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| Hitman | Dec 31 2011, 10:09 PM Post #1 |
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![]() this will be a good addition to the PN fast attack boats armed with missiles and surface to air missiles. this are cheaper and PN can buy dozens of this. this are also good for anti piracy and patrols in WPS. This are made in Iran but maybe we can buy one and make it as a template with some modifications. Iran to test-fire missiles in strategic oil waterway 1 Star2 Stars3 Stars4 Stars5 Stars (3 votes, average: 5.00 out of 5) By Agence France-Presse on Friday, December 30th, 2011 Tehran said it will test-fire missiles in the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, a move likely to stoke tensions with Washington already running high over Iran’s threats to close the strategic oil waterway if sanctions are enforced. “Shorter- and longer-range, ground-to-sea, surface-to-surface and surface-to-air missiles will be tested on Saturday,” the ISNA news agency quoted Iran’s navy spokesman, Commodore Mahmoud Mousavi, as saying on Friday. Iran, which has been carrying out war games in the Strait of Hormuz over the past week, has said that “not a drop of oil” would pass through the strait if Western governments follow through with planned additional sanctions over its nuclear programme. The US State Department said on Thursday that Iran’s threat to close the waterway, through which more than a third of the world’s tanker-borne oil passes, exhibited “irrational behavior” and “will not be tolerated.” http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff470/GHQ69/fastboat.jpg The naval manoeuvres launched by Iran in the strait on December 24 have so far included mine-laying and the use of aerial drones, according to Iranian media. Analysts and oil market traders have been watching developments in and around the Strait of Hormuz carefully, fearing that the intensifying war of words between arch foes Tehran and Washington could spark open confrontation. With tensions over the straight simmering, Iran-rival Saudi Arabi announced that it had signed a deal to buy 84 new US fighter jets in order maximise defence capabilities in the oil-rich kingdom. On Thursday, the US said the $30 billion (23 billion euro) deal sent a “strong message” to the Gulf region, where Riyadh has voiced concerns about Tehran’s efforts to boost its influence. In addition to buying the new aircraft, Saudi Arabia will be able to modernize 70 existing planes while procuring munitions, spare parts, training and maintenance contracts, US officials said. Two US warships had entered a zone where Iran was conducting its war games, but a US naval spokeswoman said the ships were travelling as part of a pre-planned, routine operation and were not deployed as a show of strength. “Our interaction with the regular Iranian Navy continues to be within the standards of maritime practice, well-known, routine and professional,” Fifth Fleet spokeswoman Lieutenant Rebecca Rebarich said on Thursday. Iran has dismissed all US threats regarding potential consequences over the strait’s closure. Brigadier General Hossein Salami, the deputy commander of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards, told the Fars news agency on Thursday that Tehran has “no doubt about our being able to carry out defensive strategies to protect our vital interests.””The Americans are not qualified to give us permission” to carry out military strategy, he was quoted as saying. Iran’s navy chief, Admiral Habibollah Sayari, backed that up by saying it would be “really easy” to close the strait. |
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| spearhead | Dec 31 2011, 10:21 PM Post #2 |
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There were plans before by PN to acquire Fast Attack Crafts or FAC but i dont know what happened to it. And previously a number of PDFFers have suggested to install some anti-ship missiles and shoulder-fired missiles to our various PN vessels including those smaller ones like the Cyclone class patrol craft and the Jacinto class corvettes. I fully agree though if the government can also purchase some of this missile boats or some FAC immediately for the WPS. |
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| Hitman | Dec 31 2011, 10:37 PM Post #3 |
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if the PN have a few dozens of these Fast Attack Crafts with missiles plus 3 mid size subs then that is more affordable to get to almost 40% external defense ready. And if the squadron of F16s come in then the AFP is going to be 60% ready in external defense, then just continue with the modernization with transparency until 100% is reached. |
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| spearhead | Dec 31 2011, 10:58 PM Post #4 |
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With the recent news of planned acquisitions of land-based mobile missile platform will make it to 80% plus missile-armed ASW maritime patrol aircrafts will make it closer to 100%. :thumb: |
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| astro_boy2005 | Jan 1 2012, 06:05 PM Post #5 |
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Is this merely a planning stage or have we ever allotted a budget for these projects? |
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| spearhead | Jan 2 2012, 02:09 AM Post #6 |
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Sadly still in a planning stage. They do that every time the administration changed. New people, new plannings again and again. |
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| Hitman | Jan 2 2012, 02:46 AM Post #7 |
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thats right, too much red tape and bureaucracy as usual. thats why we need Bong Marcos. lol. he is the man. |
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| spearhead | Jan 2 2012, 08:46 AM Post #8 |
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How about these FAC from singapore if the PN can get similar ships? ![]() Length: 44.9m <==> Breadth: 7.0m <==> Depth: 4.0m <==> Draft: 2.5m Displacement 275 tons <==> Speed: 40kts <==> Range: 1800nms @ 15kts Crew: up to 41 Armnaments: 76mm Gun, 40mm Gun/2 X Mistral Missiles. 4 X Harpoon, 2 X 0.5in HMG, EW Suite Cost: 30 Million With an EW Suite, able to combat and deter enemy naval crafts whilst taking advantage of it's small size to launch surprise attacks. ![]() Length: 55.0m <==> Breadth: 8.6m <==> Draft: 2.6m Displacement 500 tons <==> Speed: 36kts <==> Range: 1800nms @ 20kts Crew: 30 Armnaments: 76mm Gun, 8 X VLS SAM, 6X AShM OR 6 X Torpedo, 2 X 0.5in HMG, EW Suite Cost: 40 Million Equipped to deal with short range threats effectively. Excellent surveillance. ![]() Length: 62.4m <==> Breadth: 8.5m <==> Draft: 3.1m Displacement 600 tons <==> Speed: 35kts <==> Range: 2000nms @ 20kts Crew: About 46 Armnaments: 76mm Gun, 16 X VLS SAM, 8 X AShM, 6 X Torpedo, 2 X 0.5in HMG, EW Suite Cost: 70 Million. Able to deal with all three levels of naval threats while disrupting the opponents ability to unleashed offensive options via EW. |
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| Hitman | Jan 2 2012, 08:14 PM Post #9 |
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thats fine, but if they always complain about money. then the best way for the PN to acquire these Fast Attack seacrafts will be to build one locally, Im sure there are many local companies that can make these. Or even the PN have the capability to build one, make it simple and then install all the hi tech equipment radars, sonars, and weapon systems like the ship to ship missiles and small SAMs and even torpedos then we have an agile very fast elusive FACs that can be menacing to larger ships from China. our military planners should think outside the box. there are many ways to acquire modern equipment and assets with limited budget piece by piece. they all have to combine these ideas and creativity together. |
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| InkognitoAce | Jan 3 2012, 01:28 AM Post #10 |
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It's an old idea including the possibility of a type of joint-venture: local shipyards build the superstructure while a foreign company provides the military soft- and hardware. Iran is showing the world how it is done - the Scandinavian countries as well with their corvettes and FACs. |
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