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| IZFAS Recovery: Overview; The review of the meeting held 2/3/10 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 4 2010, 02:58 AM (2,615 Views) | |
| G4P | Sep 4 2010, 01:55 PM Post #16 |
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"Slash it Slash it!"
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Okay.. Yesterday during the meeting I made a fool out of myself. I hurried the entired SS game story, I should've taken my time, but I was VERY frustrated at everyone yesterday. I was ridiculously upset. I got 4 pms from different members, giving me ESSAYS on how wrong and horrible the games were. And I know I am not the only admin who got these pms. Yes, every admin was aware of the situation, everyone agreed to do it. We really felt like it was going to be a positive thing. In fact we were going to have it happen yearly with a different story every time. I was controlling ss I'd say... 90 percent of the time. So I came up with most of the riddles, hints, etc. In fact the anagram theworldissquare is from one of my favorite games of all time. So here is the entired story, nothing will be held back, this is a "Behind the scenes" look on how it all got started. I was talking with cosmo a little bit before the IZFAS meeting. So, I started talking about how the site had been so dull and almost dead recently. Well, I had been thinking of something. How loyal, and how thoughtful would our team be under the situation of a hacker? Well I decided to unite the admins and do some testing.... Okay so the main reason was to have fun, that was true. But at the same time, we are still in a testing phase, so we figured a week wouldn't interfere too much in the project. I decided what if we made them think that one of the admins went insane and tried to take over the site. So I basically came up with the entire concept. I told swiblet on MSN later that night after cosmo and I agreed on everything. Storyline, character, everything. We planned to take the site down for a while and put up that it'd been hacked. So I managed to talk swiblet into agreeing he seemed really excited. I pmed every admin this message "Okay, swiblet, cosmo and I have discussed this. and we want to play something called the ss games (Sadistic stranger games). I am going to make a new account that is for this use only. It is going to be called Sadistic Stranger (The account), we have to tell you this is just a game, we are having fun with the members. We are going to take away everyone's admin powers except for swiblet's untill this is over. But don't worry once it is over you'll have them back. Cosmo and I are even losing them. The reason? Fun of course. Here is how it will be played: We are going to make a new site backround and only have one thread open. It will be called I want to play a game. Open it, and only one topic will be there. It is titled ... No other topics are allowed to be open or made. We are going to fool our members. We are going to say that this "SS" has taken over the site and has possessed an admin into screwing with the site. And that the site will come back once they have solved the riddles and clues to find out which admin it is. This will take place after the group meeting scheduled for August, 21st of this year. I am sorry, but during the games it is absolutely crucial that you not be active or even come to the site as anything but a guest. This way people will buy it. We want to have this be spontaneous and fun. So we would like for you to not tell anyone the identity of SS. This is just for fun. We want to liven up the site and give it some fun. Here is how it will go. We the admins will be making this whole thing as we go along. We will talk on meebo and plan out every clue, hint, etc. I am going to be the admin he takes over. So thanks so much for your cooperation, we are all looking forward to doing this. This is going to be his introduction by the way. "Hello dearies, my name is ss. It seems your precious site is down... Hmm, what a shame. You don't know it yet, but I have already taken over the site, and your admins are powerless to even enter the site. If you really care for them and this website, I suggest you cooperate. Over the next week you shall be forced to answer riddles, and questions. When you solve enough that I think is deemed competent, I shall release an admin, he/she will be allowed back onto this site. Then when only two are left, you must guess which of your two admins is the one I possess, answer correctly and I will leave and surrender this site to you. But answer wrong... And you must start all over. Good luck dearies. I love you all." ~SS~ Also, don't tell anyone please xDDDDDDDD I will show you what everyone said in response. GHP: This sounds awesome I mean this will go down as the greatest punk in the history of IZFAS. Okay so don't come to the site on the August 22 as the other admins talk on meebo. It all sounds pretty epic so I'm with it. I can't wait to see the reactions of the members and don't worry I won't tell ^^. Nat: Hooboy sounds like fun 8D Great idea, guys. I just hope people cooperate. xD Josheh: This sounds awesome, one trouble some may know straight away that SS is Swib cause some older members would have seen 'Sadistic Stranger' as his motto before? So that's the only flaw, but the whole concept is just awesome, kinda reminds me of Saw. Heheh. Good luck with it ~ And maybe when each admin gets back on the site they act puzzled, confused, angry to add more of a thrill to it! :D Well you get the point. Everyone had the same reaction. So Josheh volunteered to make a new banner for me. That was really kind of him, so I took him up on his offer. He made the banner and a few days later it was done. He pmed me it. I instantly fell in love. So we as you know ended up using it. 2 weeks later on the first, I began telling everyone to get ready and to get an msn account so we admins could talk from above. We decided these things: 1. During the games only log in as an invisible during the games until you are "released" (The reason why we took away toto's mod abilities was because mods can see invisible members however she has been reinstated). this was actually a big flaw, a few times people forgot to do this, and that was a big flaw, but luckily we managed to stall for that. 2. We would all be sharing ss and not doing anything unless we all agreed. Though I felt bad because I seemed to hog him and act kind of dictatorish. 3. We would release 1 admin a day. Josheh and I made a fake e-mail that day and posted it the next day on the site and acted scared that a hacker was coming. This actually had a big clue in it. The email address was 101794@theteam.com Well, 10/17/94 is my birthday. So there is some useless trivia for you. Then came september 2nd. The day we put everything into action. We agreed to take the site down for a few hours while we plan and while we mask the site and prepare. Every admin was there and in the chatroom. We got everything ready. We were in a hurry, and it was rushed a lot. Swiblet started working on his voice for the audio, meanwhile josheh was taking down the topics. Nat made the avatar for SS and I was coming up with our first actions. Such as riddles, and our lines of action. We opened the site and had One topic and one thread open. A few things that shocked me is that josheh put his banner up in a public place. His photo bucket. So immediately we figured everyone would think it was swiblet. No everyone thought at first it was josheh. So we actually changed our plan. We wanted people to think it was swiblet, so we would release him first. But instead we did josheh first. People seemed to go straight to swiblet afterwards. I made small hints of who I was based on highlighting words and calling people certain names. I.E. I called the warden Fen. That was on purpose to make her think I was cosmo. People seemed to think that it wasn't swiblet because why would he make it so obvious? I mean sadistic stranger has been his title forever both on da and on IZFAS. By day 2 we realized that this wasn't going anywhere. No way that we could keep it going. And what really bugged me was when people started saying "I JUST WANNA SAVE COSMO!" I mean what the hell guys? If this was a real hacker situation, why would you say that? I know what we did was wrong. And I talk to cosmo every night, so don't go telling me I'm jealous or mad at her. I am not, she is a great friend and member. But come on. We admins all give a hard time for the site, so that was pretty offensive. Otherwise there are a few people I wanna thank who really did a great job with the games: Citrusrush, Invadertoto, Invader Neek, Invade, slucer, and haloflooder. These people all made the games more fun and showed leadership. So thanks to you members for keeping your cool. So we decided to cut it short after people started threatening to leave. I told the admins, okay we are done. People are leaving and we can't afford it. So we came on and cut it out. So that's basically all there is to the games. Thanks for reading. That is the entire story. |
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| Simply Nat | Sep 4 2010, 01:58 PM Post #17 |
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Nat fo Shizzle
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Dee, I don't hate your guts, I hate what you said there. I don't want to have a fight, I really just want to talk. TCPM managed to sum it all up quite nicely. |
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| Dee | Sep 4 2010, 02:04 PM Post #18 |
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Irken Elite
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Well I'm not trying to go like "hur, my life sucks and this is why I'm sad", no. I was just trying to explain the way I think so that others can understand me better... Regardless, I just can't think straight right now. I can't hardly understand anything the way it's supposed to be. |
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| Matts | Sep 4 2010, 02:26 PM Post #19 |
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The Ghosts Eyes
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I wasn't at the meeting, but I still want to voice my opinion on it. As G4P Posted above I did just consider it a prank or something fun to do and as the whole thing began I noticed something weird, everyone was taking it WAY too seriously, but when you think a actual hacker came you would think it was serious, but back on track I noticed that we weren't getting the reaction of fear which in any mass chaos event happens alot, but it was stranger a it went on because I saw people reffering to this site as their "lives " Now I love this site as much as the next guy and it is one of the important things in my life, but Zim should never come before your real, no matter how bad it is. that was what we were looking for, but as it progressed we saw people getting madder and madder and their was this little voice in the back of my mind that kept telling me that it was wrong and that people were really going to pay for the backlash of it and as I saw people getting really out of control I just wanted to scream it out and say something, maybe I didn't because I was afraid of what would happen, etheir I would lose all my friends and get messages along the lines of " why didn't you tell us sooner?!! How could you be so cruel!! " or something like that. Too be honest I was probably to torn over letting you guys down on this high standare we admins have set over the last year, it was a prank gone wrong and I know that we may never regain your trust, heck if it happened to me I wouldn't, but I wouldn't rant about it I would move and and contiune on, always looking toward the horizon on that goal that we finally revive Zim. I don't why I feel this way, but with all these swirling emotions I can't explain I know I can't put into words how sorry all of us are. A sorrys probable is not good enough, it can't bring back that tranquill peace of mind that you all once had. Without it people become edgy just like when the twin towers were bombed, people lose faith and their trust in others is broken, I know we can never your peace of mind, but I promise to never pull something like that EVER again. |
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| Dee | Sep 4 2010, 02:33 PM Post #20 |
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Irken Elite
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Well, I just left to go clean and such, and after some thinking while doing so, I understand why I'm so angry. I'm just disappointed. Disappointed that this was done. I remember at one of the schools in my town, someone put on a post-it note in the bathroom "the bomb will go off at 3:30". Now, as soon as it was found, they evacuated the entire school, the bomb squad came in, but there was no bomb. It was a prank. So, there is such a thing as going to far. A prank can lead to problems. I actually heard from a friend that they were trying to contact hackers to hack the site and take control away from SS. So, if you had gone on, IZFAS would probably be gone. They were about to send in the bomb squad. So next time you want to do this (should there ever be a next time) do it in the game forums, or on April Fools Day. |
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| G4P | Sep 4 2010, 02:34 PM Post #21 |
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"Slash it Slash it!"
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Okay you know what, that was life threatening. This is so much of a smaller scale that it's ridiculous. And I can guarantee that nobody came out and apologized for their action. So that is a really stupid comparison dee. No offense. |
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| Dee | Sep 4 2010, 02:39 PM Post #22 |
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Irken Elite
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I know, I was just saying. All of my analogies are over exaggerated. I'm just trying to make sure I'm understood... but I'm failing at my job. I'll stop posting now. I'll come back late tonight and see if I got my PM. Then tomorrow. I'm not thinking straight. I deserve to be shot. |
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| G4P | Sep 4 2010, 02:44 PM Post #23 |
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"Slash it Slash it!"
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Dee... Stop talking like that. Seriously.No you do not deserve to be shot. That is ridiculous. And I can bet a thousand dollars that the next thing you'd respond to that is "I know, but I'm not thinking clearly" but dee seriously. Calm down... Do whatever it is will help you out, and just try and move on. |
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| Ensign Meeka | Sep 4 2010, 05:17 PM Post #24 |
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Operations Officer
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First of all, reading everyone’s thoughts on this really made me feel better. Yesterday I probably wouldn’t have taken the time or thought to even listen to what anyone had to say because I was so angry. But today I feel…different, but still a little bottled up. Also I’m not expecting anyone to read this. Okay I’m going to say what I have to say, and then no more. To put it kindly, I’m disappointed. I would have thought the administrators would know better. The one thing that still angers me the most is the fact that the admins did this for fun/they had nothing else better to do. Not because they wanted to bring us closer, not because they wanted us to test our loyalties, but because they were bored. What were you guys thinking? If you were at all… It was a lot of unneeded stress put on a lot of people, hell you know how we feel, I don’t need to reiterate that. Ugh. I’m just happy it’s over, and it seems there wasn’t too much damage that was inflicted. We didn’t lose any data, no one I know of was hurt physically, and that’s what matters. Some egos got bruised and some feelings bashed around, but that will heal with time. I’m not sure how I feel about this anymore. I’ve taken most of your apologies, but part of me is still upset about the ordeal, I feel…betrayed in a sense. Yes, we did work together, yes, we did help each other but then when we found out it was all a lie, it dumbfounded me. I think it dumbfounded a lot of people. The fact that some of the admins played along also angers me. There had to have been more than one of you going “Guys, maybe this isn’t the greatest idea…” :\ The second day I decided, “Screw it, I have a life to attend to, the others can solve riddles. I’m done.” But that’s when everything stopped anyway. So in the end it worked out okay. I do agree with what Dee said about the situation and aftermath. Also, this isn’t about a sense of humor, because I found nothing funny of the sorts when this was going on. Hackers are scary, although I was wondering why he/she wasn’t doing any damage…D: Suspicious, yes? I also agree with TCPM, we should have our own holidays. That could be a lot of fun. We could have all sorts of games and stuff that almost everyone will enjoy. c: Also, some of us are very sensitive to teasing/bad jokes, you have to remember that. Some of us really hate those kinds of jokes. So please stop with the “get over it”, it’s not helping. :| And that’s all I have to say about the matter. The only thing that will help now is time, you can stop apologizing, you’ve done your part to heal this situation. And I mean that in a good way, not a degrading way. c: Besides, if we’re true friends, we’ll forgive and forget this, eventually that is. I won’t leave IZFAS, that would be foolish of me. I think I can forgive a stupid little stunt. xD Anyway, as I’ve said before, no more bashing anyone. The admins have more than enough guilt to go around and that is punishment enough. >:C I know this is or might be a touchy subject but, I only have one question. What happened with Tallest Sarah? I didn’t hear about that. You don’t have to explain, you can just point me to where it was discussed if at all. One last thing, and let me make it perfectly clear, I am not holding any sort of grudge against anyone for any actions taken. Your intentions were not to harm, and I truly realize that now. Much love, Meeka~~ <3 |
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| Awesomesaurous | Sep 4 2010, 05:28 PM Post #25 |
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Irken Civilian
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I was chatting with Tallest Sarah during a lot of this, and as far as I understand it, when the admins gave up the ghost, she said "this whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth." She claimed that this was pointless and unprofessional, and that maybe this wasn't working out for the moment. She implied that she wouldn't log on for at least a week - but maybe longer. That, anyway, is what I have heard. |
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| G4P | Sep 4 2010, 06:06 PM Post #26 |
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"Slash it Slash it!"
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You know what. Forget it. That's enough. You guys are being totally unreasonable. Now it is friggin old. You guys need to stop this. Seriously it's angering me. Okay. We get it. It was unprofessional we get it. Stop beating it into the ground. Okay? Seriously you guys are being really immature. WE HAVE SAID WE APOLOGIZE 20,000 TIMES! SERIOUSLY! GUYS! CUT IT OUT! Now. It isn't fair. We feel bad, we know it was unprofessional. But before that is there a single time when we did anything wrong? I don't think so. We have been there for you guys time and time again. And never have we ever turned you guys down. You can trust us okay? And it'd be different if we had to delete stuff. But no. We didn't do anything. The site is perfectly normal. We put it back up. We stopped we apologized. So get over it and move on. It won't happen again. This doesn't apply for all of you. But a lot of you have been really unfair with your posts. There, that's my opinion. |
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| Swiblet | Sep 4 2010, 06:32 PM Post #27 |
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Sadistic Stranger
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Keep in mind that most of these people weren't at the meeting, admins. Just because about 20 people forgive and understand now, because of what was said, doesn't mean that everybody else who wasn't there doesn't still have something negative to say. I'm personally happy that so many people are forgiving, and for the rest...well...it'll die down. I'd say more but I'm still at work. And G4P, the outbursts aren't helping :B Just let the anger run it's course, okay? Things will be back to normal soon.
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| Lark | Sep 4 2010, 06:35 PM Post #28 |
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I missed the meeting and the prank, but I was here on the day before it started. I saw how the banner changed, but I just assumed it was swiblet (i think his member title (you know smeet, adolescent foodcourtia employee, etc) was once sadistic stanger) and the site was under maitenance or something. so I decided to wait a day and come back. and when i did, imagine my surprise when i saw this new topic underneath all the others. I just managed to read the post on how it was a joke before everything there was taken down. so even though i'm not very affected by it, and neither do I know exactly what happened. well, it's the thought that counts. I can't really speak for the others, but my opinion is that all that really matters is that the people involved apologized. it's the thought that counts, and the admins didn't intend for the drama ensued. I agree with what Neek posted: "now is the time to just forgive each other, for we are all slightly at fault. so next time, if you want to liven the site up with a prank or something like that, I suggest a holiday or event sort of thing, basically what TCPM said. |
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| Awesomesaurous | Sep 4 2010, 07:28 PM Post #29 |
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G4p, those weren't my opinions, those were Tallest Sarah's - Meeka just asked what had happened with her and I was trying to explain. I know you apologized, please don't blow up about it. |
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| Dee | Sep 4 2010, 09:27 PM Post #30 |
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Irken Elite
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Well... I find that some of my earlier comments were hard to understand. Meeka did a better did a better job explaining. On day 2, I decided to just get off, then I got back on an hour later to find that the site was back to normal. Then I saw a thread trying to cover it up, framing a hacker. I knew this wasn't true, and again, an insult. Also, some of the attitudes thrown around were making me uncomfortable. They were what primarily makes me want to leave. Some people were nice, and wanted me to stay, and I honestly thank them for their kind words... but I just feel that some people don't want me here. And I understand that. I've been stupid and emotional, and deserve to be kicked out. I think many of my complaints are good ones... but I may have over exaggerated a few times. I won't deny that. I was indeed angry and naturally stupid and idiotic, but most of all, it just ties into one fact. My feelings were hurt, and... what more can I say? When your feelings are hurt, you act much different. When I logged on to IZFAS on Thursday and saw this joke that was insulting my intelligence (or lack thereof), I felt sick. I was just in disbelief. I don't truly know why... there are many reasons. Most of them are pretty obvious, but still. In the end, I just have nothing left to say. I'm done here. I'll be back tomorrow morning to see if I still get my PM. If not, I'll come back on the 13th. Depending on how I feel, I may or may not stick around. I don't know. I just feel that this got way out of hand, and since I knew it was the admins, I decided to make fun of it. As Cosmo stated, I changed my avatar to Battler, Beatrice's adversary, as if Beatrice was SS. But that wasn't because I was having fun. It was because I was making fun of it. Well... I'll just go for tonight. I'll come back tomorrow and deal with my inbox. I'll be thinking things through throughout my absence. Trying to come to a conclusion... I don't know. I just can't understand anything right now. I feel I should just leave, because I've already been stupid enough, but I want to stay at the same time. I'm too confused right now. I feel lightheaded and sick, and I have to wake up early tomorrow... I'll deal with IZFAS and my life tomorrow afternoon, I guess. |
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