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| PN eyes warship building deal with Vietnam | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 29 2012, 07:41 AM (9,366 Views) | |
| zztopy | Mar 29 2012, 09:06 AM Post #11 |
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read frenzy's post..yes we have he know how but those are mostly in the private sector, our PN people doesn't have the same level of ability thats why this agreement with VPN for training of its personnel, unless the PN has the capability to attract those high paid ship architects, designers, builders from Keppel & FBMA. if you care to open your myopic eyes more and comprehend the article more instead of being blinded by your political views & compulsion to rant then the answer is right before you, comprende? but then people like you will never be satisfied, im sure you will find reason to blame the current government why the pn people are not as skilled as those in the private sector when it comes to shipbuilding.
see how your kind tend to generalize and troll/flame just to advance your agenda? |
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| spraret | Mar 29 2012, 09:13 AM Post #12 |
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| Frenzy | Mar 29 2012, 09:19 AM Post #13 |
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Interesting, but I think you should know that building a warship is different from building a commercial vessel. You cannot just hire a consultant or partner with a private shipyard who has not yet built a warship, like most of the local shipyards. With this planned training of PN personnel at a military shipyard in Vietnam is a clear indication that the current government has a plan towards a self reliant PN. Contrary to your rant, I see this capability building, which has been neglected by past governments, as initial steps towards the realization of what you have been ranting about. |
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| superman | Mar 29 2012, 09:53 AM Post #14 |
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Frenzy I won't debate with you I'm just expressing my opinion and this is my last piece for your thread, IMHO we are capable of building our own we already doned it in the past though there is some technical shortcomings I think , but it pains me to think that we are an island nation with so many talented and trained ship builders but we can't even built our own without foreign assistance? Vietnam is just starting it if we are to get some advance knowledge then get it thru known military shipbuilders that has no interest in the WPS zone. By the way I don't think commercial shipbuilders are not capable of building a warship who build Korean, Japanese, Australian warship isn't it their well known private companies? |
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| horizon | Mar 29 2012, 10:04 AM Post #15 |
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kulang lang talaga sa reading comprehension ang iba dito from the article:
kaya nga dun sa vietnam ipadala for training dahil walang shipyard dito na nakagawa ng modern warship
kailangan pa ba i=explain to, i comprehend nyo di ba ang ibig sabihin ay mas mahal ang refurbishing at repairing sa commercial dockyards hitman's:
eto my ginagawa na nga..pangungunahan mo pa, who knows after this training something tangible will really happen dapat ang tanong mo bakit di ito ginawa noon pa ng mga sinaunang administrasyon from superman:
this already happened with the LCT Tagbanua, who really knows that more indigenous projects are in the pipeline, but the Tagbanua was built by a private shipyard which is really not that difficult since the Tagbanua is essentially just a commercial vessel. the gist of the article is the pn wants to upgrade the capabilities of its personnel and it cannot do this effectively if it partners with a commercial shipyard like keppel, e logical lang na when this opportunity for training at a friendly navy's shipyard who has built 500 tonner military vessels then by all means the pn should send its technical people there. |
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| KFIR | Mar 29 2012, 10:05 AM Post #16 |
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Our shipbuilding industry is for mostly commercial and merchant ships. |
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| Frenzy | Mar 29 2012, 10:20 AM Post #17 |
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That's why we have to improve on this shortcomings, hence training is necessary.
The PN has its own people which it would like to train. What you are referring to are those working already in the private sector.
Vietnam has built a relatively modern military ship: http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=9883 Why not learn from them when the opportunity is there to take advantage of.
We are referring to local shipyards, do you know of one that has built corvettes, frigates, destroyers, cruisers, etc? |
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| KFIR | Mar 29 2012, 10:39 AM Post #18 |
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The historical Cavite Naval Shipyard should be revived and modernized for this purpose. |
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| seWer Rat | Mar 29 2012, 03:54 PM Post #19 |
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Vietnam built a 1-million dollar warship. It's a good thing we will be sending some of the PN boys there, maybe learn a few things how to build a warship that cheap.
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| fernandez705 | Mar 29 2012, 11:43 PM Post #20 |
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not just that but also carriers, LHDs, MRVs, and super carriers. |
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