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Loyalty; come on guys we need to have this
Topic Started: Oct 19 2010, 05:18 PM (2,029 Views)
Matts
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Okay guys I really didn't think I needed to really spell this out for some of you guys, but since how production has sorta stopped due to the recent disappearance of just about all are voice actors except for Josheh, Toto, and Swiblet ( and I apologize if I left someone out, but these are the most active voice actors I know ) I need to discuss with you guys loyalty on this forum. On I'm sure most of you are smart enough to know what loyalty means, but just incase you don't it basically means to be deadicated to ones causes or organization or in this case IZFAS. When you apply for a job and you get hired your basically sighning a contract that says I plan to be active on this forum to help out the cause now it doesn't matter what job you apply for wether it be script writer, animator, concept artist, voice actor or anything else you basically are saying that I plan to keep on with the events going on with this forum such as important announcement like new story boards or recording of lines of new episodes or even scheduled meeting.


I have probably more hours logged on this forum then anyone else, I'm not even kidding when I say I've been on here for 4 and a half years just about every day for 1-5 hours a day usually that number has increased as I became an admin since I had even more resonsibilitys to do. I'm a writer and I haven't been called on for a LONG TIME yet I stay we must need to people willing to be patient because beleive it or not it does take a long time to do all of this stuff. I've seen so many people leave. Some people would be those average people who would enjoy the forum for maybe about a month and then leave. Some people would be amazing, they would get the job right away and then they would never come back again. I'm not even joking we have had people who just had a amazing animators application and then they would leave two days later. Now you don't have to come everyday when you have a job just be on frequently enough to keep up with what were doing. Now when I say frequently I mean like come AT LEAST once a week or if you can't send us a PM or a email explaining why. Some people, like Blaze ( I'm using you as a GOOD example here man. ) He was hired for sound effects and he stay on for a considerable amount of time before explaining why he was going on as much yet he can still be found here sometimes to keep up with whats happening.

All I'm trying to say guys is when you apply please make a an effort to keep up with what were doing and do your job. We have very few animators and voice actors as it is now and it doesn't help that were a small forum. I really hope this put some thigns in perspective for some people.
Edited by Matts, Oct 19 2010, 05:19 PM.
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Dee
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Well, I come on here all the time, but I don't contribute because I really don't have talent. Either way, I do notice a lot of come-and-go applicants, so thanks for putting this out.
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Matts
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@ Dee thanks it just well it irrates me that I have put some much into this forum I don't want people just think that if they give than application that they get their names on the credits cause you know I think that what most people are doing.
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Cosmographia
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I agree with a lot of things you said, GHP, but some things aren't exactly well-sent. I mean, some people you can't blame them, they NEED encouragement to keep working, but seeing a site come back, quiet down, come back, quiet down, can tend to be a bit discouraging. Like I said, I agree: if they expect this would happen, then they shouldn't have applied. But waving the finger like "shame on you" wouldn't really solve anything.

We should plan something to get people back to work, is all I'm saying.

Also, it doesn't matter how long they've been around, just as long as they contribute. Just thought I'd point that out.

I'd explain more, but I have to go.
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Dee
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@Cosmo: As long as that isn't a fake staging of a hacking, I'll be fine *shot*

Maybe make a contest? Nah, that won't work. Maybe another homework assignment? Or... maybe if we focused more on one part of the production, I.E. animating and stuff, and got all that done, the voice actors would be like "Hey, if we get our butts in gear, it'll be finished!"

I don't know, just some ideas.
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Matts
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@Cosmo Yeah I know I need to say thing better it's just that for the few years I have been on this site it like we get something good we roll with it and then we hit a slum because people have grown tired of waiting for us all The a few years later we get more people, but we hit a slum again history repeats itself you know? I'm saying is that if your applying treat it as you would treat it loosely as a job of sorts. I know that some people need encourage to work me myself included, but some people just need to have SOME faith, I'm not saying that if you don't have alot of time don't apply just keep up to date with what were doing if they prefer to do it by email because they have little time then fine, but don't just come on for a day apply, get accepted, and then dissappear off the face of the earth, thats what annoys me, but yeah I get what your trying to say.
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G4P
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Just realize guys, this is a process. We are making a tv show with a bunch of amateur artists and we are doing a fairly good job. Hopefully we can get busy. I don't really know what we are waiting for anymore, but still. Guys, it's a process.
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Zoh
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I really wish I could help, I speant at least 3 days in a depression be use I couldn't do anything helpful. But I reliezed even little things help. I'm soon going to try to see if I can do singing for the music section, if possible. I'm practicing my zim drawings, and I am currently wanting to voice act. I've been here for... I dunno 2, 3 months? I don't just stay here cuz i want a job here, I stay because you are the nicest and funniest people that I meant on the Internet. I can truly call you guys my friends. And I really truly mean that.

I really want to help so I can contribute, so I can not just BE here. I want to proudly say "I'm making a tv show." I want to more then a supporter.
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Zasheh
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Weve hit a slump But if we wait for A wee while We will crop one back But we have to wait

I would do A voice Acting but my voice is far to deep to do Anything
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Super Ellie
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I feel bad... I really wish I could help.
I'll be celebrating my 1 year anniversary at InvaderCon this year. I know pretty much all of you, and have gotten to know some of you really well!!!

I have been logging on as much as I can the past year, and I can't do anything. My drawing skills... terrible XD. My voice acting skills aren't good, and to be honest, I feel like I don't contribute to the site at all.

I mean, I don't do ANYTHING. I've been a member for at least 7 months, and then a "rolling chubby puppy" for a couple months. I don't really know where I stand. I'm not trying to start a pity party, but it seems like me, Ellie with no talent, is more loyal to the site then the people WITH talent.
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Dee
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@Ellie: I'm with you there. I joined just a day before you did, and I'm the same sort of person as you. No talent (whilst I am decent in the field of Digital Art, there's not much a need for Digital Art here), so I just sort of linger here, just being a random, very frequent forum-goer.
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Cosmographia
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It's understandable for the members who feel like they can't help. I'm sure with enough practice they can, but at least members who stick around like you bunch is good enough for us. We need the encouragement, after all. =3 So don't worry about that.

@GHP: Yeah, I know, and I completely agree with it. I don't have ANY break what's-so-ever and my animating skills are still in their messy-stage, but I want to help more than just storyboard, you know? Some boards are being worked on, and I THINK Nat is posting some of the edited ones tomorrow. So there's that.

But technically speaking, background artist CAN be put to work on the already-approved areas which is like 90% of the board reel. Right now, that's the crucial part, once the backgrounds are done, leading-animation (frame by framer) can sketch-animate what the characters do while the tweeners and animators who work with symbols can just add things over it.

So see, it's a long process, but it really isn't that hard.

So I think we need to poke good background artists to get to work ASAP (I can do a few simple ones, mind you, but I'd need the time).

I also thought about making like a promotional poster for dA, since we already sponsored in youtube, we missed DeviantArt. But that's just a thought, maybe some people can sign up for it too.
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Good background artist? *cough*Dax*cough*

WHO SAID THAT?! :O_O:
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The Formal Sheep
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Ellie: Being banned for a month or 2 counts?

If you check the voice acting Forum, I am up for anyone that IZFAS makes up.Because I have no talent.
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Super Ellie
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@Sheep: I was never banned, dude. Maybe for a day or two, because of YOUR multiple accounts, so don't go there.
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