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072's Artstuffs; He doesn't JUST steal topic titles >_>
Topic Started: Apr 22 2006, 04:44 PM (4,980 Views)
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The stuff shaded in dark on the right is the SIDE of her face. <_<

Well, it's where it starts to curve anyway.
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Yeah, the posts not showing up... getting old fast.
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But it doesn't look like that, it looks like she's from the dinosaurs.
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You did not add an apostrophe to define that it is the person's dialogue, you moron! [|||], you all must be five years old judging by your poor use of grammer!
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I'll try to elaborate more on the head.

The head is just a little too horizontally skewed (referring to Paint's "skew" tool), and the face on it is skewed even more. The shading on the nose is just really weird and makes it seem like it sticks out just as far at the top (between the eyes) as it does the bottom. And the eyes make her seem stoned and really out of it.

The rest of the drawing is nice, though :P
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I think I see what you mean about the nose. But her face IS horizontally skewed there. It's the angle of her head.

No idea what you're seeing in the eyes.
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I meant skewing as in like the skew tool in Paint. Where the bottom shifts over and the top shifts the other way and the stuff between goes between. Not to be confused with rotating.

So let's say her head looking directly at us would be an egg shape. What I meant by skewed is that it looks like you took that 2-D egg shape and shifted the chin left and the top of the head right, instead of treating it like a 3-D object and rotating it to a certain angle in 3-D space then projecting it as a 2-D image. If that makes any sense.

..And, that description is REALLY exaggerated. The head doesn't look that bad now that I look at it again. The face is what makes everything look weird, methinks. Mostly because the nose isn't facing the same direction as the eyes and mouth, and it's too far to one side so that one of the eyes is looking, like, into the nose.

But seriously, I don't think the original fanart is much better with the face, and the rest of the fanart fanart is all fine.
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Troid: The fanart's face looks like MJ from the Spiderman movies when she's trying to think of something stupid to say.

M072: You could fix the face presto vista (no, I don't know any spanish at all >_> Or italian, or whatever language I just butchered) by pushing the chin in. Just move the chin to the right and very slightly upwards.
EDIT: And I'll deal with the eyes later <_<;
I know they're wrong, but I haven't figured out how.

EDIT2: While I'm here, I'd like to remark on the face of Jean in your sig (sorry if I misspelled her name, or made some other idiotic X-Men n00b mistake >_>), and ask why the hell you haven't fixed/changed it over the year or so you've had it <_<
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It's technically a phoenix-made Jean clone, you pathetic X-Men n00b.

I'll get around to it though.

EDIT: I'll probably just do something new. Or go back and remake something from this topic for a sig. (Any suggestions?)
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Well for now, I'll just redo this.

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Any particular gripes before I color it?
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Her face looks squished and off center and his eyes and nose look too far down.
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<DesperadoBlue> its not masturbation if he's your time clone from another dimension

<proth> also elf scrotums are notorious for being leathery and unimaginably strong
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I really don't think you're seeing the perspective here. Her forehead is pointing left and forward. (Our left) There is more showing than just the complete front of her face.

His head is pointing downward. <_<

EDIT: As shown:

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>_>

You fail at head shape.
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The way you have it, a side view would make your chin look like:
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Instead of this ^

EDIT: Also, youl'l notice that her face is curved. However, you've got a completely flat, neanderthalian sort of visage. Her right eye (our perspective) is closer to us, but her left is drawn the same size. Make that eye deeper, and sloped slightly away.
In addition: her hair is parted like 30 pixels away from where it should be. Wtf.

As for the guy, his mouth is all "grr" and his nose looks wtf. He's supposed to have a calm sort of expression. And while you're at it, make his forehead NOT bigger than the rest of his face. That's just creepy and sick.

Again, I am sexed by everything you do, except your faces. So no offense intended >_>
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Did I set too high of standards with that Wolverine/Hulk pic? I'm getting nothing but negative comments lately... kind of depressing. And I still feel like I have everything the way I like it. =/

EDIT: Well here's the colored version anyway. I'll change it in my sig.

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Would you rather we blindly praised work despite glaring flaws, thus never helping you improve?


Besides, it's already been established many, many times--you do awesome work overall on everything else, but your faces look like ass, yet you can't even seem to see why. Therefore, we have to try to explain it again each time. >_>

Oh, but I'd also like to point out that Jean or whatever's arm seems to be growing out of her neck there. That's either a really funky pose or screwy proportioning and placement there.
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<DesperadoBlue> its not masturbation if he's your time clone from another dimension

<proth> also elf scrotums are notorious for being leathery and unimaginably strong
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M072, I LOVE your work. I don't think you get that part. But it's not like you want to draw "pretty good" work your whole life, right? If you can't learn to draw faces, then your human drawing career is pointless. We're not trying to be mean about it, but you just NEED to be better at drawing faces. Sadly, you kick everyone's asses at everything else, so we can't demonstrate what needs to be better...
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