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| Resurrection Rumors; Will Invader Zim come back? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 29 2010, 04:49 PM (6,485 Views) | |
| Super Ellie | Jun 2 2010, 06:31 PM Post #76 |
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Ellie the Pyromaniac
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Ok... if Jhonen is not running the show... that means that... Nickelodeon is going to destroy it and soil the name of Invader Zim... and this time, not with dookie... with the CURSE! The curse is that when Nickelodeon creates a good show a long time ago, they keep it running because of its success (or in this case, they bring it back). Comparing Spongebob and FOP now to the beginning of the shows, its cheezier and crappier than ever before. Has ANYONE seen some of the stupid shows on Nicktoons nowadays??? Does FANBOY AND CHUM CHUM RING A BELL??? Why don't they just destroy IZFAS and then drive a six inch nail into my head while ripping my braces (forcefully) off my teeth? |
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| Dee | Jun 2 2010, 07:32 PM Post #77 |
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Irken Elite
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Fanboy and Chum Chum is ridiculous, but I give it respect, because it references things like Star Wars and the Dramatic Chipmunk. Still, Nick sucks, Viacom sucks, Cartoon Network... is acceptable. |
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| G4P | Jun 2 2010, 07:33 PM Post #78 |
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"Slash it Slash it!"
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Aww, well if it has nothing to do with Jhonen than yes, otherwise, we should just leave it alone probly. But maybe not. |
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| Cosmographia | Jun 2 2010, 10:07 PM Post #79 |
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What time is it?
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I can't agree with you on that, TC. Mostly because when the style changes, so does the comedy; I understand that working too hard to keep it the style would probably make things too serious, but we also can't be too loose. Think about it, when FoP and SB changed their comedy and story style, the show went downhill: SpongeBob was turned into a complete moron and in FoP it was trying to do more slapstick than anything. I still think that trying to do things as the comedy and style Jhonen used is the best way to go; we can try new things and still keep it the way it was, that's what makes it so fun. |
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| Ensign Meeka | Jun 2 2010, 10:16 PM Post #80 |
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Operations Officer
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This is a time when I really wish I had cable. Though not having any TV has been sort of nice. Commercials and constant negativity was really making me unhappy. Not to mention TV was just getting stupid, most of the time there was nothing interesting to watch. They call it programming for a reason. Anywho, Jhonen Vasquez said that the time he had to work with Nickelodeon was like hell for him. He likes to work alone. I would hate to see it fall into the hands of anyone else but him. Nickelodeon has really slipped these past few years; it’s almost as if they are trying to repair their image. Even so, if what the rumors are saying are true, and it’s just all the old episodes, I’m not really missing much, I have all the DVDs and I can watch them whenever. However, the rumors about unfinished episodes being completed interests me. I am eager to see how they finish them off after all these years. Also, Amen to doing better then Nick! |
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| Awesomesaurous | Jun 3 2010, 12:18 AM Post #81 |
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Irken Civilian
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With regards to the whole Jhonen/style thing, I think what's really important is to strike the right balance between being true to the original and coming up with our own material in the same vein. While I don't think we should totally fly off the handle and create stuff that's completely out of character, I agree with TCPM in that a lot of people who are new to the Zim fandom tend to typecast the characters. We've all seen the noobs who spam youtube with "I'M GONNA SING TEH DOOM SONG NOW!!!!11!1!!!!!" and it's very important to not be that sort of person here. Personally, I don't think people give Zim enough credit and I hate that the Tallest are often portrayed in fanfictions as being extra mindless consuming things. I think we just need to remember that everyone has multiple facets to their personalities and are not just 2-dimensional catchphrase spewers. (Do half these words even exist...?) What I've noticed, for instance, is that Zim has a lot more outbursts and maniacal rantings when he is in public in his human disguise. When he's in his base in his natural form, or especially when he's in space, he's a lot more subdued and capable. (think about planet jackers, frycook what came from all that space - all the great space battles) I guess when he's disguised, a combination of culture shock and nervousness (?) make intelligence and cohesion fly out the window. And in short, characters who just do the same thing over and over again are boring. |
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| Simply Nat | Jun 3 2010, 05:56 AM Post #82 |
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Nat fo Shizzle
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The Saurous has said some wise words there, as well as TCPM. People tend to forget that the show and its characters have quite some depth (not as in "epically philosophical" but as in "twisted and very original") behind all the hilariousness as well as a good deal of darkness (I mean, come on... even GIR's a friggin' suicidal shizophrenic maniac). THAT's what made the show so awesome. I think people who write scripts have to keep that in mind. We also have to keep in mind that WE aren't Jhonen either. We're only fans and as such we have the ability to keep the show in style (because we just know it so well) and to bring in some own influences. Regarding that... I recommend to stop flaming what Nickelodeon may or may not do. It's not like their friggin' bosses would sit down and write new episodes while only thinking about money. They'd have to hire people... and those hired people might be fans just like us and attempt their best. In conclusion, I doubt that there will be new episodes unless we make them, but if it'll come true I'm going to give those episodes a chance. It's not like just because we call ourselves fans we'll ultimately do a great job. |
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| Alohilani | Jun 3 2010, 07:01 AM Post #83 |
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Firestarter
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OH, HECK YES, YOU GUYS! *applauds* THANK YOU! Oh, gosh, I hate it when people don't give the characters enough depth. My favorite thing about the original show is the fact that the characters DON'T always behave as expected. It's awesome. And only, say, 5% of fans seem to notice. -_- As for the new episodes, I'm going to be a heretic here and say that if Nick decides to finish the scripts that were already written, they'll do a better job than us! Uh, because they have money! And an animation studio with professionals! We may be driven and all, but we're all amateurs and pretty understaffed, to boot. As for what happens if Nick tries to write their own stuff minus the original creative staff, aaaahhh. Well, I'd have to see it to truly judge it but I wouldn't have high hopes for it. <_< Still, maybe they'd surprise us. And just because Jhonen and Steve Ressel wouldn't come back- it's true that they were a huge part of the original show, but they might get, say, Eric Trueheart or Roman Dirge or both back! There are plenty of people who worked on the show and DIDN'T say they were leaving Nickelodeon forever. Edited by Alohilani, Jun 3 2010, 07:03 AM.
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| Awesomesaurous | Jun 3 2010, 01:30 PM Post #84 |
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Irken Civilian
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Amen. We can criticize it all we want, but everyone here knows they'd watch them, even if just to see what the nicky people did. |
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| Dee | Jun 3 2010, 10:02 PM Post #85 |
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Irken Elite
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Maybe... we should ask Nick if we can get jobs at their studio and bring the show back! ![]() ... ... ... *crickets chirping* Just a thought
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| TCPM | Jun 3 2010, 11:58 PM Post #86 |
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Irken Invader
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haha nice try. |
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| Slucer | Jun 4 2010, 02:26 PM Post #87 |
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Floating
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As far as Nick bringing the show back, it is final that Zim will be on for their summer thingy, but I don't know about finishing episodes. I would feel bad for Jhonen if they DID bring it back because people would probably start bothering him more then they already do. When it comes to script writing, all I can say is that you can't force it. Invader Zim was less a Jhonen-style and more a new style of it's own. Even the drawings seem to be different (to me, at least). Zim humor is more lightly dark and sprinkled with funny bits. Each character, even the minor ones, had their own personality and body. None of them really fit a stereotype like some would think, i.e G.I.R is adorable and silly. TO me, G.I.R is one of the more frightening things because it happens to be his stupdity (yeah, he's stupid, but like TCPM said, he does have his glory moments) that reins catastrophe and pain upon the others. Some of this was probably said before, but I repeated it, so there |
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| Dee | Jun 6 2010, 02:46 AM Post #88 |
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Irken Elite
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...OK, I saw that commercial like 5 times tonight. Indeed, Zim will be back in the summer. EXACTLY how is to be found out. |
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| Alohilani | Jun 9 2010, 07:54 AM Post #89 |
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Firestarter
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YOU GUYS YOU GUYS I had this really weird dream, that it started airing again, and I was watching the broadcast of The Nightmare Begins, and they had ADDED NEW SCENES TO IT And the new scenes were totally random and STUPID and had nothing to do with ANYTHING and Zim's voice was different in them and it was WEIRD and DUMB and BAD So the episode ended and I went the computer and started complaining about it with a friend of mine on Skype and then I woke up and was like 'Oh thank goodness that was a dream ._.' |
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| Bladez636 | Jun 9 2010, 03:57 PM Post #90 |
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Sounds like something they'd do...... Sounds like what Fox Kids did to Thunderbirds How could this be turned into that. Now a similar thing with Zim would just make me want to kill myself |
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