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Marcus Camby...
Topic Started: May 2 2004, 08:52 PM (248 Views)
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Any shot? I loved that guy when he was a Knick, and I've heard his name brought up in trade rumors during various parts of the season. Is there anyway the Knicks can acquire him if he doesn't remain in Denver? Or do they simply not have the money available?
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can the knicks get him for the middle level exception??? :confused:
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May 2 2004, 10:22 PM
can the knicks get him for the middle level exception??? :confused:

not a chance.
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You can't get him for the MLE. I think he only missed 10 games last season. We all know that if he came back to the Knicks, he'd play 34 games next year.
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I don't buy into that one bit. He played in the West, healthy, for the whole season, as one of the main guys for the Nuggets. He grew some really tough skin in the West, and with a whole off season of conditioning, after an entire healthy season, then he could be in even better shape.

B/c for once, Marcus wont be spending half of the off season in a cast, or rehabilitating. He is going to be hitting the weights, working on more cardio, and working on that jumper, which is much improved, and maybe adding a post move.

BRING BACK CAMBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You can't get him for the MLE. I think he only missed 10 games last season. We all know that if he came back to the Knicks, he'd play 34 games next year.

good point!!! :no1:
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He is not worth more than the MLE. He is not going to become a better player than he is now, and I believe he is 28 going to 29.
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I loved Camby, he used to be my favorite Knick and I would love to see him back in Orange and Blue... I think people forget how good of a player he is...I mean he almost led UMASS to a National Title single handedly
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He is not worth more than the MLE. He is not going to become a better player than he is now, and I believe he is 28 going to 29.


He's 30 going on 31.

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I think people forget how good of a player he is...I mean he almost led UMASS to a National Title single handedly


This ain't the NCAA. We all know what Camby is. A physically talented player who has been injury prone his entire career. His best seasons have been 10 ppg/11 rpg.
He's not that good. And although he managed to stay relatively healthy last season, I don't have confidence in him to play 75 games a year (which he still hasn't).
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Well, nobody thought he would go past 64 games either, before this season, but he did, so you never know. And it's more like, 12 and 12 were his best seasons. Marcus Camby may not have the best offensive skill set, but the impact he has on the game is unreal. In fact, I think he is one of the top 10- 15 impact players in the whole league. This is one of those cases where stats mean nothing. If you wanna say that Camby isn't that good, then you have to say that Ben Wallace isn't that good either, b/c believe it or not, Camby is doing just as good, in the tougher West. Maybe Ben gets an extra 2 rebounds, but that's it.
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Wow, you're underrating Camby a lot.

Camby's offense is much improved this year. He's now become deadly on the offensive end. He can hit a 20 foot jumper. He's one of the top 10 rebounders in the league. He's one of the top 10 shotblockers in the league. He offers some of the best help defense in the league. He can guard a 2, a 3, a 4 or a 5.

The Knicks would be very lucky to reacquire the Cambyman. They never should've traded him for McKnee in the first place.

And btw, as far as Camby's best seasons:

He put 14.8 ppg in 30 mpg, in 63 G his rookie season. Since then he's been on teams which had a lot of other scorers and he wasn't as big a piece of the offense.

He put up 11.5 rpg in 63 games in '00 - '01 for the Knicks. That would've been among the top 5 in the league that year, except he missed the minutes played by a very small amount (the 5 game suspension that year actually kept him for being eligible for any of these types of categories).

For the '97-'98 Raptors team, Camby put up an astonishing 3.7 blocks per game. For the record, our leading shotblockers were Mutombo (who sat on the bench more than he played once Lenny arrived) at 1.89 and Kurt Thomas at 1.00. Camby would be a HUGE help in this department.

If the Knicks signed Camby, you could expect him to put up 11 ppg, 10 rpg, 2 bpg as minimums. His health is always an issue, but lots of players get injured every year, yet few endure as much criticism as Camby. If Camby had stayed healthy throughout his career, we'd be talking about him *ahead* of Rasheed Wallace. That's how good he is.

I've said my piece.
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This is one of those cases where stats mean nothing. If you wanna say that Camby isn't that good, then you have to say that Ben Wallace isn't that good either, b/c believe it or not, Camby is doing just as good, in the tougher West. Maybe Ben gets an extra 2 rebounds, but that's it.


He's nowhere near the physical post defender than Ben Wallace is, doesn't rebound as well (a +2 average is considerable), isn't the great shot blocking threat, and his health has been questionable in every season he's played. That 10-15 impact players in the league is ludicrous. Come on. Carmelo Anthony isn't even a top 10-15 impact player and it was his team, not Camby's.

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Camby's offense is much improved this year. He's now become deadly on the offensive end.


Didn't he average like 8 points per game this season?

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The Knicks would be very lucky to reacquire the Cambyman. They never should've traded him for McKnee in the first place.


They were both injury risks, but McDyess had more upside. Marcus Camby has never been a 22 ppg/12 rpg player. McDyess had accomplished more and when healthy, was the better player. With Camby constantly on IR, the Knicks were looking to get rid of him. Don't overlook 4 years just because he's played the majority of one season (missed 10 games). There's no use to having a player who hits his stride, has a stretch of 5 games where he's averaging 18 points/16 rebounds, then gets injured. That was Camby with the Knicks. You can't blame them for trading him.

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If the Knicks signed Camby, you could expect him to put up 11 ppg, 10 rpg, 2 bpg as minimums. His health is always an issue, but lots of players get injured every year, yet few endure as much criticism as Camby. If Camby had stayed healthy throughout his career, we'd be talking about him *ahead* of Rasheed Wallace. That's how good he is.


*IF* <-- Keep that in mind. There is no "if" with Rasheed Wallace. He's actually been healthy for most of his career and he's accomplished more than Camby. He's been an All-Star, he's been dominant, and for about 3 seasons, was considered one of the top 4 power forwards in the game.

If there was a guarantee that Camby would play 75 games next season, then I'd glady take him. I don't know if anyone remembers the rant I went on about the Knicks' off season needs on Metro Sports, but I had said that they need a good defender and someone who is athletic. Camby's 10 ppg/11 rpg and athletism would be great for the Knicks. However, the last thing I would want is for this team to take a chance and wind up getting screwed. Its like a kid who has consistently gotten 60's on tests getting a 90 on one. You can't have absolute confidence in him to keep it up. Its the same with Camby. What would you say if 36 games into the season, Camby's out for the remainder with a hyper extended knee and torn MCL?


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