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| Religion, Science... Beliefs ok?!; They exist, get over it. | |
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| CloudVaris | Mar 17 2009, 09:49 AM Post #166 |
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lol. That sounds freaking awesome. I love anything where conservatives basically get bitch-slapped and told "YOU'RE WRONG" and they can't argue back. Although many of them didn't have a real argument in the first place. I just enjoy it when they can't even make up a fake argument. |
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| MrGuest | Mar 17 2009, 11:06 AM Post #167 |
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I am a conservative, thank you. >_> Scored a 58 on my political orientation test. And I personally am not afraid to say idk, because, well it's stupid trying to make people think you know everything. |
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| Under The Ashes | Mar 17 2009, 12:07 PM Post #168 |
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| Infinity's End | Mar 17 2009, 01:42 PM Post #169 |
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Then obviously I'm not poking at you. :/ |
![]() Birds fall from the window ledge above mine. Then they flap their wings at the last second. I can see their dead weight just dropping like stones or small loaves of bread past my window all the time. But unless I get up, walk across the room and peer down below, I don't see their last second curves toward a horizontal flight. Now due to a construct in my mind that makes their falling and their flight symbolic of my entire existence, it becomes important for me to get up and see their last second curves toward flight. It's almost as if my life will fall unless I see their ascent. | |
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| Pomegranate | Mar 17 2009, 10:13 PM Post #170 |
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It was mentioned earlier in this topic that some people believe there is no god when he allows such bad things to happen. Well, there's a simple explanation for this: free will. You may argue that something like cancer is not caused by free will, but in fact, we are still suffering from Adam and Eve's choices in the garden (eating the fruit) which started death. God gave humans free will because he wanted us to choose on our own accord who to follow, him or satan, and not just be robots following his every order. |
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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 17 2009, 10:16 PM Post #171 |
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just got back from the hospital after going at 2am 14 hours there to find out there was basically nothing wrong with me (but they gave me morphine) |
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| RetroX | Mar 19 2009, 10:12 PM Post #172 |
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That's right, and besides - humans have existed longer than this. Humans have existed from about ~2.2 MYA, and the earth was created ~4.6 BYA. Although we don't care about the first 4B years, because nothing really happened back then. The earth was mostly a giant blob of magma, water, rock, and single-celled organisms. Damn, I hate earth science. |
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| Timmeh | Mar 19 2009, 11:06 PM Post #173 |
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Pomegranate, your argument makes no sense. The fact that we can't escape our ancestors' decisions is the polar opposite of free will. |
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| RetroX | Mar 20 2009, 12:54 AM Post #174 |
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And to add on to this, the only reason I don't believe in God is because there is not enough legit proof for me to say that he exists. If somehow something happened that would prove to me that he exists, then I won't deny it, but simply stating that "oh, God exists, and even though we can't prove it, you should accept the fact since he might do something bad to you" isn't good enough for me. And also, if God made bad things happen to people who don't believe in him, then why doesn't anything bad happen to followers of other religions (not talking about between the three monotheistic religions, but with other polytheistic and atheistic religions). And FYI, Buddhism is an atheistic religion - it talks about spirits within oneself, not of a single god that rules over all, so atheism doesn't necessarily mean anti-religious. Of course, I personally prefer to be a secularist. |
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| CloudVaris | Mar 20 2009, 01:28 AM Post #175 |
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Atheists aren't all non-religious, but they all don't believe in any god, so there's absolutely no chance that you are worshiping the Christian God even by mistake. That's my theory on why a lot of Christians look down on atheists and leave other religions alone =D (Once again, I'm not an atheist, it just bugs me when people can't accept others whom hey would normally get along fine with just because they're an atheist.) |
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| MrGuest | Mar 20 2009, 01:46 AM Post #176 |
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And luckily I'm not like that, nor are any of the people I know. Just like I'm getting along fine with yall.
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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 20 2009, 01:56 AM Post #177 |
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| Infinity's End | Mar 20 2009, 01:58 AM Post #178 |
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Ugh... Ok, there's something bothering me in the New Testament. 1 Timothy 2:11-15 Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively.I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly. For God made Adam first, then Eve. And it was the woman, not Adam, that was decieved by Satan, and sin was the result. But women will be saved through childbearing, and by continuing to live in faith, love, holiness, and modesty. What the FUCK?! THIS is why I reduce it to the red text, and even with the red text I simplify it to the core basics. I would almost call this blasphemy, but earlier in the passage Timothy declared he was chosen to preach to the gentiles. WHAT THE HELL MAN? I'm thinking and hoping this is one of those heavily abridged pieces that The Church (probably in the Dark Ages or just after Rome fell) decided they were going to take advantage of the people's inability to read and teach themselves. So they shoved this in there to lower woman's class status, or regulate it. |
![]() Birds fall from the window ledge above mine. Then they flap their wings at the last second. I can see their dead weight just dropping like stones or small loaves of bread past my window all the time. But unless I get up, walk across the room and peer down below, I don't see their last second curves toward a horizontal flight. Now due to a construct in my mind that makes their falling and their flight symbolic of my entire existence, it becomes important for me to get up and see their last second curves toward flight. It's almost as if my life will fall unless I see their ascent. | |
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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 20 2009, 01:59 AM Post #179 |
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oh man, you have no idea how many friends ive lost because of religion they brought it up, told them my thoughts they got mad at me, swore a few times, then left forever *tear* most of the friends i have left are all atheists like, more then 2/3 |
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| Timmeh | Mar 20 2009, 02:06 AM Post #180 |
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I don't get why Christians try desperately to tell themselves that the sick shit in the bible is mistranslated, or made up by Catholics, or other weird shit. Is it really that difficult to say "The bible is a piece of shit, but I'm going to read it and see if I can derive the good from it." It shouldn't hurt you the least bit to just accept some parts of the bible as bad and best ignored, IE. It doesn't matter whether Jesus himself agreed with them. You don't need to idolize Jesus to respect his groovy philosophy shindig. |
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