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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 15 2009, 02:38 AM Post #121 |
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| Liksmaskaren | Mar 15 2009, 04:21 AM Post #122 |
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That's wrong. Every new generation is getting smarter. Nothing will ever stop evolving until it is perfect. Like sharks and crocodiles. And we are most certainly not perfect. I am pretty perfect, but that is another topic. A really interesting and educational topic. |
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| Syntax Man | Mar 15 2009, 04:56 AM Post #123 |
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we never said that were perfect, we just said that medicine has stopped natural selection stopping evolution and expanding intelligence is a result of research, not evolution |
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| Pomegranate | Mar 15 2009, 05:18 AM Post #124 |
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so liks, in the dark ages when people became less educated by the previous romans that meant that we were evolving backwards? |
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| Liksmaskaren | Mar 15 2009, 05:21 AM Post #125 |
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So... if dogs or worms becomes smarter it's because of research and not evolution? I really don't get what you are saying here. I read in the swedish popular sciece magazine 'Illustrerad Vetenskap' that we are getting smarter and that it is because we are still evolving. I could scan the article if I find the time. You will have to translate yourself or have Dee translate it for you because it it boring. |
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| s123i68 | Mar 15 2009, 05:36 AM Post #126 |
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Let me see if I can make it sound a little better. Humanity as a whole is getting smarter, yes. You are right, Liks. However, individuals are no smarter than they were several years ago. In other words, while Humanity may be getting smarter, there are those of us who aren't. This means that those individuals, which are still thriving and having children, are not evolving, correct? The rest of us may be evolving, but as long as those individuals don't, then Humanity as a whole fails to evolve. I think the main issue here is the definition of what causes/defines evolution. Many of us said that natural selection is an integral part of evolution, and since humanity cut that out of the equation, evolution fails to exist in humanity. I still stand by this statement. Liks, what you appear to be saying is that evolution is more than just the strong continuing to thrive while the weak die out. Am I correct in this assumption, or did I miss the point completely? I guess my point is that while dogs or worms can become smarter due to evolution, humanity stopped becoming smarter due to evolution, and began becoming smarter due to research and individuals taking steps to learn. Perhaps that's where the definition truly lies. It is true that evolution tends to be accompanied by an increase in intelligence, but is humanity still increasing in intelligence due to evolution, or is it because of something else? |
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| Liksmaskaren | Mar 15 2009, 05:52 AM Post #127 |
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You are correct. We are getting taller too. |
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| Timmeh | Mar 15 2009, 06:56 AM Post #128 |
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We invented modern medicine 150-odd years ago. We became invincible only a few decades ago. As far as I'm aware, there's no evidence to demonstrate physical changes since that time. |
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| Pomegranate | Mar 15 2009, 07:36 AM Post #129 |
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thats because of improving nutrition ![]() i'm 5'8"... i'm pretty short
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| Liksmaskaren | Mar 15 2009, 11:42 AM Post #130 |
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Well, if you call McDonalds and other fast food nutrious, then you would be right. We eat more crappy food today than ever. And the world is getting fatter than ever. No, we are getting taller because we always have been getting taller. Just look back at hundred years old skeletons and compare them to new ones. Then compare those hundred year old skeletons to two hundred years old ones... We don't have any use for our appendix anymore. But we still have it. I guess we will be born without it in a few hundred years or so. There are X-men frogs in nature, and if frogs can get clawlike bones that they can shoot out from the hands like Wolverine, then I feel like we have a bit to go before we will stop evolving. And natural selection exists in Africa. Either you kill or you die. Go there, kill some people, get killed, or get AIDS and die later. Anyhow, the savages there haven't evolved. They have just become savages. |
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| Timmeh | Mar 15 2009, 03:13 PM Post #131 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#...round_the_world Compare to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#...of_human_height We haven't gotten taller in the past 150 years as far as I can gather. Though the data there kind of sucks. |
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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 15 2009, 04:57 PM Post #132 |
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<_< im 5'5" shut your face JUST SHUT YOUR STUPID FACE |
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| Timmeh | Mar 15 2009, 05:22 PM Post #133 |
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6'3" motherfuckers. |
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| Candy Man Criminal | Mar 15 2009, 05:25 PM Post #134 |
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<_________< eat a dick |
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| Timmeh | Mar 15 2009, 05:25 PM Post #135 |
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My own 8" dick? GLADLY. |
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