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is jesus real?; wow... alot of pages! O_O
Topic Started: Aug 5 2006, 10:46 PM (3,080 Views)
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Troid92,Aug 6 2006
05:07 PM
War of the Worlds,Aug 6 2006
05:33 PM
I don't believe in evolution, now why don't we lock this since its going against some peoples beliefs, Ideas, Hope and etc. (like mine)

Then you don't have to post in it, or even look at it. I'm trying my best to keep it from turning into a flamewar while still trying to participate in discussion. If it gets hard enough to do so or any flames erupt, I'll lock it.

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And I'm really confused about your post, Mason. I mean, I understand the logic behind that, but I don't see how loving God has anything to do with this. I mean, I guess it could make him more perfect in a way to have a bunch of people worshipping and loving him... But if he's really perfect he wouldn't need to create anything in the first place, right?

Well, he can't get glory with no onlookers. I don't really have a clue why God would make us other than to give Him glory, and even then, the glory would only be seen by angels and ourselves.
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Hey Troid, if there's one part of the Bible that can help you, it's one of the first lines in Genesis, saying that when He created humanity "it was Good". Maybe he created us out of his own kindness? Maybe he was bored? What do you do with unlimited power? Sit around doing nothing? It's always better to create, not destroy. If God created us out of love, then isn't that one church statement that "God is love" true?

And Mason, that seems wrong. If God was perfect, he wouldn't want glory, as that would be selfish. You can't really think like a human would when you're discussing this kind of thing. I know that sounds pretty strange, but God isn't human, so his ideals are too far away to be understood by us.
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I was Quoting what Redhalberd said, thats all.

People trying to beleive in thing they don't want to beleive in, since why do we all have different opinions about things, We are not alike we have different Idea, beleifs, and are not the same We don't have the same teeth or DNA
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War of the Worlds,Aug 6 2006
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A meteor come and wipe us out?! really when the last Super Vocano erupted we survive that not unlese the meteor blow the planet up which I don't think that will happen anyway in 2030 how do Scientist know do they have a time machine of sometype its just a prediction like weather man predicting the weather sometimes there wrong and sometime there right.

I done some studing about the Super Vocanoes one is Yellowstone National park.

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Like troid said, if you don't know anything about it don't bother arguing(no offense). A meteor is detected using telescopes, if there is one nearby then we can catch it quickly, I truly don't know where you got the idea of a time machine, or that a meteor can, blow up the earth, because A meteor simply can't... there isin't one big enough, it would have to be as big as the moon to pretty much destroy the earth into a wasteland...

The meteor was detected on the year 2004, it was about the size of Ceres, Another meteor in the Kuiper Belt(AKA, astroid belt). The meteor is predicted to be around earth in the year 2025 - 2030 somewhere around there... we can use, 'fireworks'
to disrupt the Meteor when it is around the astroid belt, or simply Juipitar will protect us as before...

YES THAT IS CORRECT. 5 Meteors headed on a direct course for the earth...the meteors crashed onto Jupiter's gravity and were destroyed...
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I was Quoting what Redhalberd said, thats all.

People trying to beleive in thing they don't want to beleive in, since why do we all have different opinions about things We not alike we have different Idea, beleifs, and are not the same We don't have the same teeth or DNA


That is what this is for... to interexchange Ideas that we have and maybe use them and learn more....

Goldleader if, 'god is love' then why do I not have a heart? Why do I have a split side? Why is it that I think the human race is better of non-existant?? You tell me these things....
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War of the Worlds,Aug 6 2006
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I don't believe in evolution, now why don't we lock this since its going against some peoples beliefs, Ideas, Hope and etc. (like mine)

If i have a poodle and a dobermann and let them have some "fun"... there will be proof of evolution. The incredible Poodlemann!
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Hey Troid, if there's one part of the Bible that can help you, it's one of the first lines in Genesis, saying that when He created humanity "it was Good". Maybe he created us out of his own kindness? Maybe he was bored? What do you do with unlimited power? Sit around doing nothing? It's always better to create, not destroy. If God created us out of love, then isn't that one church statement that "God is love" true?

A perfect being doesn't get bored OR require entertainment. <_<
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im not getting into this one....too much reading......
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The more we learn the more, The metoers may just go by earth not even close to us and Juptiers a long way away from us so if the metoers hit Juptier then we want fell a thing but, The Global Warming is are downfall really since more Ice mealts than the costal city will be under water some time in the future or thing may happen like on the Movie The Day After Tommorow.

I know what this is for and Ideas saring of what people belive, I not going to be someone who try to brainwashes people into believe in what I believe in.
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Serus: It's reasonable to think of the human race as a group of shitheads who deserve to be obliterated because it's the truth. Maybe the "entity" is trying to save us from that? I'm guessing that you must "have faith" that the human race will better itself.

Troid: Goddamnit, you caught me off guard! That's exactly what I meant by not thinking like a human.. But still, it does not discount the fact that "it was good", whatever that means. Unless we find out some other reason in some other dimension, that's the best and only reason we have for being created by God: because at one point we were "Good".
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Serus,Aug 6 2006
10:33 PM
Thanks troid for clearing things up, it helps(<.<). Also here is another example of evolution, when you get Chicken Pox you will NEVER get it again, your body builds Anti-Biotics to fight it, sure the disease might get to your body, but thats as far as it goes.

again, if you don't know anything don't bother to argue, Hairy(omg that soudns wrong)stuff on science is based on facts and things you discover, you don't jsut make a theory and expect it to be true, thats why there is the, 'scientific method' 'darwinism' or his theories on Natural Selection isin't a pack of lies. It is based on what HE studied, and yet again if you don't know things don't argue...

He visited three island with different ecosystems and here he examinded three different birds and noticed that each one of their beaks were made specifically for that enviroment. Now that we got that cleared  up moving on.
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EDIT: wotw, unfortunatly this is good for us, it helps us build for the strong, thats why it is called an, 'argument' it's ment for Educational Arguments only if you can't do that there is no point in arguing...

also another reason this is thought is because people interpret other ppl's text differently, I am liking this argument, because I know no one here is fighting it's just all of us sharing our belifes...

oh... now im the one that doesnt know a thing about the thing they teach SINCE 6TH GRADE...

dude siriously... dont accuse ppl of "not knowing" when i perfectly well know how evolution and natural selection works. I hate replies like that because you said them because you were angry at me TELLING YOU THE TRUTH... think about it. i was having a really nice convo. about this, and i only just stated my beliefs, and what ive found out, and you lash out at me...

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Poof *5th page appears*

whoa this is going faster then the spartan vs hunter topic >.>
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Hairy, shut up, right now. You're acting like the spark which starts the wildfire. We don't need a conflict between you and Serus to ruin this whole topic.
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GOLD LEADER: ok but you didn't annswer my other questions...

Hairy: please oh please, who said I was angry, because you were telling me the truth? lol, like I said before, DO NOT interpret peoples text wrong because you dont know what their emotions were at that time..
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im sorry... i lost a bit of my composure right then...

it wont happen again.

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serus...
well, the topics a bit too longwinded to read the whole thing, so i only read select posts (yours was one of them) and i didnt see any questions in there >.>
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That's good, Hairy. And Serus, don't you continue. Prove that humanity can better itself and resolve conflicts not like human beings, but like what we hope to be.
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yes... pelase stop your gonna kill us here and now :P

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