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DND to monitor No. Korea rocket launch
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horizon	Apr 7 2012, 07:30 PM Post #81
Member Posts: 438 Group: Regulars Member #5,945 Joined: June 24, 2010	israeli Apr 7 2012, 04:38 PM North Korea warns other nations: intercept of rocket is an act of war 06-Apr-12, 10:05 PM \| PNA/Yonhap More of the article here. now that nokorea has so clearly stated that destroying its rocket is an act of war, its very likely that despite the bluster of japan, so. korea & taiwan, not one of them will ever shoot down the rocket. no one can afford a war with north korea, even the us.



TonyStark2020	Apr 8 2012, 05:47 AM Post #82
Member Posts: 319 Group: Regulars Member #5,897 Joined: May 2, 2010	Eh KUPAL talaga itong biik na Kim na ito! What if a big part of the debris where projected to fall directly in a heavy populated area in North Luzon??? Isn't that more deserving to be called/ seen as an "Act of War" and "Terrorism," just because of a mad ambitious experiment, disregarding the safety of other Nations?!! Someone should really teach them a lesson just once and for the last time.. This is the only way to deal and finish off a "Bully" like NK, but the big Q is who will??? The NK only have no more than at least 8 warheads and by this time the US and SK already did some mapping to pinpoint exact locations and whereabouts of these warheads, only time will tell when will their time be up and patience of the World runs out.. The World Countries don't get anything beneficial from NK anyway, only China uses them as their reserved dog pawns, the World will be much better off without them and will be free from living in FEAR. A clear message; Quote: "You can continue down the road you are on, but we know where that leads," Obama said. "It leads to more of the same -- more broken dreams, more isolation, ever more distance between the people of North Korea and the dignity and opportunity they deserve." The president ended his speech by predicting that Koreans, North and South, will someday be "united and free." "The day all Koreans yearn for will not come easily or without great sacrifice. But make no mistake, it will come. And when it does, change will unfold that once seemed impossible," he said. -US Pres. Obama
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superman	Apr 8 2012, 07:51 AM Post #83
Member Posts: 287 Group: Regulars Member #2,189 Joined: February 13, 2007	I believed this young Kim is not really the brains behind all this he is merely a puppet NK is a military state and he is just a figure they represent, NK is desperate for attention and what it became is a failed ideology that is so difficult for them to accept and South is successful in it's path by clinging to democracy. It's leaders is so pathetic that they sacrifice the future of their nation and their people they invested heavily in it's military but thousands of it's citizens is suffering from hunger. Until now Cuba & NK is the only communist country that is faithful to it's ideology but it failed miserably "Change is the only constant things in this world".



Parastriker	Apr 8 2012, 01:56 PM Post #84
Member Posts: 1,496 Group: Regulars Member #7,454 Joined: March 27, 2012	israeli Apr 7 2012, 04:38 PM North Korea warns other nations: intercept of rocket is an act of war 06-Apr-12, 10:05 PM \| PNA/Yonhap SEOUL - North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has ratcheted up his regime's militaristic rhetoric as Pyongyang threatened to retaliate against any country that intercepts a North Korean rocket booster or collects the rocket debris. <snipped> The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea in Pyongyang warned that interception of the satellite would be "an act of war" and would cause a tremendous catastrophe. Whoever "intercepts the satellite or collects its debris will meet immediate, resolute and merciless punishment" from the North, the committee said in an English-language statement carried by its Korean Central News Agency late Thursday. The warning came days after South Korea said it was exploring measures to intercept the rocket booster in case it veers off its trajectory. Japan has also ordered its troops to shoot down the rocket if there is concern it or parts of it could land on Japan. South Korea expects the rocket's first-stage booster to land in international waters, some 170 kilometers south of its southwestern city of Gunsan, before the rocket's second stage booster falls east of the Philippines. <snipped> The statement also warned South Korea against any provocation, noting any attack by Seoul on Pyongyang would mean the "end of everything in South Korea." <snipped> North Korea "will mete out the unimaginable and the most miserable punishment to its rival if it dares fire into the sky above the (North), Pyongyang, in particular," the statement said. The North's threat came after South Korea vowed it would attack the North's capital in retaliation if the communist country strikes Seoul. <snipped> Meanwhile, North Korean leader Kim has also ordered his troops to bury the nation's enemies at sea if they "dare intrude into the territorial waters" of the North. Kim made the comment during his inspection trip to a navy unit that seized a U.S. spy ship, Pueblo, in 1968, the KCNA said in a dispatch on Friday. <snipped> Kim "set forth the tasks for rounding off combat preparations and bolstering the combat capability," the dispatch said. More of the article here. <rant> Hmm. Terrifying words, Kim Jong-Un. But do you have the power to back them up? Let us see the options of that leader if the missile is shot down from the sky; NUCLEAR RETALIATION: Impossible. Patriot missiles in SoKor and Japan will shoot them down, and America have a trigger-happy finger when it comes to Nukes. NAVAL RETALIATION: Far-off. NoKor submarines from their east coast couldn't even reach their west coast without provisioning. AERIAL RETALIATION: Impossible. SoKor has the better air force. So, what " tremendous catastrophe" would happen then? Don't tell me that you have missile submarines, Kim Jong-Un? </rant>
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KFIR	Apr 8 2012, 02:41 PM Post #85
Member Posts: 2,416 Group: Regulars Member #5,929 Joined: June 7, 2010	Parastriker Apr 8 2012, 01:56 PM israeli Apr 7 2012, 04:38 PM North Korea warns other nations: intercept of rocket is an act of war 06-Apr-12, 10:05 PM \| PNA/Yonhap SEOUL - North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has ratcheted up his regime's militaristic rhetoric as Pyongyang threatened to retaliate against any country that intercepts a North Korean rocket booster or collects the rocket debris. <snipped> The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea in Pyongyang warned that interception of the satellite would be "an act of war" and would cause a tremendous catastrophe. Whoever "intercepts the satellite or collects its debris will meet immediate, resolute and merciless punishment" from the North, the committee said in an English-language statement carried by its Korean Central News Agency late Thursday. The warning came days after South Korea said it was exploring measures to intercept the rocket booster in case it veers off its trajectory. Japan has also ordered its troops to shoot down the rocket if there is concern it or parts of it could land on Japan. South Korea expects the rocket's first-stage booster to land in international waters, some 170 kilometers south of its southwestern city of Gunsan, before the rocket's second stage booster falls east of the Philippines. <snipped> The statement also warned South Korea against any provocation, noting any attack by Seoul on Pyongyang would mean the "end of everything in South Korea." <snipped> North Korea "will mete out the unimaginable and the most miserable punishment to its rival if it dares fire into the sky above the (North), Pyongyang, in particular," the statement said. The North's threat came after South Korea vowed it would attack the North's capital in retaliation if the communist country strikes Seoul. <snipped> Meanwhile, North Korean leader Kim has also ordered his troops to bury the nation's enemies at sea if they "dare intrude into the territorial waters" of the North. Kim made the comment during his inspection trip to a navy unit that seized a U.S. spy ship, Pueblo, in 1968, the KCNA said in a dispatch on Friday. <snipped> Kim "set forth the tasks for rounding off combat preparations and bolstering the combat capability," the dispatch said. More of the article here. <rant> Hmm. Terrifying words, Kim Jong-Un. But do you have the power to back them up? Let us see the options of that leader if the missile is shot down from the sky; NUCLEAR RETALIATION: Impossible. Patriot missiles in SoKor and Japan will shoot them down, and America have a trigger-happy finger when it comes to Nukes. NAVAL RETALIATION: Far-off. NoKor submarines from their east coast couldn't even reach their west coast without provisioning. AERIAL RETALIATION: Impossible. SoKor has the better air force. So, what " tremendous catastrophe" would happen then? Don't tell me that you have missile submarines, Kim Jong-Un? </rant> What is the success rate of the Patriot missile system? Quote: Excuse me if I withhold judgment for the moment on the reported successes of the Patriot missile. The new version of the air-defense weapon, known as the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (or PAC-3) is said to have intercepted four of the six missiles that Iraq has fired at Kuwait. This is an impressive record, if true. But I remember that, shortly after Operation Desert Storm, the first war against Iraq in 1991, the U.S. Army claimed that an earlier model of the Patriot had intercepted 45 out of 47 Iraqi Scuds�a 95 percent success rate. Over the following year, the Army lowered its estimate, stating that Patriots intercepted 79 percent of the Scuds launched over Saudi Arabia and 40 percent of those fired at Israel. These remain the official figures today. However, even the revisions wildly overstate the Patriot's performance in Desert Storm. A later report by the General Accounting Office concluded that Patriot missiles destroyed only 9 percent of the Scuds they tried to engage. The Israeli Defense Force calculated they'd destroyed just 2 percent. William Cohen, Bill Clinton's secretary of defense, admitted upon leaving office in January 2001, "The Patriot didn't work." http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_pol...riot_games.html



spearhead	Apr 8 2012, 10:15 PM Post #86
DoctorNO, Your Neutral Observer. Posts: 6,903 Group: Regulars Member #655 Joined: February 14, 2006	North Korea planning third nuclear test � report April 8, 2012 4:28pm http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/25422...st-mdash-report SEOUL - North Korea, pressing ahead with a rocket launch in defiance of a UN resolution, is also preparing a third nuclear weapons test, South Korean news reports said on Sunday, a move bound to scare neighbors and infuriate the West. South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted an unidentified intelligence source as saying North Korea was "clandestinely preparing a nuclear test" at the same location as the first two. The source added that workers in the destitute North had been seen in commercial satellite images digging a tunnel in the northeastern town of Punggye-ri, Kilju County, in addition to existing mines believed to have been used for tests in 2006 and 2009. "We have confirmed the (mining) work is coming to its final stage," the source was quoted as saying. The satellite imagery showed piles of earth and sand at the entrance of the tunnel, Yonhap said. North Korea, which three years ago pulled out of six-party disarmament talks on its nuclear program, agreed in February to stop nuclear tests, uranium enrichment and long-range missile launches in return for food aid, opening the way to a possible resumption of the negotiations. But that has all since unraveled with the North's rocket launch planned for this month, probably between Thursday and the following Monday. The North says it is merely sending a weather satellite into space, but South Korea and the United States say it is a ballistic missile test. Read more.
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Ayoshi	Apr 9 2012, 01:22 PM Post #87
Posts: 4,978 Group: Elite Member #7,137 Joined: October 22, 2011	Robredo warns public vs touching Nokor rocket debris MANILA, Philippines -- The public has been advised against touching any debris from the North Korea rocket, which will be launched later this week. In a statement Monday, Interior and Local Government Secretary Jesse Robredo advised the public and local officials in Northern Luzon not to touch any rocket debris that may fall in their areas and immediately call their local fire station for assistance. "The debris should be secured without human touch," he said. Local government officials especially in areas of Northern Luzon are also told to take precautionary measures to prevent any injuries or damages from the planned rocket launch of North Korea between April 12 to 16. The regions of 1, 2, 3, 4-A, 5 and the Cordilleras are alerted to prepare for contingencies on the possibility that debris might also fall in their areas. �Considering that the debris of the missile test might fall in Philippine territory, you are hereby directed to take all precautionary measures to prevent loss of lives and property,� said Robredo in his directive. In an inter-agency meeting last April 3, the National Disaster Risk and Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) identified the seven regions as vulnerable areas, being in the projected path of the missile, and with high vulnerability on the eastern seaboard. Robredo urged the officials in these regions to put on alert their local disaster councils and to strictly implement the no-fishing and no-cruising directives. He also said that the Philippine Nuclear Research Institute of the Department of Science and Technology has already prepared its equipment and personnel to assist local government units that may be affected by falling debris. SOURCE



icefrog	Apr 9 2012, 03:32 PM Post #88
Posts: 6,518 Group: Elite Member #6,941 Joined: July 20, 2011	N.Korea readies longer range rocket; Japan, S.Korea wary CHOLSAN, North Korea/SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea has readied a rocket for a launch from a forested valley in its remote northwest this week that will showcase the reclusive state's ability to fire a missile with the capacity to hit the continental United States. Pyongyang says the rocket, to be launched this week, will only carry a weather satellite, but South Korea and the United States say it is a test of a ballistic missile. And although the risk of it veering off course is low, guidance remains its weakest point. In a rare move, reporters were taken to the new Sohae launch station, close to the border with China, where work was in progress to ready the 30-metre high Unha-3 rocket and its satellite. The three-stage rocket was on the launch platform, indicating the launch will go ahead on plan between April 12-16. "Supreme Commander Kim Jong-un made a very bold decision, that is why you are allowed to be this close to the launch site," site director Jang Myong Jin told visiting foreign journalists on Sunday. North Korea announced plans to launch the satellite-bearing rocket to coincide with the 100th birthday celebrations of its founder, Kim Il-sung, a move that will help cement the prestige of his grandson Kim Jong-un, who took power in December. The second stage booster is planned to separate in the seas to the west of the Philippines, about 3,000 km (1,860 miles) from the launch site, and experts say that represents the first possible landfall for the rocket if things go wrong. If North Korea does achieve a successful separation of the third stage - something it says it achieved in 2009, but most experts say failed to put a previous satellite into orbit - that would show it had improved its technology and the capacity to produce a missile that could carry an intercontinental nuclear warhead. Pyongyang has also shifted its launch site, and the new, more sophisticated site on the west of the Korean peninsula reduces the risk of debris falling on Japan, which was overflown in a previous test-launch of a missile. This launch will take the rocket down the west coast of the Korean peninsula. Japan, which fears a repeat of a 2009 firing over its territory, has put its missile batteries on alert to shoot the rocket down. "They have come pretty far on the question of range, but they still need a lot to resolve in the precision technology needed for (warhead) re-entry and guidance," a South Korean military official who spoke on condition of anonymity said. The Unha-3 is likely the same three-stage liquid-fueled ballistic missile the North fired in 2009 over Japan which eventually splashed down after a 3,800 km flight, military experts in South Korea said. The new rocket is believed to have a design range of more than 6,700 km (4,160 miles), and can carry a payload of up to 1,000 kg. At its closest point, Alaska in the United States is about 5,000 km from North Korea. The launch will be the first at the Sohae rocket station, construction of which began in 2007. It is a large, sophisticated facility with specialised assembly and transport, according to analysis from military specialist consultancy IHS Jane's Defense Weekly. http://ph.news.yahoo.com/north-korea-readi...-023307592.html
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Ayoshi	Apr 9 2012, 05:05 PM Post #89
Posts: 4,978 Group: Elite Member #7,137 Joined: October 22, 2011	PAL's US, Japan flights will be rerouted to avoid North Korean rocket launch Starting Thursday, nine international Philippine Airlines (PAL) flights will use alternative flight paths after the government established no-fly zones over certain areas in Luzon to avoid a missile expected to be launched by North Korea from April 12 to 16. Rerouted flights include the following: * PR105 San Francisco via Guam to Manila; * PR103 Los Angeles via Guam-Manila; * PR 107 Vancouver via Los Angeles to Manila; * PR 431 Narita, Japan to Manila; * PR407 Kansai to Manila: * PR437 Nagoya, Japan to Manila: * PR467 Inheon South Korea to Manila, * PR434 Cebu to Narita, * PR111 Guam to Manila; and * PR 426 Manila to Fukuoka. CONTINUE READING >>>



Tsukiyomi	Apr 9 2012, 10:21 PM Post #90
Member Posts: 464 Group: Regulars Member #6,124 Joined: December 14, 2010	Kim The younger has no real power other than the family name. It is a group of elites that are controlling his strings at the moment. All current efforts are designed at demonstrating to the west that NK is still strong and coherent as a "government". As far as the satellite launch, the UN should send a neutral delegation to confirm the rocket is indeed launching a satellite. If it is not a real functioning satellite then they should shoot the damn thing down but they better not miss nor cause the debris to fall on a populated area. If it is a satellite then let the rocket fly as a "gesture of good will". Then set it up so some space debris jacks their satellite. If their rocket does in fact cause debris (and they had not shot it down) to land on the Philippines or other nation, whatever nation was affected can play victim and then there will be a clear mandate to show that the NK's are irresponsible and a punitive actions can be ramped up. I still think an option that needs to be tried is to meet "The Younger" and some of the guys manipulating him in China and cut a deal. Everybody likes money and security. Come to a deal and part of that would be to hail the NK leadership. The trick would be to keep the NK citizenry from flooding across the border to the South and destabilizing them. The second trick will be to keep the border to the North with China stable and prevent population flows and keep the chicoms from getting twitchy. The final of the main concerns will be to prevent a hemorrhage of weaponry and tech out of NK to other countries such as Burma, Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Pakistan and African despots. Whatever happens I will be on an unnamed beach along the WPS watching the fireworks and drinking a beverage with a colorful umbrella in it.



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