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| PN to acquire Maestrale & Soldati warships from Italy? | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 8 2012, 10:56 AM (114,816 Views) | |
| seWer Rat | Feb 8 2012, 10:56 AM Post #1 |
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http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/2...in-the-worksdnd "DEFENSE Secretary Voltaire Gazmin on Tuesday said that government-to-government contracts for the acquisition of jet fighters, an anti-submarine ship, a destroyer" "Targeted for acquisition include the Maestrale and Soldati class deep patrol water vessels..." So, gentlemen, let's start the discussion rolling. |
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| Ascendancy | Feb 8 2012, 11:29 AM Post #2 |
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the Penoy administration is a big joke!!  the soldati destroyer is world war 2 vintage italian destroyer built 1943 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldati_class_destroyer the maestrale is even more older, built in 1934!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestrale_class_destroyer even older than the rajah humabon, what a disgrace this country is hopeless kung ganito kabobo ang administrasyon ngayon |
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| icefrog | Feb 8 2012, 11:40 AM Post #3 |
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Maestrale class frigates The Maestrale class frigates were built by Fincantieri for the Italian Navy (Marina Militare). A fleet of eight frigates is currently in service with the Italian Navy. These frigates are expected to be replaced by the FREMM multi-purpose frigates by 2013. FREMM is designed by DCNS / Armaris and Fincantieri. The Maestrale class frigates are primarily equipped for anti-submarine warfare (ASW). However, they also possess anti-aircraft warfare (AAW) and anti-surface warfare (ASuW) capabilities. They were deployed in various international missions and in the normal operations of the Italian Navy. The first ship in the class, Maestrale (F570), was launched in February 1981 and commissioned in March 1982. Four frigates were commissioned in 1983 and the rest of the fleet was commissioned by May 1985. http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/m...aleclassfrigat/ P.S. Wag masyado dependent sa wikipedia. |
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| AVBsupersonic | Feb 8 2012, 11:44 AM Post #4 |
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Maestrale and Soldati class are both classified as Frigates not destroyers... Maestrale class in service (1982) INavy were getting is an anti submarine warfare Frigate while the Soldati class (Lupo class) (1977) INavy is a guided missile Frigate, the other Maestrale class Destroyer was an old 1930's WW-II destroyer warship. |
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| alexpz | Feb 8 2012, 11:45 AM Post #5 |
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Are you sure that those are the one's the government is buying? Can you show us some documents that will back up your allegations? Kung mag salita ka parang ikaw na yata ang pinaka matalino. |
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| Ascendancy | Feb 8 2012, 11:53 AM Post #6 |
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The Soldati class (also known as Camicia Nera class) were a group of destroyers built for the Italian Navy during World War II. The ships were named after military professions (Artigliere, for example, meaning "artilleryman"). There were two batches; twelve ships were built in 1938-39, and a second batch of seven ships were ordered in 1942, although only five were completed. Ten ships of the class were lost during the war. Of the survivors three were transferred to the French Navy and two to the Soviet Navy as war reparations, while two served in the Italian post-war navy, the Marina Militare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldati_class_destroyer Batch 1 Alpino - named after the Alpini military corps Built by CNR Ancona, completed 20 April 1939, Lost 19 April 1943 when it was bombed by the US Air Force in La Spezia Harbour. Artigliere - ("Gunner") Built by OTO Livorno, completed 14 November 1938 Lost 13 October 1940, sunk by HMS York after being damaged at the Battle of Cape Passero the previous day.[1] Ascari, named for the Italian term for a locally conscripted soldier of a colony - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 6 May 1939, Took part of the successful attack on Harpoon convoy in June 1942, lost on 24 March 1943 after hitting a mine. Aviere ("airmen") - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 31 August 1938, Lost on 17 December 1942; Sunk by the British submarine HMS Splendid (P228) Bersagliere - named after the Bersaglieri - Built by CNR Palermo, completed on 1 April 1939, Lost on 7 January 1943 after being bombed in Palermo harbour. Camicia Nera ("blackshirt"), renamed Artigliere after the fall of the Fascist regime in 1943 - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 30 June 1938 Survived the war, given to the Soviet Navy as war reparations, served in the Black Sea as the Lovkiy (Ловкий), decommissioned in 1960. Carabiniere - named after the Carabinieri Built by CT Riva Trigoso, completed on 20 December 1938. She survived the war and served in the post war Italian Navy (Marina Militare), being decommissioned on 18 January 1965. Corazziere ("cuirassier") - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 4 March 1939, Scuttled during the Italian Armistice of 9 September 1943. Fuciliere' ("Fusilier") - Built by CNR Ancona completed 10 January 1939, Survived the war, given to the Soviet Navy as war reparations, served in the Black Sea Fleet as the Liogkiy (Лёгкий), decommissioned in 1960. Geniere ("Engineer") - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 14 December 1938. She was lost on 1 March 1943 when it was bombed by USAAF in Palermo Harbour. Granatiere ("grenadier") - Built by CNR Palermo, completed on 1 February 1939, Survived the war and served in the post war Italian Navy (Marina Militare), being decommissioned on 1 July 1958. Lanciere ("lancer") - Built by CT Riva Trigoso, completed 25 March 1939, Lost in a storm on 23 March 1942 following the Second Battle of Sirte, with five survivors in the crew. [edit] Batch 2 Bombardiere ("bomber") - Built by CNR Ancona, completed 15 July 1942. Sunk on 17 January 1943 by British submarine United. Carrista ("tank crew") - Built by OTO Livorno, not completed, cancelled 1941. Corsaro ("corsair") - Built by OTO Livorno, completed on 16 May 1942, Sunk by mines of 9 January 1943. Legionario ("legionnaire") - Built by OTO Livorno, completed 1 March 1942, Survived the war, transferred to the French Navy as a war reparation served as the Duchaffault until June 1954. Mitragliere ("machine gunner") - Built by CNR Ancona, completed 1 February 1942, Survived the war, transferred to the French Navy as a war reparation, served as the Jurien de la Graviere until June 1954. Squadrista ("Fascist squad man") - Built by OTO Livorno, not completed. Velite ("Veles")- Built by OTO Livorno, completed on 31 August 1942, Survived the war, transferred to the French Navy as a war reparation, served as the Duperre until June 1954. ----------------- meron ba soldati na bago? go check yourselves
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| Ascendancy | Feb 8 2012, 11:57 AM Post #7 |
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article says destroyer not frigates, frigates are small compared to destroyers so the world war 2 maestrale destroyer is the obvious choice of penoy admin  mas malaki pera kasi sa pagparemodel
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| dewey | Feb 8 2012, 12:03 PM Post #8 |
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tay, you are barking at the wrong tree. bago pa sa pf 15 and maestrale at soldati. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maestrale_class_frigate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupo_class_fr...ass_patrol_boat look at my sig, thats the maestrale. does that look like a ww2 vet ship? 
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eto na lg pala, kahit 1 lg muna
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| AVBsupersonic | Feb 8 2012, 12:04 PM Post #9 |
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Misinfo na naman sa classification or lack of research ng Media or Govt. Officials are to blame for this.. It's really a crazy idea if they plan to acquire a 1930's vintage WW2 Destroyer??? |
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| crazycharlie | Feb 8 2012, 12:04 PM Post #10 |
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masyado ka dumedepende sa wiki at kung magsalita ka parang kasama ka sa assesment eam ng DND wake up bro. |
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