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| Who is the best girl for Carter? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 1 2005, 07:42 AM (4,130 Views) | |
| Ashleigh | May 7 2006, 06:12 PM Post #136 |
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First off, I'm not asking for the Luby baby to die. I think it would be the most cruel thing to do to Luka especially; like you previously said; given everything he has been through. I can't see TPTB having the baby die; it just wouldn't be right and it would be far too much like the CarKem story (by means of unexpected pregancy in a early/rebound(?...) relationship) To add baby problems to that just wouldn't be right. But I do think that the scare of the baby may trigger some thought in both Luka and Abby; have them re-evaluate their relationship - especially since they have both said that they haven't really defined their relationship. I think this will force them to. As for Goran being on the show and Noah not...I'm asking you to think why they brought Carter back. Sure he is the lead role, the only remaining Season 1 character; the fan's favourite and the one person most associated with the show. But look at it this way. Carter's story could have been rounded off very easily; we could have been given a believable exit (not that his actual exit wasn't...but a more worthy departure. I guess that's what I'm trying to say). Carters departure wasn't fitting to the character...and neither was Susans this season either but that was entirley different (on the inside). They knew Noah was leaving and that this was his last episode but what did we get? I party crashed by randoms; one touching(?) speech from Luka and then what? The infamous "you set the tone" passed onto Morris?? and as for Carby...putting my ship aside I really don't think handing a letter to someone is the proper way to close off a five year relationship/friendship/whatever. Granted it did "fit" with the characters and it was touching...it just didn't sit well. (Am I contradicting myself? Sorry if I am... ). I know I've lost what I was trying to say... Yeah, so Carter. Noah wants to be a part of the end of ER. He has said it before and I can get you the evidence of it (not at hand right now). TPTB have more in store for him. His story will FINALLY come to an end at the end of ER and I just don't believe that CarKem is the end for him (at least not as it stands in Season 12). The same goes with Luby. It could be entirley possible that TPTB are setting the Luby story up so that through Season 13 they do face problems but they resolve them by the end of Season 14 (granted that is the end of ER). As much of me would like to believe that; believe that Abby will end up happy with her family and Luka...part of me doesn't. Samka didn't get the closure they should have gotten and maybe that's yet to come...or maybe they wont get it at all. Same goes with Carby.
I will have to agree with you there. I think it would take a genious of writing to out them back together...but it has happened before. Noah (yeah; I'm going back to this) has stated that there is still a possibility for Carby to have another round...it may be un-likley but it's not impossible. Go back to last year...Luby was un-likley but it most definetley wasn't impossible; yet here we are with a Luby baby on the way. I don't think Luby II was in the master plan for ER; nor do I think CarKem was. ER was contracted to end by Season 10...Carby broke up end of season 9/early season 10 (depends on how you look at it) and it has been stated that it would have ended Carby enventually (as the CarKem story would have been different). I'm not saying this means anything; but I'm also saying it does. I think that Carter has a bigger story ahead of him and I think it's naive to think his story is finished.
Agree to disagree??
Like I've said before; I don't think this is end game for carter. I think we'll see much more of him to come....and if even after all of that it ends CarKem I can't say that I'll be disappointed but I know I'll have stuck with my ship and that's enough for me |
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| Luby4eva | May 7 2006, 06:28 PM Post #137 |
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Carby never had any chemistry when they were together. You could tell by the way they kissed. When Abby and Carter kissed you can tell something was missing. When you see Luka and Abby kiss they are all over each other! It all has to do with The actors and actresses in it. Noah and Maura didnt have any chemistry together. If you look at Goran and Maura you can tell they are friends off screen becuase they have great chemistry when they are together. The way they act you might even think they were really together... If you didnt know they were both married to other people. Anyway... Don't mean to get off subject... I voted to Lucy because I liked them together... They looked cute together. |
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| Laerke | May 9 2006, 03:22 PM Post #138 |
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I'm with Luby4eva on that one.. you said everything that needed to be said
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| luby5784 | May 10 2006, 05:34 AM Post #139 |
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I put Kem, but of course abby was my 2nd choice, but i think that abby should be more with luka. They belong together. |
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| HumanShield | May 26 2006, 11:18 PM Post #140 |
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Of course, I love Abby mostest...but I voted for Kem. Carter seemed happier with Kem, she understood about Africa and stuff...and Abby was just too much for him. He couldn't handle it. Besides, with Carter gone, we made room for Luby II! |
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| Mrye | May 27 2006, 06:57 AM Post #141 |
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I was for Lucy, but she died so that isn't going to happend. So I think Kem is the best one for him. I don't like her character, but she makes him happy and that is was really counts in the end. I don't choose Abby, because she's happy now with Luka. |
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| liamaria | Jun 9 2006, 02:01 PM Post #142 |
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Okay, here it goes. I was a die-hard Carby. Okay, okay, I still am a die-hard Carby. And i think that it is out of a love for Abby, a connection with her. Because she is the one who is imperfectly real and that is what makes her truly beautiful. She is Abby; she has a history and a ton of baggage. And more than anything you want her to make it with carter because he is prince-charming of the real-world. They were soul mates. Yeah maybe they lacked the physical chemistry, but they know each other better than anyone else. They saved each other but also pained eachother. Isn't that what true love is? It isn't bliss, is it? I guess you have to decide for yourself. But I think that true love embodies the joys and the pain. So the flaw is that Carter was raised in the BIG life where everything was on a large scale. Charities etc. Abby was grew up in a situation where she had to do everything possible to save her family of three. They both want to help and are doing everything they can. But underneath they both have internal flaws. Abby ignores these flaws and does what she has always done. Carter tries to solve his flaws by going out into the big world. Carter is a dreamer, and idealist, a Gatsby. He loves Abby who is intrinsically associated with his past; she knows too much. He wants to leave the past behind and truly make a stand that he feels is equal to his family's. This is why Carter flees to Africa. And the half the reason a Carby such as myself is so upset is that Carter gets his heroic life in Africa with a very, very gorgeous woman. And she gets a stable life in Chicago. They both get what they want in their own seperate worlds but what we, the viewers, want is to see those worlds woven together. This is my rant, if you have read this far I apologize for the messiness of it all. Basically I vote for Abby or no one. I am a dreamer though so I may hold out. But the flame of hope seems small. |
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| MJS | Jun 10 2006, 01:55 AM Post #143 |
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that made me so mad! to think that the same (almost holy :P) words that were spoken to mark and carter were even uttered anywhere near a no good pot smoker like morris is absolutely disgusting! ugh. what were TPTB thinking? i was literally yelling at the TV. both liamaria and ashleigh made good points. although i'm sure luka and abby are both pretty, which makes luby pretty, they don't communicate at all. carter and abby were best friends before anything else, so they actually had a relationship.
yeah, that's true and to get back on topic with the thread... carter never cared for anyone else like he did for abby. she is the only woman that we have seen him with on the show who he actually acts like himself around. if that made any sense lucy was great, but they seemed more like brother/sister than anything else. |
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| Delusions of Adequacy | Jun 10 2006, 04:57 AM Post #144 |
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What have they been doing all season? They've communicated more and more honestly with each other than I've ever seen them do in any other relationship. What they dont always do is agree and you know thats life but they work it out in the end. And all that so called communication didnt make Carter and Abby able to be what the other needed in the end did it? |
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| Dev | Jun 11 2006, 03:58 PM Post #145 |
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it took them like a million years for them to accualy "cominicate" with each other and what was with that whole proposal thing? |
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| Liana | Jun 11 2006, 04:12 PM Post #146 |
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OK, their first relationship was characterised by poor communication, but they became good friends in S8. Anyway, it doesn't matter whether it took them ages to do so - they weren't very good at communicating in any of their relationships, IMHO - they're talking now. The proposal? Well, marriage was gonna have to be mentioned at some point, and Luka took an opportunity as it appeared. So it's not perfect - what relationship is? |
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I would put some shipper message here, but I'm just not *that* kind of fan... Logic is a systematic method of coming to the wrong conclusion with confidence. Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri? | |
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| Dev | Jun 11 2006, 05:27 PM Post #147 |
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LOL I guess im still trying to get over carby what can i say? ill always be a carby fan......... |
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| Delusions of Adequacy | Jun 11 2006, 05:33 PM Post #148 |
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What the proposal that was so much worse than being yelled at on a rooftop or not actually proposed to at all? Carby had the proposall issue sorted, huh? It hasnt taken them a million years to communicate. Looks like they do what most people in relationships do, someties they talk and sometimes they dont but they understand each other and move right along. Just friends? Nope, not working for either of them, so do the other thing and lookie here, they're both smiling more in one episode that Ive seen either of them smile forever, obviously having a total blast. Baby? Hard one but hey, talk about it for like 2 weeks and make a decision. Baptism? disagreement, one of them backs down. Marriage? disagreement - and who knows what will happen. The whole "Carby communicated" thing i don't get. Doesnt anyone remember she was a relapsed alcaholic? They didn't communicate real well about that and in the end they couldnt communicate at all. Carter comes home from Africa and Abby cant even hear what he's saying about what it was like for him. They were totally only thinking about themselves by then. Abby was right it was doomed. The right girls for Carter is whoever the writers sayis the right girl for carter. Might not be who you want but tht isnt the question in the thread title. |
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| themexican | Jun 11 2006, 06:14 PM Post #149 |
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you all have good points. i think that Carter and Abby were more friends than lovers(?) and during the relationship the most of the time they were fighting. i think that one of their problems were that Abby never shows her emotions to Carter and Carter trying to make Abby's life "better". in my opinion Carter was better with Lucy or even Susan when he was with her he was always laughing about everything. Or Wendall! anyone who keep him away from Kem i dont like herAlex |
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| strawbewwiez | Jun 11 2006, 06:47 PM Post #150 |
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Kem.... I watched ER all the way up until Abby's and Carter's union....... i stopped watching ER until i accidently stumbled upon Two Ships.....thats when i started watching season 12....starting from number 1 all over just to see how Luby got together again.......[season 12...] Plus....Carter seems happier with Kem.... |
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