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PH-Russian naval exercise
Topic Started: May 21 2012, 09:24 PM (4,108 Views)
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Moscow Open To Joint Exercises

By ROY C. MABASA
May 21, 2012, 9:03pm

MANILA, Philippines -- The Russian Federation is open to the idea of conducting military joint exercises with the Philippines in the area of anti-piracy, and search and rescue operations, similar in nature to what it conducted with Indonesia at the beginning of the year.

However, according to Russian Ambassador to the Philippines Nikolay Kudashev, to make such an activity a regular practice and to introduce the idea of camaraderie into the military-to-military relationship of Moscow and Manila, both countries need to keep in mind the “new regional architecture” and to shed “the ghost of Cold War.”

"While the ghost of the Cold War exists and while the traditional alliances would still keep that divisive nature, that would still be a problem,” Kudashev told Manila Bulletin in an interview at his official residence in Forbes Park, Makati City.

The Russian envoy said certain aspects could still give the feeling that the Philippines is still living under the Cold War era.

“You inherited it from the previous times and you need more of mutual understanding, more of talking to one another, more of confidence to get free of those ghosts,” he stated. “This is my personal feeling.”

Kudashev noted that the documents of certain treaties the Philippines signed with other countries, particularly the United States such as the Mutual Defense Treaty (MDT), actually originated during the Cold War era.

“What we believe is necessary now, and this is a larger issue, is to think about re-adjusting, I'll try to be as delicate as possible, I would not say dismantling,” Kudashev said.

“Re-adjusting these alliances and making them fit the current of the new age, the current of the new reality in the Asia Pacific, the current of cooperation, of facing together the new threats, of protecting economic cooperation, of facilitating business confidence. We should think about it,” he said.

“Of utmost importance now is to look into the future, to design a new regional set up, to look for a way and that would not be easy,” he said.

In the possible joint Philippine-Russia military exercises, Kudashev cited the recent visit of three Russian Navy ships to Manila.

The ships, which include the Russian anti-submarine destroyer Admiral Panteleyev, sea tanker Boris Botuma, and rescue tug Fotiy Krylov, sailed into Philippine shores last February.

The Russian ambassador said during the visit, Russian sailors introduced themselves to the civilian as well as to the military leadership of the Philippines

He said the crew even conducted some preliminary naval exercises at the Manila Harbor.

“During the meetings with Filipino navy men and Filipino coast guard, (the Russian crew) discussed the issue of conducting joint exercise,” Kudashev said.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/360129/mosco...joint-exercises
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may be this kind of ex. with russia will lead to buy of arms from Russia
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This will be good for Filipino-Russo relations and it gives us first-hand inspection of their military wares to dispel and myths about their equipments being inferior to the west.
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On the contrary, the same could be said to them that they still have the ghost of communism. Remember they are the founders of communism. I think it is too fast too soon. Mutual trust is built over time. When the going gets tough such a war or WPS standoff that is where you will know who your true friends are. They could be wolves in the guise of the sheeps clothing
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icefrog
May 22 2012, 12:36 AM
This will be good for Filipino-Russo relations and it gives us first-hand inspection of their military wares to dispel and myths about their equipments being inferior to the west.

just like India. look how they turned out, i think we should push this through.
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May 22 2012, 01:15 AM
just like India. look how they turned out, i think we should push this through.

Problem is there are still lots of Russophobes and lack the insight of an advantage of having a relationship with Russia.

We don't have MDT with Russia, so we shouldn't expect them to come to our aid. In fact, it is to our advantage if they stay neutral and not intervene as they say they want to do.

It's not like Russia will come to India's or Vietnam's aid if they go to war with China.
They will stay neutral but remain suppliers of said countries.

These are just exercises. This ain't too fast too soon but long overdue so don't know what's the fuss is all about other than being Russophobes.

The MDT is solid so that ain't going nowhere but MDT does not mean we get deep discounts on EDAs nor a guarantee we get sophisticated technology. The MDT will also not dissolve if we buy outside the US. Our request still has to be taken up and approved by US Congress. Our experience with the Cutters and request for the F-16s should already have been a lesson but some people are just too hard headed.

India is both a US ally and a Russian ally. There is no unwritten rule, you can't be an ally of both the US and Russia. Heck, India is pretty much collecting allies in Russia, US, France and they are also reaching out to us, Bangladesh and other countries. India is being very smart w/c we should emulate. We can't rely on the US alone.





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My understanding of the words of the Russian ambassador is that we should distance ourselves from the USA if we want closer relationships with them. Also, new regional architecture? Meaning them and China? By all means, let's buy arms from Russia, and conduct joint naval exercises. But I'd think long and hard before allying ourselves with them. Especially with Putin still in power.
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atreidesx69
May 22 2012, 07:14 PM
My understanding of the words of the Russian ambassador is that we should distance ourselves from the USA if we want closer relationships with them. Also, new regional architecture? Meaning them and China? By all means, let's buy arms from Russia, and conduct joint naval exercises. But I'd think long and hard before allying ourselves with them. Especially with Putin still in power.

youre right: remeber maybe the bear is cudly & cute from the outside: it can still bite you in the neck.... still , i'll rather put my trust onto the Eagle rather to the Bear :salute:
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May 22 2012, 08:50 PM
youre right: remeber maybe the bear is cudly & cute from the outside: it can still bite you in the neck.... still , i'll rather put my trust onto the Eagle rather to the Bear :salute:

We are connected with the US culturally and economically more than Russia. So it'll never happen that we will be switching sides in terms of alliance. We might buy some equipment from them but that'll be the most we will do.

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There is no rule saying we should only be allied with the US. The cold war between the US and Russia is long gone.

US astronauts are even hitch-hiking on Russian rockets now side-by-side with Russian cosmonauts.

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