]() ![]()
|
I'll check a few of my favorite sites to see if I can find it anywhere. I don't remember seeing it offhand. I'll get back to you. |
![]() |
|
| Mantlemurcer | Aug 4 2004, 03:49 PM Post #15 |
![]()
Home of Champions
![]()
|
I'd like to know who determined that 3 runs in 6 IP (a 4.50 ERA) is a quality start. |
![]() |
|
| theMETSsuck | Aug 4 2004, 03:53 PM Post #16 |
![]() ![]()
|
maybe the same guy who determined that a closer coming into a game in the 9th inning w/a 3 run lead qualifies for a save? :dunno: |
![]() |
|
| Mattingly23 | Aug 4 2004, 03:55 PM Post #17 |
![]() ![]()
|
OK, I found a site. It mostly shows matchups though, so the page I am directing you to will show Harden and Loaiza's quality start percentage (QS%). Maybe play around with the site to find more pitchers. It seems to only show this year's stats, not career stats like you were looking for. Stats for tonight's starters, including QS% |
![]() |
|
| Mattingly23 | Aug 4 2004, 04:00 PM Post #18 |
![]() ![]()
|
I decided to look into that and check out this interesting information that I found. Apparently the definition is not as cut and dry as we thought:
They mention MM's point of the unimpressive 4.50 ERA, but then explain why people use the 6 and 3 rule -- it is basically the midpoint of the two philosophies of what determines a quality start-- 6 innings with 2 runs runs allowed or 7 or more innings with 3 runs allowed. Stat Glossary |
![]() |
|
| Mantlemurcer | Aug 4 2004, 04:01 PM Post #19 |
![]()
Home of Champions
![]()
|
I think some pitcher's agent probably came up with this hold thing. Just like Holds. |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 04:04 PM Post #20 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
Awesome. Thanks Matt23. This is a step in the right direction. I'd like to see this stat used more often. It's a very informative stat, especially for a team like we have. If the starter can just keep us in the game, our offense will win tons of games. |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 04:06 PM Post #21 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
Last year I was looking for a percentage of inherited runners allowed to score stat. (I still think we need that.) This year, its quality starts for me. :laugh: |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 04:08 PM Post #22 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
By the way, ESPN does track quality starts, just not the %. ESPN Stats |
![]() |
|
| Mattingly23 | Aug 4 2004, 04:11 PM Post #23 |
![]() ![]()
|
I have trouble getting on ESPN.com from work, so I didn't even look there. That should make it easy for you to calculate the percentage then, cmnyy. |
![]() |
|
| Mantlemurcer | Aug 4 2004, 04:13 PM Post #24 |
![]()
Home of Champions
![]()
|
I thought it was quality trips to the bathroom. :think: |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 04:14 PM Post #25 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
The Quality Start is a Useful Statistic Along those same lines: (Old article (1992), but a good read.)
|
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 4 2004, 04:23 PM Post #26 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
:laugh: |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 5 2004, 12:13 PM Post #27 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
ESPN does list Quality Start Percentage: QS% |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 5 2004, 12:44 PM Post #28 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
A couple of the guys near the top of this list are free agents at the end of the year: Brad Radke, Russ Ortiz, Matt Clement, Carl Pavano and Odalis Perez to name a few. (I'm not including Pedro. Fu<k him.) These are all guys we should be looking at. |
![]() |
|
| amit | Aug 5 2004, 12:55 PM Post #29 |
![]()
Lizard King
![]()
|
Clement and Ortiz are trash. I want to get Livan Hernandez and sign Odalis Perez. |
![]() |
|
| cmnyy | Aug 5 2004, 01:04 PM Post #30 |
![]()
Group: Self-Appointed Administrators
![]()
|
Every one of those guys would be an improvement Amit. But there really aren't any aces in the bunch. I'd try to get two of them, and not spend anything over a million on any position players (highly unlikely though). |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · New York Yankees · Next Topic » |
- Pages:
- 1
- 2
| Track Topic · E-mail Topic |
4:44 AM Jul 11
|
| Member Legend |
|
Administrator | Moderator | Member | Validating | |
| Please Visit Our Affiliates |


edge created by tiptopolive of ifsz



















4:44 AM Jul 11

