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Catherine of Aragon
Topic Started: Feb 3 2011, 05:43 PM (402 Views)
Princess Catherine of Aragon
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Princess Catherine of Aragon
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Meet Catherine! Contrary to the way history portrays her, she isn't all doom and gloom. She enjoys music and dancing when she's not spending time at Mass or sewing shirts for the poor people of England with her ladies. She's witty and well-versed in court and world politics. A very devoted Roman Catholic, she's also a humanist and agrees with many of the ideas put forth by writers like Erasmus and Thomas More. She is not afraid to defend her beliefs, especially when her faith is questioned, and despises all heretics. Though her loyalty lies with England, part of her heart will always be in Spain. Sometimes she finds herself very homesick and lonely, especially since most of her Spanish household was dismissed and sent back to Spain for fear they were spies. For obvious reasons, she dislikes the French very much, though she also dislikes the ideas of war and excessive violence. In her ideal world, Europe is united under the Roman Catholic faith.
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Let's start with the obvious. It'd be nice for Catherine to have some friends at the English court, even though she's Spanish, a widow and technically a burden to the King's court. Possible friends would most likely be Catholics, humanists or just good people in general. It's highly unlikely she'll befriend someone who doesn't like Spain or who is well-known for their immoral activity. But hey, you never know! I won't shut anyone out :]

And then she's going to need some enemies. People who hate Spain and foreign influence might work for starters, even though Catherine holds no real sway in the English court. She's going to frown upon heretics simply by nature and want to see England and the rest of Europe rid of Protestantism. She'll also probably dislike the especially corrupt officers of the court.

I think some of Catherine's ladies-in-waiting might fall in the middle between friends and enemies. Some could be sincerely loyal to Catherine - especially those who came with her from Spain - and others could be planted in her household by other scheming members of the court. Catherine will have her own eyes-and-ears scattered throughout the continent to keep herself informed of what's happening where, especially in regards to her own situation in England.

And speaking of the situation - Catherine has claimed over and over again that she is a virgin, but despite her hopes, King Henry VIII chose another wife over her. Now she's stuck relying on the King's generosity until she remarries again. Since she's the daughter of two powerful monarchs, it's going to be very difficult to find someone of her station to marry. Until the king makes a match for her, she'll be a resident of the English court, or wherever Henry opts to place her. Perhaps it might be interesting for Catherine to fall in love, either with someone that doesn't love her back or someone that loves her but she can't have. Either way, it'll up the drama in this lady's life :] Obviously Catherine isn't the type to go sleeping around, but who says she can't be subject to the ol' butterflies-in-the-stomach syndrome?

Oh goodness, I think that's enough from me. xD I can't wait to hear from you!

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Elizabeth Spencer
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First off, I love Catherine a lot. Secondly, I have some people who would probably love Catherine as well.

Mary Boleyn is that type of person who goes sleeping around. I don't think her and Catherine would get along at all. I'm not really sure of anything at this point. So I suppose I'll leave her until I do think of something.

Charles Turner is a servant, who speaks like a moron, and is an absolute womanizer. But he's actually really nice if you actually get to know. He currently is smitten with Mary Talbot Percy, but being Chuck, he'd probably take a fancy to her, as he does every women he comes across.

Elizabeth Spencer I can see getting along really well with Catherine. They have very, very similar values and interests, and are both sort of outsiders in England (Ellie just got here from France a year ago) so I think they need to do some friend like activities. xD

John Gates is a knight. And he's way too charming and heroic and all that jazz. If he didn't didn't have flaws, he'd be a Gary Stu, basically. xD Anyways, he was married to Mary Denny, but she died two years ago, and now he's looking for a new wife, and will marry for nothing but love. And holy crap, he's sexy I think he'd like Catherine. They could be really good friends, I would think. He's sort of into Judith Willoughby, so I don't know if he and Catherine could have anything romantic, but they could be really good friends. I can see that.
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Katherine Parr
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Katherine Parr is the resident spinster/Mother Hen of Queen Francesca's household. They have this bizarre mother-daughter sort of thing going on. She is really smart which doesn't really endear her to the male population of Hampton Court.

Simon Gifford is the Master Hostler at the Palace stables. I cannot really envision him interacting with Catherine unless she has some sort of horse related problems...since he is the unofficial Horse Whisperer of the Palace too
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John de Vere
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OMG! For some reason, I see my de Vere really, really, really liking Catherine. He hates the French and damns Henry VIII for marrying an Italian, for he thinks an alliance to Spain is HELLO, FOR-THE-WIN. He doesn't like humanists because they don't like war, but, whatever he'll get over it. I'd love to volunteer him as one of those wants-but-can't-have things, if you be interested. He'd be a little wary since she's Spanish, and ...well you know how the foreigner thing goes. Still, I LOVE CoA.

He's Lord Great Chamberlain to Henry VIII, so they're pretty close and Henry looks up to him and what not. PRETTY COOL. de Vere's more battle-let's-spill-some-blood-oriented, he isn't into major frivolity or anything stupid :P like rumors and anything. He'd like Catherine's piousness and how she's discreet but incredibly intelligent. PM me if you want!
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Thomas Howard
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CATHERINE OF ARAGON, YAY!

I have Eustace Chapuys, he's from Savoy but he LOVES Spain, was her ambassador and now works for the Emperor in the English court. Isaid in his bio that he accompanied Catherine in her trip to England and tried to help her out when she was in trouble with Henry VII. They totally should be friends. He's a devout Catholic (former priest), a humanist and he hates England, but loves Catherine like an uncle.

Thomas Howard doesn't like her because she's Spanish, end of story. Perhaps one of her English ladies should work for him?

Edmund Howad hasn't got much position in the court. He likes everybody. They'd get along, but can't see anything specific in their future.
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Thomas More
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So. Hai. :)

I have six characters, but here are the ones I can see CoA getting on with and having the most interaction with:

Sir Thomas More, the barrister, humanist, and writer of Utopia. Friends with Erasmus and Chapuys, adviser to the king, and devout man of God. He would feel badly about her position in England and I can see him being her confidant and ear of sorts, if she so wished it.

Cardinal Thomas Wolsey would be indifferent to her unless something happened to where a lasting alliance with Spain could be procured. He's a holy man but very corrupt, so I can see him not liking her on that principle alone.

So welcome! I hope you enjoy FKAC! :D
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William Spencer
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Okey McDokey, I have 3 characters!

Wills Spencer - Oh boy, lots of potential for conflict here. The lovely Earl of Wilmington, twenty-three, would probably have a complex outlook on CoA. Well, let's start with the fact that he half-french and he's an Anjou. Currently, the house of Anjou and Aragon DO NOT get along. Both hold an Angevin claim to the Kingdom of Naples, and Naples has been the site of much war-ing between the French and the Spanish. Right now, William's uncle de Guise is the former Viceroy of Naples (this is true IRL, but IRL he died in 1503 and in our AU here, he's still alive and intent on regaining Naples)and the french claimant to it, and William happens to be his heir as he doesn't have a son. So yeah, they likely would not like each other at all on that principle alone. However, and this is the funny part, they might have a bit of respect for each other because they are both humanists and devout Catholics. Ellie Spencer is his sister, so if CoA ends up liking her, perhaps through her is how they'd develop a tolerance or respect for each other. I would see them really like each other if it weren't for the french thing. So maybe start out not liking each other on principle and then ending up liking each other?

Sir William Compton - He's the king's bestie and he's a bit of a man-whore and very flirtatious. He's a nice guy, funny, for the most part, but I don't see much here.

Sir Arthur Lambert - He's the same age as Henry VIII, very Catholic, and he's Wolsey's SUPER SEKRIT bastard son and no one knows. He is fairly chivalrous and gallant. I think they'd get along very well.
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Catherine Willoughby
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Alright...

Henry VIII I see him caring about Catherine, and having sort of been infatuated with her once; so he's well disposed towards her, enjoys her company, things like that. They should have a thread together, me thinks!

Catherine Dudley With an older CoA, I had Catherine's mother Lady Mary be a confidante of sorts to Catherine of Aragon (as IRL Catherine's mother was Maria de Salinas). So, Catherine would like CoA and probably would go out of her way to spend time with her; they're both smart and well-educated ladies, so... I think that could work, even though Catherine just got thrown in the Tower for suspected heresy. Eek.

I can't think of anything for William Parr...
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Henry Stafford
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I have too many chars to list, but I might be dropping a few soon, but the one main char I can throw at you is Alison Clifford, because I've stated that she is one of Catherine's ladies-in-waiting.
So if you have anything that you want to do with her let me know!
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Thank you so much for the warm welcome everyone! If you want to plot via IM, please get in touch - my AIM is xsweetshortstuff :]

Mary Boleyn - Catherine definitely frowns on whorish behavior. Maybe she'd try to set Mary straight, though it probably isn't her place so I don't know if she actually would. Ahhhh I don't know xD

Charles Turner - Mat Gordon. Is my favorite. Ever. <333 I'm going to try not to make that the reason they thread together, lol. Some servant/Catherine interaction might be interesting for the pair of them :]

Elizabeth Spencer - They might not get along depending on if Ellie embraces her French heritage - Catherine doesn't like the French at all. But I feel like she's the kind of person who could see past her prejudices. Maybe Catherine starts off disliking her and they eventually become friends?

John Gates - Oh he's very pretty too :D You have an excellent choice in play-bys! Good friends is fine with me :]

Katherine Parr - Real life wives of Henry VIII represent! Catherine probably doesn't like Katherine because of the whole heretic thing; obviously Catherine is very Catholic. Perhaps that might put them at odds? On the other hand, Catherine would definitely understand the whole not being married yet thing - hm. A complex relationship, perhaps?

Simon Gifford - Ooo, Horse Whisperer! I'm not sure that Catherine and Simon would ever interact, but I'll keep brainstorming!

John de Vere - I think their relationship could definitely be very interesting, especially if it developed into the 'want-but-can't-have' type. She wouldn't like his talk of violence, but if she developed feelings for him, she could probs get over it =P I'll PM!

Eustace Chapuys - I love the uncle/niece relationship. Definitely friends. I'll send you a PM, fo' sho'.

Thomas Howard - Mutual disdain, perhaps? I like having a spy amongst her ladies. I'm not sure who's in her household, though O___O *is useless*

Edmund Howard - If he likes everybody, then she'll probably like him. We don't need to have a thread for them now, but if they ever meet up, perhaps they're friendly? :]

Sir Thomas More - Definitely BFFLs. She wants to be introduced to Erasmus. I see her trusting and confiding in him. Humanists unite!

Cardinal Thomas Wolsey - Oh, she definitely hates him. Obviously she's very pro-getting rid of the corruption in the church. She's definitely disgusted with him xD

Wills Spencer - Oooo that would be a very complicated relationship indeed. Catherine would definitely start out not liking him at all, but between Ellie and the Catholic/humanist element, I think they could eventually work out an understanding and a friendship. Ahhh I love complex plotting!

Sir William Compton - I think Catherine wants to drown all manwhores in holy water. xD I don't think there's much there either, unless he's brave enough to hit on her. That might be OOC.

Sir Arthur Lambert - Helloooooo Ben Barnessss <333 I'm a little in love with him too. Ahem. Anyway. I think they could become pretty good friends; I'm not sure how Catherine would react if it's ever revealed that Wolsey has a super sekrit bastard son - I think her disgust with Wolsey will skyrocket, but I'm not sure if she'll start hating on Arthur too.

Henry VIII - Yayyy, friends! I don't think Catherine is actively pursuing him anymore because he's a married man now, but obviously she wouldn't refuse the king's company. Maybe she'd drop hints every once and a while about him finding a husband for her. A thread would be fab, though!

Catherine Dudley - Maybe the two Catherines were well-established friends before the tower incident? I think that'd make it a lot easier to look past the whole heresy thing and help the two be on friendly terms :] Spanish Catherine would probs have a bit of a problem with English Catherine being a heretic, but I imagine after a while Spanish Catherine would miss their friendship enough to repair their relationship... so she can try to convert English Catherine back to Catholicism xD

Alison Clifford - Yay, a lady for Catherine =D I might be looking for an English lady to be a spy in Catherine's household for the Duke of Norfolk - I'm not sure if you're interested in a plot like that, but if you are, let me know! Perhaps we can think of something for Alison and Catherine to do together.
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Elizabeth Spencer
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Mary

She could definitely use some setting straight. For. Sure.

Chuck

Mat is so effing fantastic Chuck would love to hang out with Catherine. Although just a heads up, your IQ may go down some upon reading any of his dialogue. xD

Ellie

Hooboy. Ellie embraces her French heritage so much it's sort of ridiculous. Even though she has the most English name in the entire world and her father was English she's still very, very vive le France. Her brothers are trying to assimilate her, which makes her really pissy. I still think it'd be effing hilarious to thread these two at some point because of that. But she's a real doll, and is extremely naive, and wouldn't understand that many she should hang out with Catherine.

John

John likes friends. He might like, admire her sort of, but he knows she's waaaaay higher than him and they wouldn't get married anyways. But friends are always good. xD
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Mary Clairmonte
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Mary Clairmonte - Is it okay if Mary knows a bit a French and is a devoted Catholic? Will that be enough for Catherine to befriend her?
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Mary Percy

I could see Mary really liking Catherine's ideals and morals. I'm not really sure how they'd exactly get along, though.

Anne Shilston

Anne continues to waver in the Catholic faith because of everything that's going on in her life. She goes to the Chapel a lot now and she could even run into Catherine there. I think they'd get along well.

Elizabeth Blount

Bessie is one of Francesca's ladies-in-waiting. She shares Catherine's enjoyment of music. She's really in love with it. Perhaps friends?
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Mary Boleyn - Poor Mary, she's a good kid. A thread is a must!

Mat Gordon Chuck Turner - If we can figure out a meeting between these two, I'd definitely love one!

Ellie Spencer - D'awww, cutie. A thread would definitely be hysterical! I think Catherine would start off disliking her because of the whole French thing, but then after she sees how naive Ellie is, she'd decide she's not that bad.

John Gates - Friendsies, fo' sho'! Let me know which of the threads you want to do and which you'd like me to start :]

Mary Clairmonte - Catherine is very anti-French, so it'll depend on Mary's personality. Being Catholic certainly doesn't hurt her cause! We can have a thread and see how it goes :]

Mary Percy - I'm not sure how they'd get alone either, but I bet we can work out something fun :]

Anne Shilston - Aww, poor dear. Perhaps Catherine can be one of the good voices of Catholicism for her?

Elizabeth Blount - Catherine would love to enjoy music with someone! A thread is a must! Let me know which ones you'd like to do now and which you'd like me to start :]
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Mary Clairmonte
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Yay!
Will the Princess wish for me to start or will she prefer to do so?
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