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Royal Marines
Topic Started: Apr 30 2006, 11:01 PM (1,028 Views)
MetroidSlayer17 Jun 12 2006, 06:40 PM Post #76
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-058-,Jun 11 2006
11:55 PM
Do you have any idea what a Desert Eagle is?  It's one of the most powerful handguns in the world, and the reason is that it fires a freaking Magnum cartridge.

This is not the US military.  This is not any modern military.  This is my military.

There is a reason that handguns are designed and built: They have a use.  A sidearm is light and agile, it is easily reloaded, and it can generally loose bullets as quickly as the trigger can be tapped.  Sidearms aren't built to be primary weapons; a backup is required, for ammunition shortages or for maneuverability in a situation where a rifle isn't practical.  In the role of a secondary weapon, sidearms are perfect.

Oh, and up close with a .223 is the WORST possible range.  .223 munitions are much less effective at ranges below thirty meters because the bullet is still superheated and more prone to fracture or simply disolve, especially against targets with ballistic protection.

Yes, I know what a Desert Eagle is. One version of it fires the .50 Action Express, which is almost as powerful as the old .45-70 cartridge.

Also, the thing weighs about 70 ounces, that's four pounds and four ounces. Which is equal to about THREE Glock 17s. Heck, and M-4 Carbine weighs 5.56 pounds unloaded, and that is a shoulder arm.

Recoil from a handgun producing that kind of power is ridiculous, also. A .45 ACP with a +P load is bad enough.

Your point about the Desert Eagle has no real point, actually. The only viable use of a Desert Eagle is for hunting, where accuracy can only be achieved by taking rested shots.

Also, it doesn't matter how fast a handgun shoots if you can't hit with it. My father won 3 Pistol competitions in the Army, and even he can only take an accurate shot with a 9mm every three seconds or so. Watching a movie of a 9mm firing doesn't give you a real understanding... only firing one does.

About reloading... A shoulder arm has more capacity, less felt recoil, and actually IS easier to reload.

About .223s. Have you ever heard of the Geneva Conventions? Well, were held a long time ago, before WWI (can't remember exactly), and they outlawed the use of expanding bullets in War. What an expanding bullet does is really deform and create a larger hole in the target, and that is what a hot bullet can do under the right circumstances. You don't seem to understand that expansion, shattering, deforming, whatever you call it- it increases the potency of a round massively. At close ranges, a .223 will easily penetrate most body armor. It is a rule that the closer the target is to the gun's muzzle, then the more energy is transferred to the target.

Yeah, the gyrojet was an... interesting handgun.
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-058- Jun 12 2006, 10:35 PM Post #77
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 Bloody hell, drop the fucking argument.
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MetroidSlayer17 Jun 13 2006, 05:20 AM Post #78
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 I'd love to.

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