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Religion, Science... Beliefs ok?!; They exist, get over it.
Topic Started: Mar 13 2009, 10:16 PM (1,886 Views)
CloudVaris
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Fuck that, dude.
God doesn't have our lives planned out. Everything we do is not chosen by God. That just doesn't even make sense.
If that was true, there would be no such thing as right or wrong, and sin wouldn't even exist, since "God made us do it."
I don't buy that.

Sorry, but "perfect beings" aren't tyrants.

Edit: lol, thinking about this after I posted it, all I could think of is Arthas saying "Your will... is not your own.." when you talk to him as a Deathknight in WoW.
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"i plan this one to kill this one..."
"oh and this one will rape this one"
"he's gunna start the next huge war..."
"hmmm.... oh this guy is TOTALLY creating a poison to wipe of millions of people"


yeah, god plans
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Oh, and this baby is going to die five minutes after birth due to a defective lung.

And I'm going to have this guy convert someone away from Christianity 'cuz he smells funny.
Smelly Christians. Can't have that.
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Funny, he does plan everything. He lets Satan do all the bad things. Tru Fax. Also, with the whole quote from WoW, thats actually right. Your will isn't your own. Thats just how you perceive it. Bad things happen because of Satan. God lets him do those things. Not sure why, but we deserve worse.
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I still call bullshit.
God lets Satan influence people enough to pull them away from God and heaven and into hell?

What makes you even think this?
I certainly hope the bible doesn't say that, because it would be just another thing to add to the good 'ol biblical contradictions list.
Bible also talks about testing people's faith. But according to you God is the one choosing whether or not they have faith.
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lol religion being contradictory to itself

have faith becuase... we tell you to!
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If god existed and had planned things out I would have been convinced by those hours in church listing to some self-important pillock reading a glorified story book and trying to explain meaning in it

and what i meant earlier was that people say "the bible is right because it says its right" that circular logic and bullshit that religion perpetuates

also if god really sends people to hell for not believing in him then he's just an arrogant self-important, conceited shit head
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No, I believe people go to hell when they actually hate God. (Edit: Thus falling completely into Satan's grasp. Although apparently that's because God lets them? <_<)
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And apparently Jesus, although I don't know why Christianity focuses on Jesus so much. They almost focus on him more than they do on God.

Syntax, that's called dogma, and that circular logic just shows how dogmatic they can be.
Please note I'm not saying all Christians are that way, just... a lot of them.
And I'm not pointing fingers at anyone here. I'm actually fairly impressed by how little dogma I've seen in this thread.

(Dogma: Blindly believing whatever they are told and totally ignoring every opposing argument that comes their way by saying "It is because a few old writers said that big guns said so.")
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Syntax Man,Mar 15 2009
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If god existed and had planned things out I would have been convinced by those hours in church listing to some self-important pillock reading a glorified story book and trying to explain meaning in it

and what i meant earlier was that people say "the bible is right because it says its right" that circular logic and bullshit that religion perpetuates

also if god really sends people to hell for not believing in him then he's just an arrogant self-important, conceited shit head

agreed so hard
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Jesus and God are the same person. I probably shouldn't have brought up the whole, "God controls everything" because nobody understands it. Not even I.

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God lets Satan influence people enough to pull them away from God and heaven and into hell?
Yes. He does. Because you have a choice. He knows what you will do, but you still have a choice, and he doesn't change the future.

Also, referring to the whole, how do we know God is a he thing, it's because He created Adam in His own image, and Adam was a man. Thats how we know.

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have faith becuase... we tell you to!
Thats not exactly right. We have faith because we have faith (if that makes any sense <_< ) We believe because we read the Bible, and we decided that it was true, because there are no lies in the Bible. Nothing has been proven that it's not based on fact.

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If god existed and had planned things out I would have been convinced by those hours in church listing to some self-important pillock reading a glorified story book and trying to explain meaning in it
Nope. Because you didn't want to. You didn't have faith. You have a choice, God just knows the outcome.

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No, I believe people go to hell when they actually hate God.
Nope. You go to Hell (capitalized because it is a place) if you don't believe that Jesus died on a cross, killed by men, for your sins, and that he is your Saviour. Jesus was betrayed for 20 Silver Pieces by one of the desciples that followed him. He knew it would happen, and he didn't want it to. But God said it was the only way, and Jesus died, and rose again the third day. All from the Bible.

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agreed so hard
Agreeing with people makes you hard!?!?!

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also if God really sends people to Hell for not believing in Him then He's just an arrogant self-important, conceited crap head
Not true. God does not send people to Hell. We send ourselves, by not believing in him. We're the arrogant self-important, conceited crap heads. Not God.

Well, this is the end of this post. Feel free to make an argument, I'll just answer it with Jesus. :D

Edit: Glad you guys are asking so many questions. It makes me happeh. XD
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I'm going to anally molest you if you make any more posts on this forum. ~ Tim's bible, Genesis 1:1

If you post, you'll anally molest yourself, since it's your choice. I'm not responsible for it.
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Tim, that makes no sense, and it has no point. At all. WTF mate? Actually you would anally molest me, not myself. Dummy. Read your own writing.
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look someone who asks you to believe a book that has been passed down through 2 millenniums of people who used it to manipulate droves of people seemingly for shits n' giggles isn't what i call endearing ones self to people. If god were to appear before me in the flesh and tell me he were real then I'd believe but until that happens I'm not believing a book because some self important idiots and the book itself tell me to, faith makes no sense
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syntax speaks the words i think

thank you syntax
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