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Small fast boats with missiles; fast boats
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Topic Started: Dec 31 2011, 10:09 PM (4,970 Views)
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dewey
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Jan 3 2012, 12:26 PM
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a small fast missile will be ideal patrolling with the whecs :thumb:
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Jan 3 2012, 11:03 PM
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- dewey
- Jan 3 2012, 12:26 PM
a small fast missile will be ideal patrolling with the whecs :thumb:
The thing is this: small missile fast-attack crafts are ideal for an archipelagic nation like the Philippines: the smaller the vessel, the more money we can save for it. We do not need numerous big surface warships, but only a few of those, whilst we can have multiple smaller or medium-sized surface warships that can deliver missiles. That way we can save more money and have more hardware. It is needless to say that the loss of a smaller vessel is also less compared to a bigger one - also in terms of human life (there are more sailors on bigger ships than on smaller ones - conventionally speaking at least).
Pakistani indigenous missile boat:

Iranian missile boat

Vietnamese made (Russia design):
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dewey
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Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
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imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb:
as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
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Jan 3 2012, 11:33 PM
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- Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
You have a good point with the tides: but smaller vessels are not used for patrolling the open seas anyways. They can be used for the archipelago.
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Jan 3 2012, 11:35 PM
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- dewey
- Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
That is the very reason why the government chose the WHEC because it is suitable for high seas patrol unlike a small vessel where it is only good within inland seas.
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Jan 4 2012, 12:00 AM
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- Jan 3 2012, 11:35 PM
- dewey
- Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
That is the very reason why the government chose the WHEC because it is suitable for high seas patrol unlike a small vessel where it is only good within inland seas.
good point.. which means it will be not a bad idea to have both. the WHECs for longer distance patrols while the missile boats for shoreline patrol within the archipelago. so if the enemy was able to avoid the WHECs and penetrated futher in close to the shores then they can be challenged by the missile boats as a second layer of protection and the third layer will be the land based missiles etc. just as I said a combination of all ideas and strategies.
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Jan 4 2012, 06:10 AM
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- dewey
- Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
I agree with your thoughts that it comes in tandem. 1 WHEC and 1 Missile Patrol Craft to patrol the WPS. It would not hurt the budget if we can acquire 3 for a start... if we only have the political will.
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Jan 4 2012, 08:47 AM
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- Hitman
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- dewey
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imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
That is the very reason why the government chose the WHEC because it is suitable for high seas patrol unlike a small vessel where it is only good within inland seas.
good point.. which means it will be not a bad idea to have both. the WHECs for longer distance patrols while the missile boats for shoreline patrol within the archipelago. so if the enemy was able to avoid the WHECs and penetrated futher in close to the shores then they can be challenged by the missile boats as a second layer of protection and the third layer will be the land based missiles etc. just as I said a combination of all ideas and strategies.
Those smaller missile boats are really designed for the last line of naval defence if there is such a thing together with diesel subs and other gunboats.
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Jan 4 2012, 09:49 AM
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- spearhead
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- Hitman
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- dewey
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imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
That is the very reason why the government chose the WHEC because it is suitable for high seas patrol unlike a small vessel where it is only good within inland seas.
good point.. which means it will be not a bad idea to have both. the WHECs for longer distance patrols while the missile boats for shoreline patrol within the archipelago. so if the enemy was able to avoid the WHECs and penetrated futher in close to the shores then they can be challenged by the missile boats as a second layer of protection and the third layer will be the land based missiles etc. just as I said a combination of all ideas and strategies.
Those smaller missile boats are really designed for the last line of naval defence if there is such a thing together with diesel subs and other gunboats.
sana nagbabasa din si Pnoy ng mga thread natin dito para naman nalalaman nya na in dire need ng PN ang ganitong kagamitan. Not to mention a modest upgrade for our PAF.
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Feb 4 2012, 05:12 PM
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- astro_boy2005
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- spearhead
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- Hitman
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- TagaLaguna
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- dewey
- Jan 3 2012, 11:21 PM
imho, those missile boats will only be patrolling the wps, at least till when it will be considered, together with the whecs. and as for the numerous whecs, if we are to acquire more, i doubt it will be for wps only. maybe 3 whecs and 3 missile boats for wps patrol duty, on a rotation basis will be enough. adding asw capability to the whecs should also be considered, not just by adding an asw chopper, but to the boat itself. :thumb: as for letting a small missile boat patrol the wps alone, kawawa naman ang matoka dito. considering high sea states in the area sometimes, i doubt the boat will last long. as for the sailors . . .
That is the very reason why the government chose the WHEC because it is suitable for high seas patrol unlike a small vessel where it is only good within inland seas.
good point.. which means it will be not a bad idea to have both. the WHECs for longer distance patrols while the missile boats for shoreline patrol within the archipelago. so if the enemy was able to avoid the WHECs and penetrated futher in close to the shores then they can be challenged by the missile boats as a second layer of protection and the third layer will be the land based missiles etc. just as I said a combination of all ideas and strategies.
Those smaller missile boats are really designed for the last line of naval defence if there is such a thing together with diesel subs and other gunboats.
sana nagbabasa din si Pnoy ng mga thread natin dito para naman nalalaman nya na in dire need ng PN ang ganitong kagamitan. Not to mention a modest upgrade for our PAF.
Buhay pa ba yung official Facebook page nya?
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